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Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:27 pm
by zeebneeb
https://pistonpowered.com/2022/12/16/pistons-news-isaiah-stewart-3-point/

"Isaiah Stewart is putting up the best overall numbers of his career, averaging 12 points, 8.7 rebounds and 1.2 assists. But it’s his shooting numbers that are really impressive, as he is knocking down 37.5 percent from 3-point range on 4.2 attempts per game."

"He’s been even more impressive over his last 20 games, when he is hitting 40.2 percent of his 3-point shots, numbers that would put him 8th among all power forwards. And when you look at the list of 3-point shooting power forwards, Stewart is taking more attempts than all but four of them, and none of those four provide the type of defense that he does on the other end."

If Beef does indeed continue to do this, he is absolutely the answer at the 4 spot. 21 years old.

Shout-out to Cowology for the best prediction of the season.

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:38 pm
by bstein14
zeebneeb wrote:https://pistonpowered.com/2022/12/16/pistons-news-isaiah-stewart-3-point/

"Isaiah Stewart is putting up the best overall numbers of his career, averaging 12 points, 8.7 rebounds and 1.2 assists. But it’s his shooting numbers that are really impressive, as he is knocking down 37.5 percent from 3-point range on 4.2 attempts per game."

"He’s been even more impressive over his last 20 games, when he is hitting 40.2 percent of his 3-point shots, numbers that would put him 8th among all power forwards. And when you look at the list of 3-point shooting power forwards, Stewart is taking more attempts than all but four of them, and none of those four provide the type of defense that he does on the other end."

If Beef does indeed continue to do this, he is absolutely the answer at the 4 spot. 21 years old.

Shout-out to Cowology for the best prediction of the season.



40% from deep on 5 attempts per game (2-5) really opens up the offense and keeps a big defender having to stick with Stew. I actually thought he'd be mostly pick and pop but he's been just standing in the corner at times and spacing the floor while Duren sets the screen up top and he's been making the defense pay for sagging off him. It does still feel like he gets a lot of open looks... not sure if that's a result of our offense or lack of defense giving him respect out there up to this point but I'm sure eventually teams will have to stop sagging off him as much and that should open up the penetration/inside game even more.

He actually started this seaosn really struggling from three and also struggling a bit more defensively but I think it was just getting used to the new faces, as well as Bey/Bojan/Ivey/Cade being our 4 worst defenders and all starting with him. He's been much better of late on defense as well playing with Duren and Hayes in the starting lineup with him.

What's really exciting for me to see is when he has been putting the ball on the floor after getting run off the 3 point line he's been fairly good.. It's still a bit of a work in progress (he traveled once a few games ago doing it) but he has shown much more ability in this area than we've seen the last few seasons and it certainly is yet another reason to be excited that he might not just be a "3 and D" PF but potentially has more growth like we saw with Jerami Grant over several NBA seasons.

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:45 pm
by Kalamazoo317
It’d be really exciting if this roster gets to the point (post Bogie) where Cade is the fifth best defender in the starting lineup, especially since I fully expect him to improve a lot on that end still, so that could mean we become a really strong defensive team.

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:24 pm
by ComboGuardCity
Kalamazoo317 wrote:It’d be really exciting if this roster gets to the point (post Bogie) where Cade is the fifth best defender in the starting lineup, especially since I fully expect him to improve a lot on that end still, so that could mean we become a really strong defensive team.

At the very least Cade should be as good a defender as current Booker who was one of the worst defenders in the league his first few years. They have similar physical tools and we just need a good scheme/effort from Cade.

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:54 pm
by DarkXaero
Any chance that yall would be looking to trade Stewart? And if so, what would it look like (in return)?

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:59 pm
by Kalamazoo317
DarkXaero wrote:Any chance that yall would be looking to trade Stewart? And if so, what would it look like (in return)?


No

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:25 pm
by keepitrealhomes
DarkXaero wrote:Any chance that yall would be looking to trade Stewart? And if so, what would it look like (in return)?


“Y’all got any more of them Beef Stews?”

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:29 pm
by zeebneeb
DarkXaero wrote:Any chance that yall would be looking to trade Stewart? And if so, what would it look like (in return)?
Of all the players right now that are close to untradeable, it's Stew. At his position, what he's doing is rare, and he's on a rookie deal.

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:57 pm
by DET_Athletics
I think this is the Bojan effect. Because his machanics have changed up a bit to where he's not being the ball down at all on catch and shots and his shot is looking like Bojan.

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Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:12 pm
by hoophabit
Stewart would have to fetch a very pretty penny, and there's likely no such deal out there. With his passing, driving, and shooting all improving it's hard to envision wanting to move him at this point. Further, he's a great teammate and very coachable. If he keeps going the way he is I'm hoping he sticks around for quite a while.

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:34 pm
by Billl
If he can keep this up, that really opens thing up for him and the team. He's obviously undersized at the 5, so being able to space the floor well enough to play 4 consistently would be huge.

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:57 pm
by DarkXaero
Appreciate the responses, especially the more detailed ones.

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:58 pm
by Kalamazoo317
Plus he’s got that dog in him. He’s the type of hard working, uber competitive guy you want longterm as a culture setter. After that dust up with Lebron last year, I feel like he should be a Piston lifer.

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:53 pm
by zeebneeb
Kalamazoo317 wrote:Plus he’s got that dog in him. He’s the type of hard working, uber competitive guy you want longterm as a culture setter. After that dust up with Lebron last year, I feel like he should be a Piston lifer.
If Stewarts offense becomes as good as his defense, well, he has all-star appearances ahead of him.

The things he was doing in that last game, is everything you want out of a PF. I mean, damn.

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:42 pm
by MotownMadness
I said when we drafted he had potential to shoot the 3 ball. He showed signs of it when i would watch him at Washington.

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:42 pm
by Laimbeer
37.5% on 4.2 per game - he has been really good, more so than I ever thought he would be.

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:43 pm
by Laimbeer
zeebneeb wrote:
Kalamazoo317 wrote:Plus he’s got that dog in him. He’s the type of hard working, uber competitive guy you want longterm as a culture setter. After that dust up with Lebron last year, I feel like he should be a Piston lifer.
If Stewarts offense becomes as good as his defense, well, he has all-star appearances ahead of him.

The things he was doing in that last game, is everything you want out of a PF. I mean, damn.


Myles Turner 2.0 ?

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:18 am
by Cowology
zeebneeb wrote:https://pistonpowered.com/2022/12/16/pistons-news-isaiah-stewart-3-point/

"Isaiah Stewart is putting up the best overall numbers of his career, averaging 12 points, 8.7 rebounds and 1.2 assists. But it’s his shooting numbers that are really impressive, as he is knocking down 37.5 percent from 3-point range on 4.2 attempts per game."

"He’s been even more impressive over his last 20 games, when he is hitting 40.2 percent of his 3-point shots, numbers that would put him 8th among all power forwards. And when you look at the list of 3-point shooting power forwards, Stewart is taking more attempts than all but four of them, and none of those four provide the type of defense that he does on the other end."

If Beef does indeed continue to do this, he is absolutely the answer at the 4 spot. 21 years old.

Shout-out to Cowology for the best prediction of the season.
Originally I had him closer to 15 ppg, but then we traded for Bojan outa the blue. He might still get there later in the season, but the %'s are about what I predicted. I said 38+% on 4-6 3pt attempts per game.

I'd guess he eventually plateaus around 16-18 ppg, but as stretch 4 who hustles and can switch everything defensively. Dude is absolute gold. In 2 years everybody will want a BeefStew. You're not running your offense through him or anything, but he'll be an elite 3rd/4th option.

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:45 am
by tmorgan
Cow’s not the only one. Still my favorite non-Cade Piston, with Duren third.

Re: Stewarts impressive three-point shooting (article)

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2022 9:14 pm
by edmunder_prc
I'm happy but still in wait and see mode.

Seems like Duren/Stewart does work, but the Pistons need a do it all SF like Paul George or something to go with Cade and a SG (maybe a more traditional SG than Ivey).