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With the Pistons loss to the Rockets yesterday, it all but guarantees that the Pistons will indeed have the worst record(yay)and can fall no lower then the #5 pick. This thread is dedicated to going over every selection for each slot, and see if we can all come to a concensus.(fat chance) Place some clips, share your picks, and share new articles!
https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/wizards/2023-nba-mock-draft-60-post-march-madness-edition
https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nba-mock-draft-march-madness-ncaa-tournament-projections
Just a few recent articles to get things moving.
My personal top 5.
#1 Victor Wembanyama
https://youtu.be/aCbgpnEfWKI
#2 Scoot
https://youtu.be/Mpo67i0zwBo
#3 B. Miller
https://youtu.be/31AlpKHUv2c
#4 G. Dick
https://youtu.be/xivOvpgCUhM
#5 C. Whitmore
https://youtu.be/ihUxdMkGU-k
The Pistons need a SF, so 3-5 dedicated to the SF position. I like Gradeys height, and shooting, while Whitmores defense shines through. I would be happy with either at pick #4, or #5.
https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/wizards/2023-nba-mock-draft-60-post-march-madness-edition
https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nba-mock-draft-march-madness-ncaa-tournament-projections
Just a few recent articles to get things moving.
My personal top 5.
#1 Victor Wembanyama
https://youtu.be/aCbgpnEfWKI
#2 Scoot
https://youtu.be/Mpo67i0zwBo
#3 B. Miller
https://youtu.be/31AlpKHUv2c
#4 G. Dick
https://youtu.be/xivOvpgCUhM
#5 C. Whitmore
https://youtu.be/ihUxdMkGU-k
The Pistons need a SF, so 3-5 dedicated to the SF position. I like Gradeys height, and shooting, while Whitmores defense shines through. I would be happy with either at pick #4, or #5.
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Dick at #4 and Whitemore at #5 are risky picks. Trade down and get some assets.
I'd rather take Miller at 2 than Scoot.
I'd rather take Miller at 2 than Scoot.
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I don't know if Dick is going to be good or not in the NBA, but I like his energy and he's got a fun to watch style of play. I'd describe it as wild but not out of control.
Jeff Van Gundy on his brother's Pistons: 'He took over the Titanic and it's sinking even quicker'
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I'm not taking dick over Hendricks, Walker, or the Thompsons.
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Watching tape on Dick is interesting. He is 6'8 has athleticism, and can shoot the hell out of the ball. He is this drafts Franz Wagner.Moses ShamMoses wrote:I don't know if Dick is going to be good or not in the NBA, but I like his energy and he's got a fun to watch style of play. I'd describe it as wild but not out of control.
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None of the guys in the 3-5 spots really feel like franchise changers. We really need a top 2 pick in this one to take that next step forward. Miller and Thompson I think are guys that could end up all-stars but more likely fringe all-star types.... maybe a few time all-stars instead of perennial all-star face of franchise type players. If we end up with anyone but one of those four guys I'd be pretty bummed.
1. VW
2. Scoot
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3. B Miller
4. Amen Thompson
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1 - Wemby
2/3 - Scoot/Miller
Those 3 seem to be locked in. It's possible someone pulls a Scottie Barnes and breaks through but that depends on a load of stuff we're not going to be privy to
From there I believe there's a list of dudes who could go 4 and 5 but again that's based on a lot of stuff we won't know:
The Thompson twins
Anthony Black
Walker, Whitmore, Dick, Hendricks
Of that group Black is the dude we haven't really gone into much if at all. If I find time today I might find some film on him
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2/3 - Scoot/Miller
Those 3 seem to be locked in. It's possible someone pulls a Scottie Barnes and breaks through but that depends on a load of stuff we're not going to be privy to
From there I believe there's a list of dudes who could go 4 and 5 but again that's based on a lot of stuff we won't know:
The Thompson twins
Anthony Black
Walker, Whitmore, Dick, Hendricks
Of that group Black is the dude we haven't really gone into much if at all. If I find time today I might find some film on him
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There is one thing I am certain of is that neither of the Twins can shoot the damn ball, and in this day and age you have to be at minimum a threat of some kind. 25% for Amen, and Asur at 29.8.Pharaoh wrote:1 - Wemby
2/3 - Scoot/Miller
Those 3 seem to be locked in. It's possible someone pulls a Scottie Barnes and breaks through but that depends on a load of stuff we're not going to be privy to
From there I believe there's a list of dudes who could go 4 and 5 but again that's based on a lot of stuff we won't know:
The Thompson twins
Anthony Black
Walker, Whitmore, Dick, Hendricks
Of that group Black is the dude we haven't really gone into much if at all. If I find time today I might find some film on him
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I also don't know much about overtime elite as well. To me, the Twins are a no go.
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No way am I taking Gradey (I can't put Dick in a sentence without laughing) top 5, there's just not much of a ceiling with that kid unless one sees him as a Tyler Herro type and I don't see him having Herro's shot creation ability.
I'm looking for upside in a top 5 pick sprinkled with need (my 3-5 will all be wings) so it's the obvious top 2 then Miller, Walker, a Thompson twin (I think Ausar is the better fit) and Whitmore or Hendricks. I think Miller and Walker have the highest floors of the 2nd tier while the Thompsons and Whitmore might have higher ceilings.
I'm looking for upside in a top 5 pick sprinkled with need (my 3-5 will all be wings) so it's the obvious top 2 then Miller, Walker, a Thompson twin (I think Ausar is the better fit) and Whitmore or Hendricks. I think Miller and Walker have the highest floors of the 2nd tier while the Thompsons and Whitmore might have higher ceilings.
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zeebneeb wrote:Watching tape on Dick is interesting. He is 6'8 has athleticism, and can shoot the hell out of the ball. He is this drafts Franz Wagner.
Wagner is a better playmaker, better defender.
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zeebneeb wrote:There is one thing I am certain of is that neither of the Twins can shoot the damn ball, and in this day and age you have to be at minimum a threat of some kind. 25% for Amen, and Asur at 29.8.Pharaoh wrote:1 - Wemby
2/3 - Scoot/Miller
Those 3 seem to be locked in. It's possible someone pulls a Scottie Barnes and breaks through but that depends on a load of stuff we're not going to be privy to
From there I believe there's a list of dudes who could go 4 and 5 but again that's based on a lot of stuff we won't know:
The Thompson twins
Anthony Black
Walker, Whitmore, Dick, Hendricks
Of that group Black is the dude we haven't really gone into much if at all. If I find time today I might find some film on him
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I also don't know much about overtime elite as well. To me, the Twins are a no go.
Do you take an elite athlete (like Ivey) and work on his shooting... or do you take an elite shooter (like Kennard) and work on the other things to be a good NBA player..... with a high draft pick, I think you take the athleticism, playmaking, etc and work on that shooting..... because that player will just have an all out higher upside if he gets the shot down than what the other type of player can ever become IMO.
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I'd lean the same way too but given what we've seen here for years whatever we're doing to "teach" our kids to shoot just isn't working!bstein14 wrote:zeebneeb wrote:There is one thing I am certain of is that neither of the Twins can shoot the damn ball, and in this day and age you have to be at minimum a threat of some kind. 25% for Amen, and Asur at 29.8.Pharaoh wrote:1 - Wemby
2/3 - Scoot/Miller
Those 3 seem to be locked in. It's possible someone pulls a Scottie Barnes and breaks through but that depends on a load of stuff we're not going to be privy to
From there I believe there's a list of dudes who could go 4 and 5 but again that's based on a lot of stuff we won't know:
The Thompson twins
Anthony Black
Walker, Whitmore, Dick, Hendricks
Of that group Black is the dude we haven't really gone into much if at all. If I find time today I might find some film on him
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I also don't know much about overtime elite as well. To me, the Twins are a no go.
Do you take an elite athlete (like Ivey) and work on his shooting... or do you take an elite shooter (like Kennard) and work on the other things to be a good NBA player..... with a high draft pick, I think you take the athleticism, playmaking, etc and work on that shooting..... because that player will just have an all out higher upside if he gets the shot down than what the other type of player can ever become IMO.
Maybe we need different development coaches?
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The difference here, to me at least, is that Dick is 6'8 215lbs, and can shoot the lights out of the ball, and comes from a known quantity. (Kansas)bstein14 wrote:zeebneeb wrote:There is one thing I am certain of is that neither of the Twins can shoot the damn ball, and in this day and age you have to be at minimum a threat of some kind. 25% for Amen, and Asur at 29.8.Pharaoh wrote:1 - Wemby
2/3 - Scoot/Miller
Those 3 seem to be locked in. It's possible someone pulls a Scottie Barnes and breaks through but that depends on a load of stuff we're not going to be privy to
From there I believe there's a list of dudes who could go 4 and 5 but again that's based on a lot of stuff we won't know:
The Thompson twins
Anthony Black
Walker, Whitmore, Dick, Hendricks
Of that group Black is the dude we haven't really gone into much if at all. If I find time today I might find some film on him
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I also don't know much about overtime elite as well. To me, the Twins are a no go.
Do you take an elite athlete (like Ivey) and work on his shooting... or do you take an elite shooter (like Kennard) and work on the other things to be a good NBA player..... with a high draft pick, I think you take the athleticism, playmaking, etc and work on that shooting..... because that player will just have an all out higher upside if he gets the shot down than what the other type of player can ever become IMO.
There is always a bust in the top 5, and there is always a player that "should have been drafted higher!" Dick looks like that player to me.
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I am not nearly as high on Miller as most people, and it actually has nothing to do with his off-the-court issues.
If you take a look at his numbers, he really struggles against better competition. He’s not an elite athlete — really no better than Dick in that regard — and the NBA is nothing if not higher level competition. Yes, he has better shot creation skills than Dick, and I’d certainly pick Miller before Dick, but I don’t see the large gap others do.
We need luck and VW or Scoot. After that, it’s going to come down to scouting and player development, and let’s face it, we’ve truly sucked at both recently.
VW changes the whole team. I’m not even sure exactly how, but you do it. Scoot necessitates some major changes. If you draft Henderson, you either move on from Hayes or remove the godawful “veteran guard presence” we keep carrying. You also get Cade more minutes as a forward.
If we’re picking third and the two I want are gone, I seriously entertain trading the pick for a really good young vet. Lots of possibilities there, but that’s for another time. If forced to pick third, I’d actually lean Whitmore, but he’s a bit risky.
If you take a look at his numbers, he really struggles against better competition. He’s not an elite athlete — really no better than Dick in that regard — and the NBA is nothing if not higher level competition. Yes, he has better shot creation skills than Dick, and I’d certainly pick Miller before Dick, but I don’t see the large gap others do.
We need luck and VW or Scoot. After that, it’s going to come down to scouting and player development, and let’s face it, we’ve truly sucked at both recently.
VW changes the whole team. I’m not even sure exactly how, but you do it. Scoot necessitates some major changes. If you draft Henderson, you either move on from Hayes or remove the godawful “veteran guard presence” we keep carrying. You also get Cade more minutes as a forward.
If we’re picking third and the two I want are gone, I seriously entertain trading the pick for a really good young vet. Lots of possibilities there, but that’s for another time. If forced to pick third, I’d actually lean Whitmore, but he’s a bit risky.
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1.wemby
2.scoot
3.miller
4.dick
5.hendricks
2.scoot
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Here's hoping we get Wemby. I'm not sold on Scoot (undersized guard who's an unreliable shooter and nothing special on defense). If we don't get Wemby, I want a wing. If everyone's sold on Scoot being the #2 pick and we pick #2, I'm rooting for a trade.