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Casey possibly out as head coach? 

Post#1 » by Snakebites » Fri Apr 7, 2023 4:35 pm

Per Wiretap

Jake Fischer (not sure about him as a source) seems to think that Casey may be offered a position in the front office, and it does appear he met with Gores a couple of days ago. No indication he's being forced out but this is the first distinct indication I've heard that he might not last out his 5 year contract.

I'm pretty sure most of us want him out. Who would people like to see him replaced with?
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Re: Casey possibly out as head coach? 

Post#2 » by whitehops » Fri Apr 7, 2023 4:54 pm

i'm not as down on casey as a coach as most here, he's a little old-school in his approach to teaching players but he does get them to put in effort which can't be easy when you have the worst record over the last three seasons.

ime udoka and likely nick nurse will be the most successful coaches on the market. beyond that it's hard to tell what assistant coaches would be good as head coaches. stephen silas should be available too by reports, he wasn't even given a chance in houston with the players they gave him.
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Re: Casey possibly out as head coach? 

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Post#4 » by whitehops » Fri Apr 7, 2023 5:08 pm

"four straight losing seasons" might be my favourite understatement in a while. (from the wiretap).
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Re: Casey possibly out as head coach? 

Post#5 » by zeebneeb » Fri Apr 7, 2023 5:20 pm

There are a bevy of choices for coach out there, some with serious pedigrees attached, so this is the perfect year to get it done.

I want at least a real deal bigman coach on the roster though for sure. Doesn't have to be the head coach, but at least an assistant.

Hope this pans out, because I can't think of a better time to do it. Coaches galore to choose from.
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Post#6 » by Moses ShamMoses » Fri Apr 7, 2023 5:32 pm

I don't blame Coach Casey for the Pistons woes the past 4 years, but I agree its probably time for a change for his sake and our players sake. It just feels like time for a different voice in the locker room.
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Post#7 » by Uncle Mxy » Fri Apr 7, 2023 5:41 pm

I'd wait for our draft before seeing about a new coach. If we win the Wembanyama sweepstakes, our options expand.
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Post#8 » by whitehops » Fri Apr 7, 2023 5:58 pm

Uncle Mxy wrote:I'd wait for our draft before seeing about a new coach. If we win the Wembanyama sweepstakes, our options expand.


coaches tend to get let go almost immediately after the season is done. in the NFL they literally have a nickname "Black Monday" for the monday after the last regular season games on sunday where all the coaches get fired.
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Re: Casey possibly out as head coach? 

Post#9 » by flow » Fri Apr 7, 2023 6:07 pm

whitehops wrote:
Uncle Mxy wrote:I'd wait for our draft before seeing about a new coach. If we win the Wembanyama sweepstakes, our options expand.


coaches tend to get let go almost immediately after the season is done. in the NFL they literally have a nickname "Black Monday" for the monday after the last regular season games on sunday where all the coaches get fired.


True that he'd likely be let go before the draft lottery. But we wouldn't necessarily hire someone prior to the draft lottery.
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Re: Casey possibly out as head coach? 

Post#10 » by Snakebites » Fri Apr 7, 2023 6:21 pm

whitehops wrote:
Uncle Mxy wrote:I'd wait for our draft before seeing about a new coach. If we win the Wembanyama sweepstakes, our options expand.


coaches tend to get let go almost immediately after the season is done. in the NFL they literally have a nickname "Black Monday" for the monday after the last regular season games on sunday where all the coaches get fired.

I think he meant waiting until after the draft to HIRE a new coach. And yes, Wemby makes our HC job a lot more attractive, so it might not be a bad idea to wait and see if the fates smile on us.

In any event though, the article gives no indication that Casey is being fired. Merely that he'll have the choice whether to stay on or join the FO.
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Post#11 » by flow » Fri Apr 7, 2023 7:19 pm

Snakebites wrote:
whitehops wrote:
Uncle Mxy wrote:I'd wait for our draft before seeing about a new coach. If we win the Wembanyama sweepstakes, our options expand.


coaches tend to get let go almost immediately after the season is done. in the NFL they literally have a nickname "Black Monday" for the monday after the last regular season games on sunday where all the coaches get fired.

I think he meant waiting until after the draft to HIRE a new coach. And yes, Wemby makes our HC job a lot more attractive, so it might not be a bad idea to wait and see if the fates smile on us.

In any event though, the article gives no indication that Casey is being fired. Merely that he'll have the choice whether to stay on or join the FO.


I don't think after the draft. After the draft lottery, which is in mid-May. They''ll know then whether or not we're getting Wemby. Coaches are usually in place by the draft, which is in late June.
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Post#12 » by thesack12 » Fri Apr 7, 2023 7:35 pm

The meeting with Gores was to hammer out the details for a 3 year extension.
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Post#13 » by Uncle Mxy » Fri Apr 7, 2023 7:43 pm

Yes, I meant draft lottery, which this year is the Wembanyama sweepstakes.
If we slip to #5, we have the same coaching options we have basically right now.
If we get #1, that might cause some grade A talent to coach the next LeBron.
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Post#14 » by joeposh » Fri Apr 7, 2023 8:05 pm

They've been planning this for a while (with Casey in on it). He did an extension to help guide us through the rest of the tank, and even at the time they mentioned a probable transition into a front office role with us after he's done on the bench. New coach to lead us into the winning era while Casey gets his flowers/an executive job for his trouble.
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Post#15 » by Laimbeer » Fri Apr 7, 2023 8:08 pm

Good news, but don't know why you'd want his carcass in the front office.
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Post#16 » by zeebneeb » Fri Apr 7, 2023 8:26 pm

thesack12 wrote:The meeting with Gores was to hammer out the details for a 3 year extension.
I almost reported your post out of anger.

:lol: oh man, I will melt down if that happens
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Post#17 » by chrbal » Fri Apr 7, 2023 8:44 pm

So basically;

He can be an expiring contract head coach that they’ll fire the moment it looks bad, or he can join the front office.

Weaver to Casey “your options are taking a front office gig or we’ll probably fire you. So it’s your decision to be a head coach or in the front office”
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Re: Casey possibly out as head coach? 

Post#18 » by Sort » Fri Apr 7, 2023 8:55 pm

This just baffles me. For sure, blaming these last four years of Casey would be way too simplistic, and every team's announcer always appreciates that the Pistons play hard most games.

But just how bad do you have to be in order to get fired? Why are the Pistons redefining the low bar? I mean the Pistons secured the worst record in the league by four games! This year the team has not just been bad, but historically bad.
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Re: Casey possibly out as head coach? 

Post#19 » by DBC10 » Fri Apr 7, 2023 9:09 pm

Sort wrote:This just baffles me. For sure, blaming these last four years of Casey would be way too simplistic, and every team's announcer always appreciates that the Pistons play hard most games.

But just how bad do you have to be in order to get fired? Why are the Pistons redefining the low bar? I mean the Pistons secured the worst record in the league by four games! This year the team has not just been bad, but historically bad.


Yep, can't underscore how well we tanked this season in comparison to other losing seasons we had so far. By all measures this was THE season to tank due to the presence of VW's hype and yet we out-tanked all the bad teams with a comfortable margin to boot without much issue

Having said that, I won't be sad to see Casey be elevated to a glorified retirement role in an exec position. It's probably what Weaver intended after giving Casey that extension. Plus, he has young kids and is nearing 70. I think it's time
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Re: Casey possibly out as head coach? 

Post#20 » by 440BB » Fri Apr 7, 2023 9:21 pm

I'm pretty sure this was a possibility or even expected when Casey signed the extension. If the team had been more successful Casey may still have been planned to move into the front office by the last year of that extension. It seems like a reasonable reward for babysitting a multi year rebuild that was going to be ugly.

Whether one likes Casey or not, he has handled this messy transition professionally.

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