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2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:57 am
by NYG
This is a project I'm working on for cap space teams, just because I'm interested.

Here is your off-season projected cap space...
Projected NBA Salary Cap: $134,000,000

Bojan Bogdanovic $20,000,000
Marvin Bagley III $12,500,000
James Wiseman $12,119,440
Cade Cunningham $11,055,360
Alec Burks $10,489,600
Jaden Ivey $7,614,480
Killian Hayes $7,413,955
Isaiah Stewart $5,266,713
Eugene Omoruyi $1,927,896
Jalen Duren $4,330,680
RJ Hampton $1,997,238
Isaiah Livers $1,836,096
1st Overall $11,979,960
Dewayne Dedmon Dead Cap $2,748,674


Total Salary $111,280,092
Tax Space $50,719,908
Cap Space $22,719,908
Empty Roster Spot Cap Holds $0

So here are the rules...

1. You must spend ALL of your cap space. It can be spread across 2-3 players.

2. You cannot use ANY of the cap space towards a trade.

3. The following free agent have already re-signed with their current teams:
Kristaps Porzingis
Kyle Kuzma
Kyrie Irving
Caris LeVert
Nikola Vucevic
Rui Hachimura
D'Angelo Russell
Jerami Grant
Matisse Thybulle
Fred VanVleet
Jakob Poeltl
Harrison Barnes
Khris Middleton
Jae Crowder
Brook Lopez
Jordan Clarkson
Josh Hart
Dillon Brooks
Grant Williams
Cam Johnson
PJ Washington
Gabe Vincent
Max Strus

4. The following free agent signings have happened:
Gary Trent Jr to Orlando
James Harden and Draymond Green to Houston

5. Here is a list of the best remaining free agents:

Point Guard
Russell Westbrook
Derrick Rose
Reggie Jackson
Cory Joseph
Patrick Beverley
George Hill
Ty Jerome
Dennis Schroder
Jevon Carter
Dennis Smith Jr.

Shooting Guard
Donte DiVincenzo
Bruce Brown Jr.
Will Barton
Terrence Ross
Josh Richardson
Victor Oladipo
Seth Curry
Shake Milton
Lonnie Walker IV
Justin Holiday
Kendrick Nunn
Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Josh Okogie
Danny Green

Small Forward
Kelly Oubre
Torrey Craig
Stanley Johnson
Keita Bates-Diop
Justise Winslow
T.J. Warren
Kevin Knox
Jalen McDaniels

Power Forward
Christian Wood
Kevin Love
Dario Saric
Jeff Green
Georges Niang
Markieff Morris
Trey Lyles
Taj Gibson
JaMychal Green
Blake Griffin

Center
Moritz Wagner
Naz Reid
Dwight Powell
Mason Plumlee
Dewayne Dedmon
Robin Lopez
Bismack Biyombo
DeAndre Jordan
Thomas Bryant

RFA's Available
Coby White
Tre Jones
Ayo Dosunmu
Cam Reddish
Jaxson Hayes

You have 2 roster spots to fill with the above using $22,719,908. You can overpay a vet on a one year deal if you choose, things like that.

Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:04 am
by bstein14
Josh Hart $45 million over 3 years

Defends, shoots the 3 ball well... will help spread the floor and cover up some other defensive shortcomings. Our GM said we need someone who can defend and shoot the 3 ball.

Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:14 am
by NYG
bstein14 wrote:Josh Hart $45 million over 3 years

Defends, shoots the 3 ball well... will help spread the floor and cover up some other defensive shortcomings. Our GM said we need someone who can defend and shoot the 3 ball.


Josh Hart is re-signed already. What about splitting the cap space between Josh Richardson and Jalen McDaniels?

Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:23 am
by bstein14
The Pistons also have pick #31 so it's unlikely they add two FAs IMO plus comments from Weaver made it sound like they want to go out and get a starting level player in FA... so its likely going to be someone you are saying already resigned. Perhaps Jerami Grant coming back or someone like a Josh Hart or Grant Williams.

Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:26 am
by Pharaoh
NYG wrote:This is a project I'm working on for cap space teams, just because I'm interested.

Here is your off-season projected cap space...
Projected NBA Salary Cap: $134,000,000

Bojan Bogdanovic $20,000,000
Marvin Bagley III $12,500,000
James Wiseman $12,119,440
Cade Cunningham $11,055,360
Alec Burks $10,489,600
Jaden Ivey $7,614,480
Killian Hayes $7,413,955
Isaiah Stewart $5,266,713
Eugene Omoruyi $1,927,896
Jalen Duren $4,330,680
RJ Hampton $1,997,238
Isaiah Livers $1,836,096
1st Overall $11,979,960
Dewayne Dedmon Dead Cap $2,748,674


Total Salary $111,280,092
Tax Space $50,719,908
Cap Space $22,719,908
Empty Roster Spot Cap Holds $0

So here are the rules...

1. You must spend ALL of your cap space. It can be spread across 2-3 players.

2. You cannot use ANY of the cap space towards a trade.

3. The following free agent have already re-signed with their current teams:
Kristaps Porzingis
Kyle Kuzma
Kyrie Irving
Caris LeVert
Nikola Vucevic
Rui Hachimura
D'Angelo Russell
Jerami Grant
Matisse Thybulle
Fred VanVleet
Jakob Poeltl
Harrison Barnes
Khris Middleton
Jae Crowder
Brook Lopez
Jordan Clarkson
Josh Hart
Dillon Brooks
Grant Williams
Cam Johnson
PJ Washington
Gabe Vincent
Max Strus

4. The following free agent signings have happened:
Gary Trent Jr to Orlando
James Harden and Draymond Green to Houston

5. Here is a list of the best remaining free agents:

Point Guard
Russell Westbrook
Derrick Rose
Reggie Jackson
Cory Joseph
Patrick Beverley
George Hill
Ty Jerome
Dennis Schroder
Jevon Carter
Dennis Smith Jr.

Shooting Guard
Donte DiVincenzo
Bruce Brown Jr.
Will Barton
Terrence Ross
Josh Richardson
Victor Oladipo
Seth Curry
Shake Milton
Lonnie Walker IV
Justin Holiday
Kendrick Nunn
Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Josh Okogie
Danny Green

Small Forward
Kelly Oubre
Torrey Craig
Stanley Johnson
Keita Bates-Diop
Justise Winslow
T.J. Warren
Kevin Knox
Jalen McDaniels

Power Forward
Christian Wood
Kevin Love
Dario Saric
Jeff Green
Georges Niang
Markieff Morris
Trey Lyles
Taj Gibson
JaMychal Green
Blake Griffin

Center
Moritz Wagner
Naz Reid
Dwight Powell
Mason Plumlee
Dewayne Dedmon
Robin Lopez
Bismack Biyombo
DeAndre Jordan
Thomas Bryant

RFA's Available
Coby White
Tre Jones
Ayo Dosunmu
Cam Reddish
Jaxson Hayes

You have 2 roster spots to fill with the above using $22,719,908. You can overpay a vet on a one year deal if you choose, things like that.


Since it states #1 overall that means we got Wemby so:

Duren, Wiseman, Bagley
Wemby, Stewart
Bojan, Eugene, Livers
Ivey, Burks, RJ
Cade, Hayes

Split the $22+ mil however you like so I get Pat Bev & McDaniels

That said #31 would have to go since we'd have 16 dudes.

Duren - Wiseman
Wemby - Stewart
McDaniels - Bojan
Ivey - Burks
Cade - Bev

Bagley & Hayes on the trading block

Bojan cast much better in a 6th Man role, team D should be much improved

Deep bench of Livers, Eugene & RJ - see if any of these dudes can break out

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Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:39 am
by NYG
Pharaoh wrote:That said #31 would have to go since we'd have 16 dudes.

Bagley & Hayes on the trading block


I think it's more likely you keep 31 and consolidate here with Hayes and Bagley in some kind of 2 - for - 1 deal.

Bagley, Hayes and 31 for Duncan Robinson and 18?

Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:16 pm
by mattao313
I'd guess I'd split money between torey Craig and josh Richardson or just go with Kelly oubre and cory/Beverly. Slim pickings in that lot. Lol

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Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:49 pm
by Pharaoh
NYG wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:That said #31 would have to go since we'd have 16 dudes.

Bagley & Hayes on the trading block


I think it's more likely you keep 31 and consolidate here with Hayes and Bagley in some kind of 2 - for - 1 deal.

Bagley, Hayes and 31 for Duncan Robinson and 18?


How many years left on Robinson's contract now?

And would Miami give 18 to dump him?

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Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:56 pm
by joedumars1
Levert/Middleton/ or Lopez all the $ one year, lol. Let the young guys play then go for it next fa when hopefully the young guys make Detroit a place a star wants to join our big 4 cade/Ivey/duren/wemb Something along them lines. 2 vets for big $ one year just not take pt from anyone

Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:09 pm
by chrbal
Pharaoh wrote:
NYG wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:That said #31 would have to go since we'd have 16 dudes.

Bagley & Hayes on the trading block


I think it's more likely you keep 31 and consolidate here with Hayes and Bagley in some kind of 2 - for - 1 deal.

Bagley, Hayes and 31 for Duncan Robinson and 18?


How many years left on Robinson's contract now?

And would Miami give 18 to dump him?

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Two more seasons at full guarantee, 3rd season is guaranteed for a little less than $10 million.

Not sure, but I feel like we’re overpaying for 18 in that trade

Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:17 pm
by whitehops
Pharaoh wrote:
NYG wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:That said #31 would have to go since we'd have 16 dudes.

Bagley & Hayes on the trading block


I think it's more likely you keep 31 and consolidate here with Hayes and Bagley in some kind of 2 - for - 1 deal.

Bagley, Hayes and 31 for Duncan Robinson and 18?


How many years left on Robinson's contract now?

And would Miami give 18 to dump him?


at least 2 more years at $18-19M (third year left has $10M guaranteed). considering he wasn't in the regular rotation and only shot 33% from 3 i'd say they'd give up 18, future picks and robinson for like a 2045 second round pick.

Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:54 am
by Pharaoh
That's a no on Robinson then cause too big of a cap hit.

Duren - Wiseman
Wemby - Stewart - Eugene
McDaniels - Bojan - Livers
Ivey - Burks - RJ
Cade - Bev

#31 likely is a guard

Assuming I couldnt consolidate Bagley & Hayes before training camp ends RJ or Eugene gets cut.

I'd actually prefer a vet big and a vet combo guard in a trade but who knows what will be available come September

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Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:57 am
by Kalamazoo317
Hard pass on Robinson. Not seeing anything worth spending big money on in that free agency field. I'd probably try to fill it out with cheap vets with 1 year and then second year team option contracts to keep the money clean for next offseason. Bringing back Haimi would be a priority in that for me. I wouldn't mind Seth Curry either, as we can always use more shooting.

Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:38 pm
by vege
NYG wrote:
bstein14 wrote:Josh Hart $45 million over 3 years

Defends, shoots the 3 ball well... will help spread the floor and cover up some other defensive shortcomings. Our GM said we need someone who can defend and shoot the 3 ball.


Josh Hart is re-signed already. What about splitting the cap space between Josh Richardson and Jalen McDaniels?


Gross

Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:41 pm
by vege
NYG wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:That said #31 would have to go since we'd have 16 dudes.

Bagley & Hayes on the trading block


I think it's more likely you keep 31 and consolidate here with Hayes and Bagley in some kind of 2 - for - 1 deal.

Bagley, Hayes and 31 for Duncan Robinson and 18?


No, we need actual NBA players. And more important han anything, we need guys that can defend. I dislike both Bagley and Hayes with passion, and they're much better than Duncan Robinson. #18 is irrelevant we don't need any more bad prospects, we have plenty of those.

Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:51 pm
by vege
#31 + Killian Hayes for Royce O'Neale. Add future seconds if needed but I don't think more value is needed in this trade.

#1 draft Wembanyama

Jalen Duren / James Wiseman / Marvin Bagley
Victor Wemby / Isaiah Stewart / Eugene Omoruyi
Royce O'Neale / Bojan Bogdanovic/ Isaiah Livers
Bruce Brown / Alec Burks / RJ Hampton
Cade Cunningham / Jaden Ivey

If we land #2 draft Scoot, sign Grant Williams or Cameron Johnson

If we land #3 just cry and wait for a reboot under a new GM.

Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:06 am
by chrbal
vege wrote:#31 + Killian Hayes for Royce O'Neale. Add future seconds if needed but I don't think more value is needed in this trade.

#1 draft Wembanyama

Jalen Duren / James Wiseman / Marvin Bagley
Victor Wemby / Isaiah Stewart / Eugene Omoruyi
Royce O'Neale / Bojan Bogdanovic/ Isaiah Livers
Bruce Brown / Alec Burks / RJ Hampton
Cade Cunningham / Jaden Ivey

If we land #2 draft Scoot, sign Grant Williams or Cameron Johnson

If we land #3 just cry and wait for a reboot under a new GM.


You sign or trade for Bruce Brown?

Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:07 am
by vege
chrbal wrote:
vege wrote:#31 + Killian Hayes for Royce O'Neale. Add future seconds if needed but I don't think more value is needed in this trade.

#1 draft Wembanyama

Jalen Duren / James Wiseman / Marvin Bagley
Victor Wemby / Isaiah Stewart / Eugene Omoruyi
Royce O'Neale / Bojan Bogdanovic/ Isaiah Livers
Bruce Brown / Alec Burks / RJ Hampton
Cade Cunningham / Jaden Ivey

If we land #2 draft Scoot, sign Grant Williams or Cameron Johnson

If we land #3 just cry and wait for a reboot under a new GM.


You sign or trade for Bruce Brown?


He will be a FA

Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:48 am
by Pharaoh
I could support a Brown return. Believe I pointed out at the time we moved him that he was a good corner 3 guy.

Since leaving here he's shown he's developed all round. Versatile defender that can shoot, cut and playmake.

Qyestions are: how many years and what's the price?

Duren, Wiseman, Bagley
FA/Rookie, Stewart
FA/Rookie, Bojan, Livers
Ivey, Burks
Cade, Hayes

Assuming we land Wemby, sign McDaniels and Brown that makes for a interesting rotation:


That also would allow for some interesting big and small line ups:

Big: Duren, Wemby, McDaniels, Bojan, Cade

Small: Wemby, McDaniels, Cade, Brown, Ivey

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Re: 2023 Off-Season Cap Space Team Challenge: Spend ALL Your Cap Space

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:09 am
by bstein14
Pharaoh wrote:I could support a Brown return. Believe I pointed out at the time we moved him that he was a good corner 3 guy.

Since leaving here he's shown he's developed all round. Versatile defender that can shoot, cut and playmake.

Qyestions are: how many years and what's the price?

Duren, Wiseman, Bagley
FA/Rookie, Stewart
FA/Rookie, Bojan, Livers
Ivey, Burks
Cade, Hayes

Assuming we land Wemby, sign McDaniels and Brown that makes for a interesting rotation:


That also would allow for some interesting big and small line ups:

Big: Duren, Wemby, McDaniels, Bojan, Cade

Small: Wemby, McDaniels, Cade, Brown, Ivey

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Good coaches are using guys like Brown or Bey as screen setters. Bey is setting a ton of screens for Trae Young in Atlanta and he's getting more open looks there for sure... Brown setting screens a ton in Brooklyn as well for KG and Kyrie and now in Denver as well.

Old school coaches have only bigs set screens. I feel like Brown could work well out in the perimeter with Ivey or Cade. He is for sure someone we should consider..... and I think Brown and KCP are a major reason why Denver went from the 6th seed to the 1st seed out West... especially because Jokic knows how to play to their strengths.