Cade Cunningham Prove it Season?

mattao313 · Post #1 » by **mattao313** » Tue May 30, 2023 3:12 pm

I ve been watch a lot of pistons videos on YT and lot of people are saying next season is a prove it year for Cade. I actually kinda agree.

Besides staying healthy what do you guys think and what type of season do you think he needs to have put faith back into the doubters?

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DBC10 · Post #2 » by **DBC10** » Tue May 30, 2023 3:39 pm

Really just play a full season

zeebneeb · Post #3 » by **zeebneeb** » Tue May 30, 2023 3:56 pm

I say the same thing to this, as I have stated numerous times with any player that hasn't played close to three full seasons of games;

Give them time, remember Chauncey Billups.

If Cade plays like he did for a stretch last year before his shin started causing him obvious problems(go back, watch the games)

6 games

25.3ppg
6.2apg
6.7rpg

Then there is absolutely zero concern. Those are all-nba numbers. My fears lay not with his abilities, but with his health. Is he going to be truly 100%?

joedumars1 · Post #4 » by **joedumars1** » Tue May 30, 2023 4:26 pm

If he shows he’s healthy and plays 90% of the games that should be good, as long as he doesn’t play like ****

Kalamazoo317 · Post #5 » by **Kalamazoo317** » Tue May 30, 2023 4:49 pm

It's more about proving the fit with Cade and Ivey this season. We have to see if they can play well together.

Hopeful strides from Cade: improved foul drawing, on ball defense, and 3 point shooting

GreekAlex · Post #6 » by **GreekAlex** » Tue May 30, 2023 5:07 pm

For me it’s just seeing him be more efficient shooting overall and from 3.

Reducing turnovers would be a plus too and I’m confident all of that will improve with consistent play.

NYPiston · Post #7 » by **NYPiston** » Tue May 30, 2023 6:01 pm

He needs to prove that he can stay healthy for a full season. His rookie season was sidetracked in the first half because of the lingering injury then last year was a complete waste because of another injury, he had a few minor injuries in college as well.
He's become a forgotten player (even by some of the Pistons fanbase) because he's never on the court.

I have full confidence that he could be a top 20 player in this league, at minimum, if he can stay healthy. He has all the skills and basketball IQ to be a big time player but if he's never healthy then he'll be a case of "What If" like Brandon Roy for example is who is a pretty common comparable in terms of skill and, unfortunately, injury history. I think he can be even better than Roy if healthy but, again, IF. I'm concerned until there's a reason to not be concerned so, yes, I think it's a make or break year in terms of him just playing the full season healthy.

bstein14 · Post #8 » by **bstein14** » Tue May 30, 2023 7:02 pm

He really needs to play 70+ games and also be more efficient scoring the ball... If he can do those two things we'll be in good shape. Remember he could be signing a massive max contract extension in 13 months so he's got a lot to play for.

gusman · Post #9 » by **gusman** » Tue May 30, 2023 9:12 pm

bstein14 wrote:He really needs to play 70+ games and also be more efficient scoring the ball... If he can do those two things we'll be in good shape. Remember he could be signing a massive max contract extension in 13 months so he's got a lot to play for.

Even if he only playing 20 games over the next two season, he will still get a max contract. Lol

edmunder_prc · Post #10 » by **edmunder_prc** » Tue May 30, 2023 9:51 pm

This is team creepy desperate for anyone who can actually play.

What's the over/under number of games Cade plays this year? Do you put your house on the line for over 60?

If Cade can even suit up for most of the year, its a win. If he plays pretty well, it will be amazing. There is a general unrealistic idea he is going to play like he did in his best 10 games or so, the whole season, and actually play most of the games. That is extremely unlikely. Most likely he starts off slow, gets hurt again, some back slow, plays well for 30 games and the team still finishes with 20 wins.

Spider156 · Post #11 » by **Spider156** » Tue May 30, 2023 10:17 pm

Well he’s already proven he’s worth the max talent wise. To me at least I think he’s a definite star and it’s just a matter of time.

What he has to prove though is can he stay healthy? I think he will but freak injuries still exist. I think the biggest loss of last season is the tank wasn’t worth it falling to 5 because that means Cade sitting out the full season was a bad decision. He should’ve came back to play. It doesn’t take that long to recover from that surgery.

Post #12 » by **Snakebites** » Tue May 30, 2023 10:27 pm

Chauncey is the exception not the rule.

Yes this is a prove it year. I have hope he’ll do just that though.

Pharaoh · Post #13 » by **Pharaoh** » Tue May 30, 2023 10:39 pm

76 games into his career and he needs to prove it next season?

Prove he can be healthy yes. Anything else? Nah

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bstein14 · Post #14 » by **bstein14** » Tue May 30, 2023 10:49 pm

For me, he needs to "prove it" to get that Max extension after this season... if not, I likely wait and then deal with him as a RFA the following offseason.... I would not feel great about Weaver giving him the max if he only plays an inefficient 20-30 games putting up 25/6/7 with below average defense.... if that's what we get I'm holding off on that max deal.

mattao313 · Post #15 » by **mattao313** » Wed May 31, 2023 1:44 am

Pharaoh wrote:76 games into his career and he needs to prove it next season?

Prove he can be healthy yes. Anything else? Nah

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Why do people always come with the "he only played x amount of games" crap like he's going into his 3rd season and he's a former #1 pick supposed franchise player. He has shown talent but hasn't put it all together yet to be a plus player. He has a ton to prove this upcoming season.

For example if he finishes next season still woefully inefficient that's a major red flag.

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Post #16 » by **Snakebites** » Wed May 31, 2023 2:45 am

Pharaoh wrote:76 games into his career and he needs to prove it next season?

Prove he can be healthy yes. Anything else? Nah

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A year of injuries created as many or more concerns than a bad season.

And if he flames out it’s not going to matter to the whether it was due to injury or poor play.

He’s got to show progress- he must be healthy and have a year better than his rookie year. Categorically. Calling it 76 games is misleading. It’s been 2 years.

Pharaoh · Post #17 » by **Pharaoh** » Wed May 31, 2023 3:10 am

mattao313 wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:76 games into his career and he needs to prove it next season?

Prove he can be healthy yes. Anything else? Nah

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Why do people always come with the "he only played x amount of games" crap like he's going into his 3rd season and he's a former #1 pick supposed franchise player. He has shown talent but hasn't put it all together yet to be a plus player. He has a ton to prove this upcoming season.

For example if he finishes next season still woefully inefficient that's a major red flag.

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I have a lot of doubts about him as a "franchise" player and it's not just health.

IMO he's got 2 more seasons to show if he can be a legit #1 guy

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mattao313 · Post #18 » by **mattao313** » Wed May 31, 2023 4:38 am

Pharaoh wrote:
mattao313 wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:76 games into his career and he needs to prove it next season?

Prove he can be healthy yes. Anything else? Nah

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Why do people always come with the "he only played x amount of games" crap like he's going into his 3rd season and he's a former #1 pick supposed franchise player. He has shown talent but hasn't put it all together yet to be a plus player. He has a ton to prove this upcoming season.

For example if he finishes next season still woefully inefficient that's a major red flag.

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I have a lot of doubts about him as a "franchise" player and it's not just health.

IMO he's got 2 more seasons to show if he can be a legit #1 guy

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I 100% agree I don't think he's a Superstar but a nice 2nd or 3rd type. He still has a lot to prove to meet that tho.

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Pharaoh · Post #19 » by **Pharaoh** » Wed May 31, 2023 4:49 am

mattao313 wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:
mattao313 wrote:Why do people always come with the "he only played x amount of games" crap like he's going into his 3rd season and he's a former #1 pick supposed franchise player. He has shown talent but hasn't put it all together yet to be a plus player. He has a ton to prove this upcoming season.

For example if he finishes next season still woefully inefficient that's a major red flag.

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I have a lot of doubts about him as a "franchise" player and it's not just health.

IMO he's got 2 more seasons to show if he can be a legit #1 guy

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I 100% agree I don't think he's a Superstar but a nice 2nd or 3rd type. He still has a lot to prove to meet that tho.

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Very much so.

Health
Finishing at the rim
3 point shooting
Defensive end
Flow management
Clock management

Just off the top of my head.

I'm not part of the "convinced" camp. But I shouldn't be cause he simply hasn't played enough or shown enough yet.

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MotownMadness · Post #20 » by **MotownMadness** » Wed May 31, 2023 12:58 pm

A efficient Cade would be a impactful beast. Imagine him out there hitting 3s at a 40% clip while doing all the other things he does.