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If Miller falls to 3?

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If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#1 » by DET_Athletics » Fri Jun 2, 2023 6:06 pm

Would you be willing to trade 5th pick, Bojan and a future 1st for the 3rd pick. I think it would be worth it as it would free up capspace for us, get us the prospect we want and more cap space to throw money at a veteran to be our starting SF. In a perfect world we make this trade, throw money at starting SF like Kuzma, Grant or Middleton. Also find a way to turn Burks in to either Gary Trent Jr. or Malik Beasley.

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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#2 » by DetroitDon15 » Fri Jun 2, 2023 6:10 pm

It's not happening. Portland would want better. Additionally, the Pistons already owe future firsts. I am uncertain if sliding down two spots to add Bojan helps them. I also do not think that they have to space to do this deal. It would basically cost Grant which i do not think that they will do.
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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#3 » by Snakebites » Fri Jun 2, 2023 6:12 pm

For just about anyone I think it would depend on the protections on the pick.

I’m not wild about Brandon Miller. I’d take him at 5 but wouldn’t give up a lot to move up to get him.

I’ll gladly eat crow if he’s the next coming of Paul George in a few years.

I’m also not sure Portland does it. Miller fits.
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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#4 » by bstein14 » Fri Jun 2, 2023 6:38 pm

Snakebites wrote:For just about anyone I think it would depend on the protections on the pick.

I’m not wild about Brandon Miller. I’d take him at 5 but wouldn’t give up a lot to move up to get him.

I’ll gladly eat crow if he’s the next coming of Paul George in a few years.

I’m also not sure Portland does it. Miller fits.


My thoughts too. He's worth taking at #5 but wouldn't trade up. I said the same thing about Ivey last year... if we couldn't land Ivey I would have been fine with Murray at #5 he wasn't worth giving assets to move up for.
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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#5 » by theBigLip » Fri Jun 2, 2023 6:50 pm

It’s sort of funny how that future first to the Knicks protects us from doing some short sighted moves :lol:

I’m hesitant to give up too much for two spots. And how much better is Miller than Whitmore? I’m fine w moving Bogdonovich but would rather keep the FRP. I guess I’d do it but it’s not a slam dunk move.

I think a better use of BB would be to pair him with #31 and send that to a playoff team that has a pick in the late teens/early 20s.
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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#6 » by 440BB » Fri Jun 2, 2023 11:17 pm

Moving up to get Miller is based on the assumption he's the player we want. I wouldn't want him at 5, so not a move I'd want to see.
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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#7 » by chrbal » Sat Jun 3, 2023 3:09 am

Sit at 5 and consider taking him if he’s on the board still. I don’t see him as being worth giving up extra assets to acquire. And if I’m wrong on that, that’s fine
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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#8 » by Kilo » Sat Jun 3, 2023 3:20 am

Miller will be on the board at five and the Pistons will pass on him. He's not that good to take the risk on, the separation between him and the others in the top 8 or so not that big.

No way that Weaver, draft the person, would touch him.
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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#9 » by Pharaoh » Sat Jun 3, 2023 4:09 am

Kilo wrote:Miller will be on the board at five and the Pistons will pass on him. He's not that good to take the risk on, the separation between him and the others in the top 8 or so not that big.

No way that Weaver, draft the person, would touch him.
But if he's there at 5 we should take him.

One incident doesn't mean he's not a "high character" guy.

Tbh I'm sick of the passive dudes - I want attack dogs on the roster!

Regardless of current skillset draft for mindset! Guys that are willing to out work everyone, that love the game and don't back down when things get tough.

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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#10 » by Spider156 » Sat Jun 3, 2023 4:22 am

bstein14 wrote:
Snakebites wrote:For just about anyone I think it would depend on the protections on the pick.

I’m not wild about Brandon Miller. I’d take him at 5 but wouldn’t give up a lot to move up to get him.

I’ll gladly eat crow if he’s the next coming of Paul George in a few years.

I’m also not sure Portland does it. Miller fits.


My thoughts too. He's worth taking at #5 but wouldn't trade up. I said the same thing about Ivey last year... if we couldn't land Ivey I would have been fine with Murray at #5 he wasn't worth giving assets to move up for.

You say that now…we’ll find out how you really feel in 2 years when he’s one of the best guards in the East.
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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#11 » by thesack12 » Sat Jun 3, 2023 8:43 pm

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Kilo wrote:Miller will be on the board at five and the Pistons will pass on him. He's not that good to take the risk on, the separation between him and the others in the top 8 or so not that big.

No way that Weaver, draft the person, would touch him.
But if he's there at 5 we should take him.

One incident doesn't mean he's not a "high character" guy.

Tbh I'm sick of the passive dudes - I want attack dogs on the roster!

Regardless of current skillset draft for mindset! Guys that are willing to out work everyone, that love the game and don't back down when things get tough.

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Yeah, I'm not going to pretend like I know the specifics of what happened that night. For all I know Miller's buddy told him he was going to the gun range and asked to borrow the gun because he was considering purchasing a similar one and wanted to see how it performed by putting a few rounds through it.

That's probably not what happened, but Miller hasn't been charged with a crime. So with the publicly known information, I wouldn't remove him from my draft board.

And yes, Detroit needs some Dawgs. Preferrably highly talented dawgs. Miller may or may not be that guy, but he seems to be a lot more capable of being that guy than a lot of these other dudes that will be on the board at 5.
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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#12 » by mattao313 » Sat Jun 3, 2023 8:50 pm

I really like Miller but I wouldn't trade up for him I just don't think he's that level of prospect to do that type of thing.

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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#13 » by Neptune » Sat Jun 3, 2023 11:27 pm

I'm still hoping Miller falls to 5. If not, I'm expecting us to trade the 5th pick for proven talent.
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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#14 » by DetroitDon15 » Sat Jun 3, 2023 11:33 pm

Pharaoh wrote:
Kilo wrote:Miller will be on the board at five and the Pistons will pass on him. He's not that good to take the risk on, the separation between him and the others in the top 8 or so not that big.

No way that Weaver, draft the person, would touch him.
But if he's there at 5 we should take him.

One incident doesn't mean he's not a "high character" guy.

Tbh I'm sick of the passive dudes - I want attack dogs on the roster!

Regardless of current skillset draft for mindset! Guys that are willing to out work everyone, that love the game and don't back down when things get tough.

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I’m willing to draft him if he falls. I didn’t expect Ivey to fall to us but he did.

In relation to moving up in the draft, I’m not doing for anything less than a young future star. Those trades can back fire. (Fultz as an example). I’m only good to trade up to one and I know it would never happen.
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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#15 » by coordinator0 » Sun Jun 4, 2023 1:44 am

I would not personally. Miller would have been a fine pick if Detroit landed the 3rd pick, but he's not the type of prospect worth moving a ton of assets for. That's why I don't think the Blazers, Rockets, or Pistons are going to gain much traction for dealing their top five draft picks. There's just isn't that huge of a gap in talent after the top two.

I think Scoot goes 2nd whether it's Charlotte or someone moving up - he's worth it. After that? Nah. I mean look at all the players we're discussing for the 5th pick. At least one of them will be there at 10. Every other team is going to see the same thing. I'm hoping Detroit keeps the pick at this point because I doubt any veteran they will be able to get will be all that great. I'd rather gamble on the draft.
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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#16 » by SamFlow » Sun Jun 4, 2023 1:49 am

theBigLip wrote:It’s sort of funny how that future first to the Knicks protects us from doing some short sighted moves :lol:

I’m hesitant to give up too much for two spots. And how much better is Miller than Whitmore? I’m fine w moving Bogdonovich but would rather keep the FRP. I guess I’d do it but it’s not a slam dunk move.

I think a better use of BB would be to pair him with #31 and send that to a playoff team that has a pick in the late teens/early 20s.


We can trade a future first. But that would be 2029 after the requirements of the knicks trade are set to expire. lol
But yes, Stops us from going crazy all in before it's time
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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#17 » by Obe1ball » Sun Jun 4, 2023 2:03 pm

Kilo wrote:Miller will be on the board at five and the Pistons will pass on him. He's not that good to take the risk on, the separation between him and the others in the top 8 or so not that big.

No way that Weaver, draft the person, would touch him.


He has been blowing his team interviews. Bet he drops. Hendricks or Whitmore would be a better fit, younger and better defensively.
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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#18 » by Phenomenonsense » Sun Jun 4, 2023 2:16 pm

I think at this point I'm all in on Hendricks, and if we could trade back to do it great, if not that's my guy.
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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#19 » by buzzkilloton » Wed Jun 7, 2023 2:05 am

Yes of course. Him and Scoot are a tier above everyone after them. It wouldnt be a big enough offer though.

He likely wont be around at 3 anyways because long 3+D players are very very coveted ITL today.

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Re: If Miller falls to 3? 

Post#20 » by tmorgan » Wed Jun 7, 2023 5:56 am

Charlotte is dumb. Just giving away value. If you don’t want Scoot because of LaMelo, fine, but extract that price from someone else.

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