Would you do these 5 draft day trades?

[bstein14]

#1. Trade #5 + #31 to Indiana for #7, #26, and #29

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#2. Trade #31 for a future lottery protected first rounder from a good team such as Boston, Philly, etc.

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#3. Trade #5 + Bagley + Hayes to Toronto for #13 and FVV (who decides to not opt out but is willing to sign an extension in Detroit)

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#4. Trade #5 + #31 for #4? (Perhaps hoping Miller falls to #4)

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#5. Trade #31 + Stewart to move up to the late lottery in the #12 to #15 range.

[thesack12]

1) Yes, if Miller isn't on the board
2) Yes, no qualms at all
3) No (Don't like FVV like at all)
4) Yes, but only if Miller is there at 4.
5) Yes, Troy insists on bringing in more low end developmental bigs that stand in Stew's who still needs development himself

[chrbal]

1- sure. But I’d want a future (protected) first over one of the two later first round picks first.

2- yes if it’s offered.

3- Don’t see the need for van fleet for us. I don’t see why you’d spend that much to take the offense away from Cunningham and Ivey.

4- I guess if Miller is available at 4 and we’re sure some other team is making an offer for 4. Plus we actually want Miller

5- wouldn’t mind it

I would try to do 1, if I could make it a 3 team deal and acquire a good two way wing. Like Finney-Smith level. Like offer the two firsts and Bagley or something along those lines

[FloridaMan78]

No to all

[Pharaoh]

1 - No. I don't want to add another 3 kids to the roster.

2 - sure why not? Getting a future first for a 2nd is fine

3 - No. Not trading #5 for FVV. Not without knowing who else we're going to sign in free agency

4 - Only if Miller is there at #4

5 - No. I don't know enough about the players available in that range to consider dealing Stewart for any of them. For all his flaws at least we know where he could fit on a good team

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[theBigLip]

Good OP!

#1. Trade #5 + #31 to Indiana for #7, #26, and #29
Yes. But like most of these, would have to be draft day trade. Getting Whitmore, Wallace, Hendrix at #7 would be the requirement, which seems very likely. A couple more late picks lets us take a couple more swings, or move both of those for a single pick into the late teens/early twenties.

#2. Trade #31 for a future lottery protected first rounder from a good team such as Boston, Philly, etc.
No. Our #31 is essentially a FRP, and just a few slots worse than a good teams pick. I might reconsider if it were the Suns, etc, where a good team could be bad in 4 or 5 years.

#3. Trade #5 + Bagley + Hayes to Toronto for #13 and FVV (who decides to not opt out but is willing to sign an extension in Detroit)
No. Not interested in Van Fleet. But Bagley and Hayes seem slightly negative, so moving down slightly, and throwing them in seems like an interesting strategy. But #13 and Van Fleet is not it.

#4. Trade #5 + #31 for #4? (Perhaps hoping Miller falls to #4)
Yes if Miller is there.

#5. Trade #31 + Stewart to move up to the late lottery in the #12 to #15 range.
Toughest one yet. Stewart is part of the team’s soul, but not starter quality. 12-15 should get us a future stater, but just as likely a rotation player like Stewart. I’d probably decline.

[mattao313]

Wouldn't be interested besides trading 5+31 if Miller fell

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[Kalamazoo317]

Good OP!

#1. Trade #5 + #31 to Indiana for #7, #26, and #29
Yes. But like most of these, would have to be draft day trade. Getting Whitmore, Wallace, Hendrix at #7 would be the requirement, which seems very likely. A couple more late picks lets us take a couple more swings, or move both of those for a single pick into the late teens/early twenties.

I'm on board with this

2. Yes, just because you never know when a "good" team is going to fall apart.
3. No, no interest in Vanfleet
4. No, I'm not interested in trading up in this draft for anyone but Wemby
5. Nah, I think Beefstew can still be an important piece for us

[Kilo]

#1. Trade #5 + #31 to Indiana for #7, #26, and #29
Only if Detroit was then going to flip the #26 and #29 for future first rounders for teams looking for FRP's now. I don't think Detroit is looking to add three rookies this off-season. I think they likely move Number 31 for this reason.
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#2. Trade #31 for a future lottery protected first rounder from a good team such as Boston, Philly, etc.
Certainly. An ideal trade I think. As I mentioned above, I don't see Detroit adding two rookies this off season. Given the pick though the acquiring team would want to heavily protect that future first, and I wouldn't have interest in it becoming future bad seconds.


#3. Trade #5 + Bagley + Hayes to Toronto for #13 and FVV (who decides to not opt out but is willing to sign an extension in Detroit)
No real interest in FVV.


#4. Trade #5 + #31 for #4? (Perhaps hoping Miller falls to #4)
Nah, don't like the trade.

#5. Trade #31 + Stewart to move up to the late lottery in the #12 to #15 range.
Big no here. Stew is a core piece here, even if eventually off the bench. Not a big fan of this draft depth either in this range,

[Kalamazoo317]

I wonder if Kris Murray will be there at 26? Getting an older rookie that we can keep salary controlled for a bit but who has a higher floor coming in might be a nice thing.

[MortSahlfan]

1. No
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. No
5. No

[NYPiston]

1. 5+31 for 7+26+29 - Sure, why the hell not? Moving into the 1st and adding a 1st to get the same level of player at 7. Gives them more flexibility to possibly acquire a player that can help now.

2. #31 to Boston or Philly for a future protected 1st - Depends on how far into the future. If it's a 2024 1st, probably not because of the perceived weakness of the draft but 2025 or after would be tempting. I'll say yes.

3. #5+Bagley+Hayes for #13+FVV - Absolutely not. No interest in overpaying a little older guard, makes no sense IMO even if it meant dumping the Bagley contract.

4. #5+#31 for #4 - Only if Miller drops and I'm not even that big a fan of Miller. I think it would cost more than that though.

5. #31+Stewart for #12-#15 - I wouldn't do that and I'm not sure that Stewart has that kind of value anyway.

[vege]

1-No
2-Yes
3-Hell no
4-Probably not
5-Yes

[Invictus88]

1. Depends on who's on the board at 5. (i.e. you don't make this trade until we are on the clock on draft day).
2. Same as above; optionally make the deal on draft day.
3. No.
4. Same as #1 and 2.

5. Yes. I like Stewart's mentality/motor but he's too short / lacks the verticality necessary to be a starting-level rim protector. His offensive skills aren't good enough to make up for his shortcomings on defense.

I really like Stewart as a person but we have a glut of ill-fitting bigs. We have to start paring down if just for the sake of development of the others. If we have a chance of getting a starter in return for him late in the lottery or a better fitting good role player then I think we need to take it.

I think it's a hard reality for some folks on this board to face as it's easy to become personally attached to his development. But I think it's time.

[Laimbeer]

#1. Trade #5 + #31 to Indiana for #7, #26, and #29

Yes. There's a good chance Whitmore or Walker will be there.

#2. Trade #31 for a future lottery protected first rounder from a good team such as Boston, Philly, etc.

Easy yes.

#3. Trade #5 + Bagley + Hayes to Toronto for #13 and FVV (who decides to not opt out but is willing to sign an extension in Detroit)

Hell no.

#4. Trade #5 + #31 for #4? (Perhaps hoping Miller falls to #4)

Only if the top three of Wemby, Scoot, and Miller doesn't hold.

#5. Trade #31 + Stewart to move up to the late lottery in the #12 to #15 range.

Easy yes but I don't think he gets you there.

[Patrick27]

#1. Trade #5 + #31 to Indiana for #7, #26, and #29
No, because that would cause 3 new guaranteed contracts on our roster this year. I'd be willing to move back to 7 for some lottery protected first rounders a few years down the road, though.

#2. Trade #31 for a future lottery protected first rounder from a good team such as Boston, Philly, etc.
Yes, but it would have to be a distant first. I'd consider a 2029 1st with lottery protection, because it allows us to accumulate future assets without taking up a roster spot. I just don't think Boston or Philly would want to do this. #31 is often more valuable than #25-30 because it gives the rights to the player without the contract guarantee, so the only reason to do this is to gamble that after a few years, Boston or Philly will end up giving us a pick around #20.

#3. Trade #5 + Bagley + Hayes to Toronto for #13 and FVV (who decides to not opt out but is willing to sign an extension in Detroit)
No thanks to FVV. I wouldn't sign him on this team if he was an unrestricted free agent. Too much for #5, and the Hayes and Bagley contracts aren't hurting us that much to require us to give away a lottery pick to move them.

#4. Trade #5 + #31 for #4? (Perhaps hoping Miller falls to #4)
Not going to happen. I'd do it, but only if Miller or Scoot falls to 4, which is not very likely. If that happens, they'll have better offers for #4.

#5. Trade #31 + Stewart to move up to the late lottery in the #12 to #15 range.[/quote]
No. I don't think this improves us. I happen to think we should keep Stewart for his hustle and defense as we attempt to establish a new culture under Monty Williams.

[bstein14]

#1. Trade #5 + #31 to Indiana for #7, #26, and #29 I would because I don't see much seperation of prospects between #5 thru #7. Obviously if Weaver feels like someone stands out at #5 it makes sense to keep it. I would then either try to package both 1sts to move up, or try to trade one for a future first as I think two rookies is plenty for us no need for three.
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#2. Trade #31 for a future lottery protected first rounder from a good team such as Boston, Philly, etc. This is most likely a yes from me unless someone falls out of the first round that is too good to pass up. Getting a future first can help us in a trade down the road and its super unlikely #31 makes the rotation for us for a while anyways.

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#3. Trade #5 + Bagley + Hayes to Toronto for #13 and FVV (who decides to not opt out but is willing to sign an extension in Detroit) This is a no from me as well because its too high of a price to pay to move down from #5 to #13. That said, it sounds likely that Toronto isn't going into rebuild mode but it also sounds like FVV will be opting out of his last year to become a FA so this is likely moot anyways. I would trade Bagley + Hayes + #31 for FVV but that of course wouldn't be enough to get them to take on those contracts.

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#4. Trade #5 + #31 for #4? (Perhaps hoping Miller falls to #4) I'm on the fence on this one, but its likely a no from me.

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#5. Trade #31 + Stewart to move up to the late lottery in the #12 to #15 range. This one is for sure a now from me, as I'm still high on Stewart's upside and he's one of our few above average defenders. If someone fell that Weaver really liked at #5 like Duren did to us last year at #13 then maybe a deal like this is hard to pass up to land another player Weaver sees as Duren like but overall I think Stewart is worth more to us than a mid first even if his value is worth less than that around the league.

[FloridaMan78]

Pick 31 is really valuable. This draft has some really good players that teams are going to pass up to reach for potential. Especially for big wings who we just happen to really need. I would actually be really disappointed if Weaver didn’t get a rotational player at 31.

Guys like Prosper, Maxwell Lewis, Bobbi Klintman all are perfect especially if we pass on Whitmore and go with Walker or Hendricks.

There’s also some playmaking shooting guards like Podziemski and Ben Sheppard that I think could step in immediately and make an impact.

I also don’t think we should bring in more than 2 rookies.

[bstein14]

Pick 31 is really valuable. This draft has some really good players that teams are going to pass up to reach for potential. Especially for big wings who we just happen to really need. I would actually be really disappointed if Weaver didn’t get a rotational player at 31.

Guys like Prosper, Maxwell Lewis, Bobbi Klintman all are perfect especially if we pass on Whitmore and go with Walker or Hendricks.

There’s also some playmaking shooting guards like Podziemski and Ben Sheppard that I think could step in immediately and make an impact.

I also don’t think we should bring in more than 2 rookies.

Assuming that the projected lottery picks are all gone... These are guys projected at 15-25 range that if one of them falls I'm excited to get.
At #31 will any of these guys be available? If so I'm keeping the pick. If not I wouldn't be opposing to moving it for a future pick.


Jordan Hawkins -> UConn Sophomore
Kris Murray -> Iowa Junior
Jett Howard -> Michigan Freshman
Kobe Bufkin -> Michigan Sophomore
GG Jackson -> South Carolina Freshman
Dariq Whitehead - Duke Freshman (kind of on the fence on him feel like he didn't live up to hype at Duke but was a top recruit of class... went to same HS as Cade)
Brice Sensabaugh - Ohio State Freshman

[Kalamazoo317]

I'd love to get Kris Murray