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SF Cam Johnson (good overall SF)

Or

SF Grant Williams (3&D specialist)

Or

PF Kyle Kuzma (Stretch-4, Michigan native)

Kuzma doesn’t defend. Johnson defends but injury prone. Johnson is the more winning player but Kuzma won a championship right? If you ask me Johnson all the way just because that’s Monty’s guy. Once Nets match, switch focus to Kuzma. Personally I don’t like Kuzma. I think he hates detroit and I want no part of him on this team. He’s got a loser personality, he’s a child.

Kuzma is another guy that puts up stats but doesn't play winning basketball. Last thing this team needs. Of course he could change and get better at doing all the little things you need to do to win but IMO it would be like signing Charlie V all over again.

I'd rather have Josh Hart or Bruce Brown on the wing than Kuzma even though Kuzma can score some points he isn't what we need at all.

Grant Williams, and I honestly believe that.

keepitrealhomes wrote:Grant Williams, and I honestly believe that.

I don’t get the Grant fixation.

The guy is not a starting level player.

keepitrealhomes wrote:Grant Williams, and I honestly believe that.

I will add him to the original post.

Snakebites wrote:

keepitrealhomes wrote:Grant Williams, and I honestly believe that.

I don’t get the Grant fixation.

The guy is not a starting level player.

He’s not a starter on a loaded team like the Celtics. But he’s a guy that can defend multiple positions, and well. Plus he’s a really good 3-pt shooter. Would be a good fit on both sides of the ball for what we need.

Snakebites wrote:

keepitrealhomes wrote:Grant Williams, and I honestly believe that.

I don’t get the Grant fixation.

The guy is not a starting level player.

I get most people don’t feel that he is, to me he just fits our biggest need. We need someone that can defend on the perimeter, we literally don’t have a single player that can. Even if we draft someone, chances are it’ll take them a year or two to figure it out and be good. We need more than one good defender on the perimeter anyways. And all of our targets in the draft are pretty poor on perimeter defense. Black is about the only one that can possibly be good next year.

Ideally we trade Bagley for Grant Williams. That would actually fit both teams needs. Detroit and Boston have a ton of rumors to have already been talking so I’m hoping it’s got something to do with that.

Piston Pete wrote:

keepitrealhomes wrote:Grant Williams, and I honestly believe that.

I will add him to the original post.

Snakebites wrote:

keepitrealhomes wrote:Grant Williams, and I honestly believe that.

I don’t get the Grant fixation.

The guy is not a starting level player.

He’s not a starter on a loaded team like the Celtics. But he’s a guy that can defend multiple positions, and well. Plus he’s a really good 3-pt shooter. Would be a good fit on both sides of the ball for what we need.

He's a spot up shooter- that's really all he brings. He's not a guy who can shoot off the dribble, play off of screens, or anything like that. You leave him open and he'll shoot. That's about it. Which is why advanced metrics paint him as a replacement level offensive player. It's not just that he's behind Brown/Tatum on the Celtics. I genuinely don't think he's a guy who should start for ANY halfway decent team. And yeah, we aren't that now- but that doesn't mean we need to be paying starters money for a guy who isn't a starter.

He's also a decent defender but not a stopper, which is why they pulled him out of the game during stretches against the Heat when Jimmy was lighting him up.

There were games where he wasn't even in Boston's rotation. Anyone who can straight up be out of a playoff rotation under any circumstances is not worth big bucks.

Cam Johnson and it isn’t close.

Kuzma is way overrated.
Williams is not a starter. If we can pay him $8M, sure. But he’ll get 15+ and it is an overpay

Cam Johnson with be hard to get because he’s restricted

Grant Williams is a try hard role player

Kuzma is a clown and would be bad for team culture

Cam by a long way.

Bruce Brown next

Josh Hart after that

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Sin eat. None are worth the money they'll ask for.

Porzingis and Cam are the only two I'm interested in throwing a sizeable contract at this off season (assuming Jerami Grant is staying with Portland). Would rather take on a player in a trade than tie up long term money on these other options.

Pharaoh wrote:Cam by a long way.

Bruce Brown next

Josh Hart after that

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I agree with this, but don’t think Cam is gettable, even at 35 a year or whatever.

Focus on Bruce (may just stay and get paid next year) or Hart.

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tmorgan wrote:

Pharaoh wrote:Cam by a long way.

Bruce Brown next

Josh Hart after that

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I agree with this, but don’t think Cam is gettable, even at 35 a year or whatever.

Focus on Bruce (may just stay and get paid next year) or Hart.

His Max is approx 32

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Pharaoh wrote:

tmorgan wrote:

Pharaoh wrote:Cam by a long way.

Bruce Brown next

Josh Hart after that

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I agree with this, but don’t think Cam is gettable, even at 35 a year or whatever.

Focus on Bruce (may just stay and get paid next year) or Hart.

His Max is approx 32

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They increased the "estimate" for the salary cap up to $134 million. 25% starting for guys coming off rookie contracts so it could start at $33.5 million

$33.5 million (23/24)
$36.0 million (24/25)
$38.5 million (25/26)
$41.0 million (26/27)
Total 4 years $149 million (average of $37.25 per year)

Not that he's going to get that deal, but he could start as high as $33.5 million. I think once you get to 4 years $120 million it starts to get to the price point the Nets might pass.

Snakebites wrote:

keepitrealhomes wrote:Grant Williams, and I honestly believe that.

I don’t get the Grant fixation.

The guy is not a starting level player.

We need a guy who can space the floor and defend multiple positions. He can do both of those things at a high level. What’s not to like, especially if it’s a third of the price we’d have to throw Johnson?

keepitrealhomes wrote:

Snakebites wrote:

keepitrealhomes wrote:Grant Williams, and I honestly believe that.

I don’t get the Grant fixation.

The guy is not a starting level player.

We need a guy who can space the floor and defend multiple positions. He can do both of those things at a high level. What’s not to like, especially if it’s a third of the price we’d have to throw Johnson?

Johnson is a much better shooter. And Williams can’t spread the floor at a “high level”. He can do so adequately.

He would be too much but grant Williams is same mold as Bruce brown and kcp no? Not sure he cuts like brown. Idk what role player 3&d cutters should command.