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2023-24 schedule is out. 

Post#1 » by zeebneeb » Thu Aug 17, 2023 9:45 pm

https://www.nba.com/pistons/schedule

Seems like no one knew it came out today.
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Re: 2023-24 schedule is out. 

Post#2 » by GreekAlex » Thu Aug 17, 2023 9:52 pm

zeebneeb wrote:https://www.nba.com/pistons/schedule

Seems like no one knew it came out today.


Thanks for posting it. I wasn’t aware.

Hopefully I can plan a few trips to fun away games.
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Post#3 » by zeebneeb » Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:51 pm

So the Pistons have 15 back to backs, the most in the league.

That means 36.58% of the Pistons schedule is two games in a row

Good thing the team is insanely young...
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Post#4 » by TPA » Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:54 pm

Tough first couple of months between opponent strength and travel. Some of those back to backs are going to be brutal.
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Post#5 » by Spider156 » Fri Aug 18, 2023 1:27 am

zeebneeb wrote:So the Pistons have 15 back to backs, the most in the league.

That means 36.58% of the Pistons schedule is two games in a row

Good thing the team is insanely young...

Detroit vs Everybody. Seems like they’re always trying to screw us in the league.
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Post#6 » by MotownMadness » Fri Aug 18, 2023 1:50 am

zeebneeb wrote:So the Pistons have 15 back to backs, the most in the league.

That means 36.58% of the Pistons schedule is two games in a row

Good thing the team is insanely young...

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Re: 2023-24 schedule is out. 

Post#7 » by Canadafan » Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:33 am

GreekAlex wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:https://www.nba.com/pistons/schedule

Seems like no one knew it came out today.


Thanks for posting it. I wasn’t aware.

Hopefully I can plan a few trips to fun away games.


Where have you gone so far? I'd like to try and see every team in league vs pistons at some point. Lofty goal. So far I've done Miami, cle, Toronto. 24 to go :wink:
I'm eying up the Orlando +Miami games and the Lakers+Suns games
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Re: 2023-24 schedule is out. 

Post#8 » by GreekAlex » Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:53 am

Canadafan wrote:
GreekAlex wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:https://www.nba.com/pistons/schedule

Seems like no one knew it came out today.


Thanks for posting it. I wasn’t aware.

Hopefully I can plan a few trips to fun away games.


Where have you gone so far? I'd like to try and see every team in league vs pistons at some point. Lofty goal. So far I've done Miami, cle, Toronto. 24 to go :wink:
I'm eying up the Orlando +Miami games and the Lakers+Suns games


I live in LA most of the year so I’m often at Crypto Arena (staples center). I’ve also been to Oricle where the warriors used to play. Hopefully I’ll make it to their new home at the chase center in SF this season.

I’ve been to MSG. Hopefully I can add Barclays to the list this year.

I went to Amway arena as a teenager with my family. Not sure if Orlando still plays there.

I’ve been to other events at the Arena that the Heat play in but I’m hoping to catch a Heat game this year. I have my eyes on the October 25th opener. Halloween in Miami is always fun!

I’ve also been to the Talking Stick arena in Phx.

This year my goal is Miami, Brooklyn, Chicago and the Warriors new spot. Maybe a Toronto game too.
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Re: 2023-24 schedule is out. 

Post#9 » by Pharaoh » Fri Aug 18, 2023 5:08 am

MotownMadness wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:So the Pistons have 15 back to backs, the most in the league.

That means 36.58% of the Pistons schedule is two games in a row

Good thing the team is insanely young...

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Not surprised.

Anyone know how many back to backs we had last season? Cause I seem to remember a similar discussion when that schedule came out

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Post#10 » by flow » Fri Aug 18, 2023 4:11 pm

zeebneeb wrote:So the Pistons have 15 back to backs, the most in the league.

That means 36.58% of the Pistons schedule is two games in a row

Good thing the team is insanely young...


According to this article, the Magic are the team with the most "rest disadvantaged" games. Followed by the Raptors and the Kings.

https://sports.yahoo.com/notes-nbas-schedule-release-231143913.html

Good article by, the way.

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Post#11 » by Snakebites » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:03 pm

flow wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:So the Pistons have 15 back to backs, the most in the league.

That means 36.58% of the Pistons schedule is two games in a row

Good thing the team is insanely young...


According to this article, the Magic are the team with the most "rest disadvantaged" games. Followed by the Raptors and the Kings.

https://sports.yahoo.com/notes-nbas-schedule-release-231143913.html

Good article by, the way.

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Having no rest is a bigger deal than only having one day compared to another teams’ two days.

It’s hardly a secret that they way these schedules are put together isn’t equitable. Never has been.

And yet we still watch…
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Post#12 » by flow » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:36 pm

Snakebites wrote:
flow wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:So the Pistons have 15 back to backs, the most in the league.

That means 36.58% of the Pistons schedule is two games in a row

Good thing the team is insanely young...


According to this article, the Magic are the team with the most "rest disadvantaged" games. Followed by the Raptors and the Kings.

https://sports.yahoo.com/notes-nbas-schedule-release-231143913.html

Good article by, the way.

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Having no rest is a bigger deal than only having one day compared to another teams’ two days.



No doubt about that.

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Post#13 » by Snakebites » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:55 pm

That same article states Boston has the most rest-advantaged days.

I categorically don’t believe things like lottery conspiracy theories in the NBA. I also don’t think the league as an institution deliberately hands game outcomes to teams.

But I think cutting back on inequities like these is one of the ways they can give less oxygen to those types of theories.
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Post#14 » by Sort » Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:11 pm

I get the Detroit versus everybody vibe, but the article said every team has 13 back to backs. Pistons have 15. It's not exactly gross mismanagement even if it isn't equitable. What I noticed is that 9 of the last 11 games is on the road. Might be a hard push to reach the play-in.

And to be fair, some stuff is silly: Denver has the easiest schedule because they don't have to play themselves, so of course their opponents win share is lower.

Finally, the article went to publication with this error: instead of saying Myles Turner, he wrote "Myles Davis."

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Post#15 » by MotownMadness » Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:16 pm

I can remember SVG even publicly complaining about the league given us the most and I don't think it's ever changed.
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Post#16 » by whitehops » Sat Aug 19, 2023 12:08 am

Snakebites wrote:That same article states Boston has the most rest-advantaged days.

I categorically don’t believe things like lottery conspiracy theories in the NBA. I also don’t think the league as a I stitutio deliberately hands game outcomes to teams.

But I think cutting back on inequities like these is one of the ways they can give less oxygen to those types of theories.


scheduling isn't easy - i saw an insider article once on how the nba schedule is made and there are like over a million possibilities. then you have to factor in that the tv networks choose what games they show nationally which further handcuffs your options. then there is arena availability, since a bunch of teams share arenas with NHL teams and there are concerts. example: the pistons are scheduled to host the magic on february 24th at 8 PM. the red wings are scheduled to host the avalanche on february 24th... at 7 PM. the league also has to work around things like other events (super bowl, ncaa final, etc.). there's travel limitations too with the west coast time difference (think of the logistics having a game in POR and then a game in ORL the next day). i think the networks dictating the national tv schedule has the most impact but that's what brings the league so much money.

i used to work for a youth soccer league and even on that small scale it was tough to schedule things that worked for everyone or was perfectly balanced. i don't think the league has an agenda with scheduling when it comes to competitive advantage.
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Post#17 » by Snakebites » Sat Aug 19, 2023 12:32 am

whitehops wrote:
Snakebites wrote:That same article states Boston has the most rest-advantaged days.

I categorically don’t believe things like lottery conspiracy theories in the NBA. I also don’t think the league as a I stitutio deliberately hands game outcomes to teams.

But I think cutting back on inequities like these is one of the ways they can give less oxygen to those types of theories.


scheduling isn't easy - i saw an insider article once on how the nba schedule is made and there are like over a million possibilities. then you have to factor in that the tv networks choose what games they show nationally which further handcuffs your options. then there is arena availability, since a bunch of teams share arenas with NHL teams and there are concerts. example: the pistons are scheduled to host the magic on february 24th at 8 PM. the red wings are scheduled to host the avalanche on february 24th... at 7 PM. the league also has to work around things like other events (super bowl, ncaa final, etc.). there's travel limitations too with the west coast time difference (think of the logistics having a game in POR and then a game in ORL the next day). i think the networks dictating the national tv schedule has the most impact but that's what brings the league so much money.

i used to work for a youth soccer league and even on that small scale it was tough to schedule things that worked for everyone or was perfectly balanced. i don't think the league has an agenda with scheduling when it comes to competitive advantage.

All I know is that we’re at or near the top in back to backs year after year. Regardless of intention it is systemic inequality.
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Post#18 » by kierkegaard » Sat Aug 19, 2023 12:39 am

whitehops wrote:
Snakebites wrote:That same article states Boston has the most rest-advantaged days.

I categorically don’t believe things like lottery conspiracy theories in the NBA. I also don’t think the league as a I stitutio deliberately hands game outcomes to teams.

But I think cutting back on inequities like these is one of the ways they can give less oxygen to those types of theories.


scheduling isn't easy - i saw an insider article once on how the nba schedule is made and there are like over a million possibilities. then you have to factor in that the tv networks choose what games they show nationally which further handcuffs your options. then there is arena availability, since a bunch of teams share arenas with NHL teams and there are concerts. example: the pistons are scheduled to host the magic on february 24th at 8 PM. the red wings are scheduled to host the avalanche on february 24th... at 7 PM. the league also has to work around things like other events (super bowl, ncaa final, etc.). there's travel limitations too with the west coast time difference (think of the logistics having a game in POR and then a game in ORL the next day). i think the networks dictating the national tv schedule has the most impact but that's what brings the league so much money.

i used to work for a youth soccer league and even on that small scale it was tough to schedule things that worked for everyone or was perfectly balanced. i don't think the league has an agenda with scheduling when it comes to competitive advantage.


Schedule writing/optimization was an early achievement of machine learning. I'd be surprised if a computer doesn't spit out the basic schedule which is then tweaked by the NBA front office. As stated, too many possibilities to work it all out manually, though that's obviously what they did in times past.
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Post#19 » by kierkegaard » Sat Aug 19, 2023 12:41 am

Sort wrote:I get the Detroit versus everybody vibe, but the article said every team has 13 back to backs. Pistons have 15. It's not exactly gross mismanagement even if it isn't equitable. What I noticed is that 9 of the last 11 games is on the road. Might be a hard push to reach the play-in.

And to be fair, some stuff is silly: Denver has the easiest schedule because they don't have to play themselves, so of course their opponents win share is lower.

Finally, the article went to publication with this error: instead of saying Myles Turner, he wrote "Myles Davis."

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At least he didn't write "Tina Turner"!
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Post#20 » by Pharaoh » Sat Aug 19, 2023 12:41 am

Snakebites wrote:
whitehops wrote:
Snakebites wrote:That same article states Boston has the most rest-advantaged days.

I categorically don’t believe things like lottery conspiracy theories in the NBA. I also don’t think the league as a I stitutio deliberately hands game outcomes to teams.

But I think cutting back on inequities like these is one of the ways they can give less oxygen to those types of theories.


scheduling isn't easy - i saw an insider article once on how the nba schedule is made and there are like over a million possibilities. then you have to factor in that the tv networks choose what games they show nationally which further handcuffs your options. then there is arena availability, since a bunch of teams share arenas with NHL teams and there are concerts. example: the pistons are scheduled to host the magic on february 24th at 8 PM. the red wings are scheduled to host the avalanche on february 24th... at 7 PM. the league also has to work around things like other events (super bowl, ncaa final, etc.). there's travel limitations too with the west coast time difference (think of the logistics having a game in POR and then a game in ORL the next day). i think the networks dictating the national tv schedule has the most impact but that's what brings the league so much money.

i used to work for a youth soccer league and even on that small scale it was tough to schedule things that worked for everyone or was perfectly balanced. i don't think the league has an agenda with scheduling when it comes to competitive advantage.

All I know is that we’re at or near the top in back to backs year after year. Regardless of intention it is systemic inequality.
Because we don't matter as a franchise.

I imagine the league and broadcasters do care about certain teams and their schedule but the majority of the league is irrelevant in the bigger picture.


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