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Post#1 » by MortSahlfan » Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:56 pm

Most fans want to fire him, citing w/l and what not...

Isiah Thomas would have been better, for drafting alone! Not to mention the buzz. He's a Piston. And he just said he's moving back to Detroit.
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Post#2 » by NYPiston » Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:03 pm

MortSahlfan wrote:
Isiah Thomas would have been better, for drafting alone! Not to mention the buzz. He's a Piston. And he just said he's moving back to Detroit.


You've got to be kidding.
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Post#3 » by MortSahlfan » Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:05 pm

NYPiston wrote:
MortSahlfan wrote:
Isiah Thomas would have been better, for drafting alone! Not to mention the buzz. He's a Piston. And he just said he's moving back to Detroit.


You've got to be kidding.


You sure know how to have a conversation!
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Post#4 » by Kalamazoo317 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:10 pm

Considering firing Weaver is a completely reasonable conversation at this point. Replacing him with Isiah Thomas is madness.
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Post#5 » by NYPiston » Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:30 pm

MortSahlfan wrote:
You sure know how to have a conversation!


Isiah is a horrendous executive. This shouldn't even be a conversation to consider bringing him in.
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Post#6 » by Billl » Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:57 pm

Meh. I think there is about a 0% shot of weaver getting canned this year. If it happens, it would be in the off season. i don't think that is particularly likely either though. I think he gets another year to try to put a winning product on the court.
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Re: Troy Weaver Trending On Twitter 

Post#7 » by Invictus88 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:03 pm

MortSahlfan wrote:
NYPiston wrote:
MortSahlfan wrote:
Isiah Thomas would have been better, for drafting alone! Not to mention the buzz. He's a Piston. And he just said he's moving back to Detroit.


You've got to be kidding.


You sure know how to have a conversation!


A conversation normally starts with someone introducing a topic worthy of discussion. Not utter nonsense.
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Re: Troy Weaver Trending On Twitter 

Post#8 » by mattao313 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:19 pm

I just want to know when is the guy gonna start building a winning team. We've been trash for 5 years and a bunch of top picks and all we got to show for it is probably one low end Allstar player(Cade) and I'm not even confident saying that.

I'd be more confident if we had just one bona-fide high end star.

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Post#9 » by Drwho17 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:11 pm

Billl wrote:Meh. I think there is about a 0% shot of weaver getting canned this year. If it happens, it would be in the off season. i don't think that is particularly likely either though. I think he gets another year to try to put a winning product on the court.

Definitely so, I'm pretty sure when he was hired, he layed out a plan to Gores and said it was going to take time. I think we should start seeing improvement this year though, but I don't believe he's under fire at this time. I think if the Pistons don't turn it around a bit and show improvement as the year goes on, then he will be under fire going into next year.
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Post#10 » by Kalamazoo317 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:38 pm

I think if the season continues this way there will be intense pressure coming from the fans
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Post#11 » by TPA » Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:06 pm

If Weaver gets fired, things could get really interesting. With a coach who's locked in for the better part of a decade, you'd better get a GM who can work with Williams.
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Post#12 » by theBigLip » Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:25 pm

I am sure Weaver is not going anywhere this year. Gores has bought into the plan. They got the best coach available. They decided NOT to overspend on average players last summer and roll their cap space forward. I’m pretty sure that will get used at the trade deadline or this summer. So next year will be the hot seat.

So it’s the same argument on this board for awhile. Some think we’re on the right path while others think Weaver is the worst GM in the league and should be fired today. I think we’re on the right path, need to be patient, and before the year is out (assuming no more excessive injuries), we will show improvement. We’ll still be in the lottery regardless.

Cade, Ivey, Thompson, Duren are all keepers. Stewart, Sassar and maybe Livers are too. That doesn’t mean none of them can’t be traded, but they are at a minimum rotation players on good contracts. That’s a start.

The biggest thing that will impact the success of the franchise is what we do with the cap space. This will also determine Weaver’s fate. We should be able to use it to get one or two starters by next summer. We’ll also get another high lottery pick. There is no reason for us not to be in the playoffs next year.

I know this start sucks. New coach, a few injuries, losing every close game. And it is understandable that everyone expected much more this year. But I’m willing to give Weaver the benefit of the doubt and give him at least one more year.
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Re: Troy Weaver Trending On Twitter 

Post#13 » by Absolutia » Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:29 pm

Firing Weaver at this point would be little more than gesture politics. What could a replacement do? Come up with some magical trade that bags us a superstar?

Our success was always predicated on the development of our youth and personally I think that our roster - when healthy - looks more than reasoanble at present, with a distinctly brighter future. I don't like how our coach is using it though.
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Post#14 » by MortSahlfan » Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:22 pm

Unless I know who the replacement is, I'd rather keep Weaver around just so he can see this through. Maybe Gores is thinking he should pay Sam Presti and pry him away and those fifteen 1st round picks. I constantly read his name tossed with 'cocaine' (and boinking his sister-in-law, court transcript), but I'm not sure who is great out there that Gores could bid for. We had Ed Stefanski in the interim as an adviser.

I don't see Monty being a GM, but if he's going to coach here for a long time, they should have similar philosophies. I'm just tired of losing.
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Post#15 » by ahike12 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:49 pm

Before I say this, I'm not sure who the answer is. But what if we landed a 4 who became our best player? Like this is where the cap space goes to? A trade is made with cap space as a filler? I feel like this team drastically changes. (Or maybe guys who aren't the best player but can at least be option #2. Thinking Tobias, Siakam, O.G.) Cade becomes the second option, a floor general who can score almost at will. Ivey progresses in his shot making ability a little bit, that becomes a different story, too. (1.5% improvement would put him at roughly 37% as he's just over 35% so far this season)

PG: Cade Cunningham (a PG who can score and facilitate, especially with shooters)
SG: Jaden Ivey (an athletic wing who can shoot, create a kick-out option for Cunningham)
SF: Ausar Thompson (even without offensive improvement, his defense is enough to keep him on the court. He's active, work those cuts to the hoop)
PF: whoever this may be (ideally someone who can shoot, so we, again, have someone for Cade to kick to)
C: Jalen Duren (an athletic monster who can defend and be there clean-ups on the offensive side)

Our bench consists of: Livers, Stew, Sasser, Morris, Burks, Bojan, Bagley III (I'm sure someone's gone out of here, but you get the gist)

I'm also a believer that this record isn't indicative of what our true potential is, which has been said before. Bojan would make a MASSIVE difference for Cade.

All of this to say, I'm on the "I'm a believer in the plan" group. I don't think it's all doom-and-gloom, but I also realize there's a bit of homerism in me. Also, 2 wins at this point isn't fun, either. So I also get that.
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Re: Troy Weaver Trending On Twitter 

Post#16 » by Mr Peanut » Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:49 pm

I'm sure Troy is internally being reassured that his job is safe. Management were on board with the rebuild from the start, so to turn around and fire him now would be strange.

But I think there is probably an agreement that this off-season is it, and he needs to go out and use the cap space on something substantial to build a team that is at least in the mix for the play-in next year. If not, then he's definitely gone.
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Re: Troy Weaver Trending On Twitter 

Post#17 » by MortSahlfan » Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:20 pm

I kept seeing 'Valenti' and thought it was a reference to Jack Valenti, who had no problem transitioning from Hollywood to the White House

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Post#18 » by vege » Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:57 pm

I think Valenti is am imbecile. But he is 100% correct in everything he said, which scares me.
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Post#19 » by smann7 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:07 pm

I didn’t think the Pistons would be good this year but not this bad.

I give Weaver credit for finally tearing everything down. The true tank didn’t start really until 2020 and we got Cade. We were just bad the year before and ended up at 7.

We have been “trying” to accumulate young talent the last few years and this is the first year of putting everything together to see what we have.

Im hopeful we can make some progress over the course of the season to give us some hope next year is the year we can compete for playoffs. If we can’t win 25 games this year then Weaver should be fired, although even then, I don’t think he will be.

I actually give Weaver credit for not making the big trade or free agent signing because I think it would be silly to do so before we see what Ivey, Cade, Duren and Assaur can do together.

Am I crazy? Sometimes I think I am. I’ve been a Pistons fans since about 89, I can’t stand what has happened to this once proud franchise but also trying not to be irrational about where this team is at development wise.
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Re: Troy Weaver Trending On Twitter 

Post#20 » by MortSahlfan » Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:14 pm

vege wrote:I think Valenti is am imbecile. But he is 100% correct in everything he said, which scares me.


I never heard of him before (I never watched anything until today) but he looks like the White Monty Williams :)

I also didn't expect us to be good, but if we won 3-5 games every succeeding season, I could at least say, "We have something here".. We need veterans. We need guys who can already play. Potential doesn't score. And it's possible the pieces don't mix. How worse can we get? We get Monty and then our big move is to get ... Joe Harris? ANOTHER guy who can't play defense? Not only did we get Bagley (Kings knew better) but re-signed one of the worst big men defenders and Ivey is that equivalent for guards, and it's obvious Monty is not a fan, even with all our injuries.

I've been watching since 88, but it's the only sport I watch, so I'm going down with the ship.

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