Game 30: Pistons vs. Nets 7PM EST

MortSahlfan · Post #1 » by **MortSahlfan** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 9:19 am

Hayes, Duren, Stew are all PROBABLE

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The Moose · Post #2 » by **The Moose** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:02 am

Infamy on the line

MortSahlfan · Post #3 » by **MortSahlfan** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:41 am

The Moose wrote:Infamy on the line

Hi Moose. Did you ever post on Pistons.com? There was "Moose Guy" who had the funniest game thread intros.

The Moose · Post #4 » by **The Moose** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:02 pm

MortSahlfan wrote:
The Moose wrote:Infamy on the line

Hi Moose. Did you ever post on Pistons.com? There was "Moose Guy" who had the funniest game thread intros.

nope, not me sorry

MortSahlfan · Post #5 » by **MortSahlfan** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:57 pm

I'm hoping we beat everyone else and pull of a good trade before Jan 15th (when everyone is able to be traded)

BadMofoPimp · Post #6 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 3:18 pm

Pistons must win!

whitehops · Post #7 » by **whitehops** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 3:49 pm

good news: duren is back.
bad news: it looks like stewart is starting beside him.

whitehops · Post #8 » by **whitehops** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 4:02 pm

also - i'm hoping the guys spending christmas with their families gave them a chance to kind of reset. taking their mind of the game for a couple days *hopefully* helps morale.

and hopefully none of them had a drunk uncle that just made fun of how **** the team was all night.

MortSahlfan · Post #9 » by **MortSahlfan** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 4:12 pm

whitehops wrote:good news: duren is back.
bad news: it looks like stewart is starting beside him.

I really hope they'd have him backup at the 5. I wish they'd try

Cade
Ivey
Ausar
Bojan
Duren

Duren's big enough that Bojan's lack of size makes up, but also, a bigger guy to guard means less lateral speed he needs, and he needs to score. If a guy is struggling, send them to the bench. I really don't wanna see Joe Harris or Burks, and would rather have Livers, who at least keeps the ball moving. A "glue" guy on both ends, but never makes much of an impact, but he doesn't make too many mistakes. Harris and Burks aren't even shooting, so they're just hurting the team in every way.. Between Bagley and Wiseman, I go with whoever is playing better. When you lose this much, you SHOULD experiment.

bstein14 · Post #10 » by **bstein14** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 4:54 pm

whitehops wrote:good news: duren is back.
bad news: it looks like stewart is starting beside him.

Cade + Bojan + Ausar + Stew + Duren

This lineup works well for us if we dominate the paint battle, win the rebounding battle big time, and go HAM on defense. If we're just out there going through the normal day to day motions you have to drop Ausar from this lineup and put in another shooter (or at least Ivey.

I do think that has potential to be our best 5 man unit if Ausar can start shooting threes at even 30% and if we dominate the rebounding battle and go HAM defenisvely... if not there's just not enough offense.

Canadafan · Post #11 » by **Canadafan** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 4:56 pm

whitehops wrote:also - i'm hoping the guys spending christmas with their families gave them a chance to kind of reset. taking their mind of the game for a couple days *hopefully* helps morale.

and hopefully none of them had a drunk uncle that just made fun of how **** the team was all night.

Lmao I thought the same thing. These poor kids being mocked by family :lol:

whitehops · Post #12 » by **whitehops** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 5:40 pm

bstein14 wrote:Cade + Bojan + Ausar + Stew + Duren

This lineup works well for us if we dominate the paint battle, win the rebounding battle big time, and go HAM on defense. If we're just out there going through the normal day to day motions you have to drop Ausar from this lineup and put in another shooter (or at least Ivey.

I do think that has potential to be our best 5 man unit if Ausar can start shooting threes at even 30% and if we dominate the rebounding battle and go HAM defenisvely... if not there's just not enough offense.

i think that lineup gives us next to no ball handling, shooting and no spacing, a pretty bad combo. running pick and roll pretty much isn't viable and 3/5 guys can't create their own offense. it's hard to win the paint battle if you can't get to the paint because it's packed.

WoyTreaver · Post #13 » by **WoyTreaver** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 5:47 pm

Prediction: the team who makes the most three pointers wins.

I have a pretty good idea who that’s going to be……

whitehops · Post #14 » by **whitehops** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 5:54 pm

interesting - early shootaround vids had duren with a starter jersey on for warmups but more recent ones have him with no jersey at all. the new blue jersey "starters" are:

cade
ivey
livers
bojan
stewart

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MortSahlfan · Post #15 » by **MortSahlfan** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 6:10 pm

Our guys have to score more in the paint.

vege · Post #16 » by **vege** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 6:27 pm

whitehops wrote:interesting - early shootaround vids had duren with a starter jersey on for warmups but more recent ones have him with no jersey at all. the new blue jersey "starters" are:

cade
ivey
livers
bojan
stewart

Read on Twitter

Livers? WTF. He is the statistically worst player in the NBA and he is starting for us?

MortSahlfan · Post #17 » by **MortSahlfan** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:42 pm

Livers is a good guy, and I thought if healthy he might be that two-way bench player we need, but he isn't... But to start? Over who? Ausar seems to play better in the starting line-up, where he's given some more space, and easy passes for dunks/oops from Cade.

I'd like to see Monty throw some more zone once in a while, just to throw a team off for a bit.

Post #18 » by **Snakebites** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:00 pm

whitehops wrote:good news: duren is back.
bad news: it looks like stewart is starting beside him.

I mean, it's not like the smaller lineup produced better results.

But yeah, I hate watching Stewart at the 4.

MortSahlfan · Post #19 » by **MortSahlfan** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:12 pm

Another reason we're not maximizing results. We don't use guys to their advantage. Casey said it last year. "We believe Stew is further along" (than Bagley, Wiseman, Duren). In Stew's first few years, he shot 50%, scored inside. Put pressure on defense, instead of letting them kick back and watch guys brick open 3's. There's a reason teams leave us open. We haven't made any trades, so Monty needs to ... .5 offense, whatever that means. I don't think he knows. "Well, our guys can't do that, so just ....." ?

And some of you think Isiah Thomas as GM would hurt this team? He's a great drafter. That's probably the one thing Gores won't do, even though it's something I thought he would do. Maybe "ace up his nose" card? A way to make fans happy? I don't see Isiah being worse than Weaver.

DBC10 · Post #20 » by **DBC10** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 9:47 pm

MortSahlfan wrote:Livers is a good guy, and I thought if healthy he might be that two-way bench player we need, but he isn't... But to start? Over who? Ausar seems to play better in the starting line-up, where he's given some more space, and easy passes for dunks/oops from Cade.

I'd like to see Monty throw some more zone once in a while, just to throw a team off for a bit.

If Livers is indeed starting then it just adds to the idea Monty is not using his best lineups and doesn't like playing younger guys for some reason. His stubbornness in going to guys like Hayes & Livers is malpractice

Ausar and even Sasser (for going small & nimble) are right there to fully utilize... His insistence on running Stew and Duren is mind-boggling. It doesn't work in this NBA, period