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Must be going to the front office to be a “Piston for life”

Killian Hayes lives to see another day.

Good riddance

bstein14 wrote:Killian Hayes lives to see another day.

Let’s remain hopeful. There’s still 2 hours to dump him and wiseman.

So for the people on the first day of free agency that tried to justify this acquisition, wtf are your thoughts now? Sin eat sin eat sin eat!!! Pfffft.

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DetroitSho wrote:So for the people on the first day of free agency that tried to justify this acquisition, wtf are your thoughts now? Sin eat sin eat sin eat!!! Pfffft.

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I defended it and oh man i didn't know he was that cooked

MotownMadness wrote:

DetroitSho wrote:So for the people on the first day of free agency that tried to justify this acquisition, wtf are your thoughts now? Sin eat sin eat sin eat!!! Pfffft.

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I defended it and oh man i didn't know he was that cooked

The acquisition itself was a 2. The TIMING was a NEGATIVE 10. Especially if it never was apart of some later deal down the line.

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DetroitSho wrote:

MotownMadness wrote:

DetroitSho wrote:So for the people on the first day of free agency that tried to justify this acquisition, wtf are your thoughts now? Sin eat sin eat sin eat!!! Pfffft.

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I defended it and oh man i didn't know he was that cooked

The acquisition itself was a 2. The TIMING was a NEGATIVE 10. Especially if it never was apart of some later deal down the line.

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Not sure what i was thinking but i also didn't expect FA to be this bad punting the cap. Thought he would at least be a 10 ppg sniper or something as well.

MotownMadness wrote:

DetroitSho wrote:

MotownMadness wrote:I defended it and oh man i didn't know he was that cooked

The acquisition itself was a 2. The TIMING was a NEGATIVE 10. Especially if it never was apart of some later deal down the line.

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Not sure what i was thinking but i also didn't expect FA to be this bad punting the cap. Thought he would at least be a 10 ppg sniper or something as well.

He certainly had a track record of being a good shooter. Eventually all players ho downhill. We got lucky w Bojan. Not so much w Harris.

That Joe Harris transaction and all the angles involved with it, was an all timer of terribleness.

Weaver essentially bought two 2nd rounders for $20 million dollars of actual money. Then add onto it that it burned a HUGE amount of cap space, so it dramatically distressed an asset. The add on top of it Troy did Brooklyn a MASSIVE favor for essentially no real reason. Then consider all of this was done BEFORE free agency even started.

MotownMadness wrote:

DetroitSho wrote:

MotownMadness wrote:I defended it and oh man i didn't know he was that cooked

The acquisition itself was a 2. The TIMING was a NEGATIVE 10. Especially if it never was apart of some later deal down the line.

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Not sure what i was thinking but i also didn't expect FA to be this bad punting the cap. Thought he would at least be a 10 ppg sniper or something as well.

I've never been on the punt the capspace plan. It's been an utter disaster and I feel like it wastes years of your players' development just bringing in bodies for their contract and compensation, why they do nothing for you on the court. And that's IF you do it right and get decent compensation. We wasn't even getting good comp so it has helped us not one single bit.

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Paid $20 million for two 2nd rounders... I know it helped us get to the cap floor, but we almost certainly could have signed 2 or 3 bargain/value FAs that had a non guaranteed 2nd year so they essentially would have also been expiring deals.

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GreekAlex wrote:

bstein14 wrote:Killian Hayes lives to see another day.

Let’s remain hopeful. There’s still 2 hours to dump him and wiseman.

Peace out Killian!

Wiseman is such an oddity... He has the type of natural talent that he could still get it together. I am glad we kept him.

bstein14 wrote:Paid $20 million for two 2nd rounders... I know it helped us get to the cap floor, but we almost certainly could have signed 2 or 3 bargain/value FAs that had a non guaranteed 2nd year so they essentially would have also been expiring deals.

Secondary to your over all point which I agree with, but I'm not sure why the cap floor seems to carry as much concern as it does.

Unless there is a change in the new CBA that I'm not currently aware of, the only penalty for not reaching the floor is you have to give players on your team pro-rated bonuses equivalent to the deviation from the floor. Which isn't exactly a scary punishment.

thesack12 wrote:

bstein14 wrote:Paid $20 million for two 2nd rounders... I know it helped us get to the cap floor, but we almost certainly could have signed 2 or 3 bargain/value FAs that had a non guaranteed 2nd year so they essentially would have also been expiring deals.

Eh, I'm not sure why the cap floor carries as much concern as it does.

Unless there is a change in the new CBA that I'm not currently aware of, the only penalty for not reaching the floor is you have to give players on your team pro-rated bonuses equivalent to the floor deviation. Which isn't exactly a scary punishment.

It’s horrible for flexibility. You don’t have salary ballasts to make trades with.

thesack12 wrote:

bstein14 wrote:Paid $20 million for two 2nd rounders... I know it helped us get to the cap floor, but we almost certainly could have signed 2 or 3 bargain/value FAs that had a non guaranteed 2nd year so they essentially would have also been expiring deals.

Secondary to your over all point which I agree with, but I'm not sure why the cap floor seems to carry as much concern as it does.

Unless there is a change in the new CBA that I'm not currently aware of, the only penalty for not reaching the floor is you have to give players on your team pro-rated bonuses equivalent to the floor deviation. Which isn't exactly a scary punishment.

That's how it work. And we could've signed Knox for a 5 or 10m deal 1 year non guaranteed for example or just give money to a scrub out of the street to reach the floor.

GreekAlex wrote:

thesack12 wrote:

bstein14 wrote:Paid $20 million for two 2nd rounders... I know it helped us get to the cap floor, but we almost certainly could have signed 2 or 3 bargain/value FAs that had a non guaranteed 2nd year so they essentially would have also been expiring deals.

Eh, I'm not sure why the cap floor carries as much concern as it does.

Unless there is a change in the new CBA that I'm not currently aware of, the only penalty for not reaching the floor is you have to give players on your team pro-rated bonuses equivalent to the floor deviation. Which isn't exactly a scary punishment.

It’s horrible for flexibility. You don’t have salary ballasts to make trades with.

Why can't you just use the cap space? It doesn't disappear

GreekAlex wrote:

thesack12 wrote:

bstein14 wrote:Paid $20 million for two 2nd rounders... I know it helped us get to the cap floor, but we almost certainly could have signed 2 or 3 bargain/value FAs that had a non guaranteed 2nd year so they essentially would have also been expiring deals.

Eh, I'm not sure why the cap floor carries as much concern as it does.

Unless there is a change in the new CBA that I'm not currently aware of, the only penalty for not reaching the floor is you have to give players on your team pro-rated bonuses equivalent to the floor deviation. Which isn't exactly a scary punishment.

It’s horrible for flexibility. You don’t have salary ballasts to make trades with.

YOU HAVE RAW CAP SPACE which is 10x more valuable.

DetroitSho wrote:

MotownMadness wrote:

DetroitSho wrote:So for the people on the first day of free agency that tried to justify this acquisition, wtf are your thoughts now? Sin eat sin eat sin eat!!! Pfffft.

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I defended it and oh man i didn't know he was that cooked

The acquisition itself was a 2. The TIMING was a NEGATIVE 10. Especially if it never was apart of some later deal down the line.

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Literally the only thing this acquisition did was neuter our ability to go after Cam Johnson and enabled the Nets to do the same. Complete head-scratcher.