What to do with our remaining cap space
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What to do with our remaining cap space
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What to do with our remaining cap space
After signing Beasley we have roughly 20 million in cap space and an 8 million dollar exception. What do we do with the rest of our off season?
Current roster
Cade/sasser
Ivey/THJ
Beasley/Holland/Thompson who knows who’s gonna start
Harris/fontochio(assuming he resigns)/klintman
Duren/stewart
To me I could see a trade coming. I know Beasley is only signed for a year but neither Holland or Thompson have shown the ability to shoot at any level. I really would try and put together some kinda package involving Ivy,Thompson, and future picks for a quality all star 2 who’s a lights out shooter.
I’d love to see them take a chunk of there cap space and get Tyus Jones to back up Cade. Maybe the best back up point guard in the nba. He also shoots 41% from 3. Cade has never stayed healthy so as much as people like Sasser this gives us a legit starter to hold down the point when cades hurt.
If you don’t resign Fontochio u have Stewart back up the 4 and u sign a back up center with some cap space. There are several back up bigs who could be used here.
What would others like to see happen with our cap space?
Current roster
Cade/sasser
Ivey/THJ
Beasley/Holland/Thompson who knows who’s gonna start
Harris/fontochio(assuming he resigns)/klintman
Duren/stewart
To me I could see a trade coming. I know Beasley is only signed for a year but neither Holland or Thompson have shown the ability to shoot at any level. I really would try and put together some kinda package involving Ivy,Thompson, and future picks for a quality all star 2 who’s a lights out shooter.
I’d love to see them take a chunk of there cap space and get Tyus Jones to back up Cade. Maybe the best back up point guard in the nba. He also shoots 41% from 3. Cade has never stayed healthy so as much as people like Sasser this gives us a legit starter to hold down the point when cades hurt.
If you don’t resign Fontochio u have Stewart back up the 4 and u sign a back up center with some cap space. There are several back up bigs who could be used here.
What would others like to see happen with our cap space?
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Vet backups at center and point guard and "sin eating" a contract or two sounds fine to me. I'm at the point where unless we get a fairly young potential all-star in return, I'd rather see what we have with the young guys on a team with better spacing and (hopefully) competent coaching then rush to move any of them.
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It's very possible we still have $25 million in cap space and will simply use part of the room exception to sign Beasley. It makes more sense to preserve our cap space.
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Utah is very heavy at SF/PF spots and need quality guards.
Assuming they decide to keep Lauri, is there any way they might consider THJ with some 2nd rounders for Taylor Hendricks?
Assuming they decide to keep Lauri, is there any way they might consider THJ with some 2nd rounders for Taylor Hendricks?
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Piston Pete wrote:Utah is very heavy at SF/PF spots and need quality guards.
Assuming they decide to keep Lauri, is there any way they might consider THJ with some 2nd rounders for Taylor Hendricks?
They would not.
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If I were the pistons I wouldn’t just assume Lauri is off the table. I’d offer them Tobias, Ivy, Asur, and firsts for him. He’s exactly the player we need. A floor spacing big, an all star caliber player. What he does isn’t easy to come by.
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Lauri will cost us Duren, Ivey, and Ausar at a MIN
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Horace6766 wrote:If I were the pistons I wouldn’t just assume Lauri is off the table. I’d offer them Tobias, Ivy, Asur, and firsts for him. He’s exactly the player we need. A floor spacing big, an all star caliber player. What he does isn’t easy to come by.
1) We just signed Tobias. He can’t be traded until December.
2) It would be incredibly short sighted to trade away multiple picks and young players for a guy who could and likely will depart in free agency after one season in Detroit.
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He’s worth waiting for December for I think. Or reshape the trade a little bit if they wanted say Ivey, Thompson, and Stewart plus picks. I think it goes without saying you don’t make the trade unless he agrees to a max new deal. I agree with you that you don’t make the trade unless he signs. Or any trade if that caliber.
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If we're not gonna sign my guy lol then we could take on Harrison Barnes or Huerter in the Demar 3way. Sign Paul Reed. Maybe find a vetPG somewhere
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Horace6766 wrote:He’s worth waiting for December for I think. Or reshape the trade a little bit if they wanted say Ivey, Thompson, and Stewart plus picks. I think it goes without saying you don’t make the trade unless he agrees to a max new deal. I agree with you that you don’t make the trade unless he signs. Or any trade if that caliber.
That doesn’t go without saying because it won’t happen.
He has no incentive to agree to an extension with us that he can get with another team, let alone agree to it without playing a single game for us.
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U never know till u try. A lot of players agree early out of injury fear. If it worked great if it didn’t u don’t make the trade. I agree a back up point guard should be priority. Ty jones is that answer in my opinion.
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If we could get Huerter back in a 3 way I’d be game for that.
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TL has the job to decide what direction he wants to go.
1) does he want to go for broke and spend all our cap space? We can try to become a play-in team and sign Tyus Jones, a 3rd C and Tek? We could be somewhere in that (best-case scenario) 7-10 seed in the East. But is that what’s best for us long-term? Maybe?
2) does he save cap space for the future and stop after signing a 3rd C and Tek? Best-case scenario, we might be in that 8-11 seed in the East range? Better, but likely still out of the playoffs. This is the ‘try to get another lottery pick next season while maintaining cap flexibility’ route. Is this what’s best for us long-term? Maybe?
3) does he blow up some of our youth and package some of them for a STAR? This is where we’d package multiple guys for a Lauri, or Ingram, or other star-type guy. Is something like this what’s best for us long-term? Maybe?
1) does he want to go for broke and spend all our cap space? We can try to become a play-in team and sign Tyus Jones, a 3rd C and Tek? We could be somewhere in that (best-case scenario) 7-10 seed in the East. But is that what’s best for us long-term? Maybe?
2) does he save cap space for the future and stop after signing a 3rd C and Tek? Best-case scenario, we might be in that 8-11 seed in the East range? Better, but likely still out of the playoffs. This is the ‘try to get another lottery pick next season while maintaining cap flexibility’ route. Is this what’s best for us long-term? Maybe?
3) does he blow up some of our youth and package some of them for a STAR? This is where we’d package multiple guys for a Lauri, or Ingram, or other star-type guy. Is something like this what’s best for us long-term? Maybe?
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Gotta thing signing Beasley after focusing on trades with salary dumps for assets means that trade market is cold.
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It’s a tough choice as to what’s best for the future.
The biggest Issue the gm faces is the pistons haven’t drafted anyone who can shoot in a very long time. Stewart has turned himself into a decent shooter for his position but that’s it. Cade, Ivey, Duren, Thompson and now Holland none of them are great or even good shooters from deep. If we can package a few of them and a pick or 2 for an all star who shoots to put around Cade that will help. That’s why I like Lauri or a high end shooting 2 guard.
The second biggest issue we face is the pistons have signed a high end free agent in forever. Your only path to a star is draft or trade and we’ve had bad luck in the lottery and just drafted the wrong people to many times.
So as much as tank for Flagg or one of the elite prospects sounds good for the long term plan there’s no guarantee we even get a shot at drafting them. I think it’s time for a move forward.
The biggest Issue the gm faces is the pistons haven’t drafted anyone who can shoot in a very long time. Stewart has turned himself into a decent shooter for his position but that’s it. Cade, Ivey, Duren, Thompson and now Holland none of them are great or even good shooters from deep. If we can package a few of them and a pick or 2 for an all star who shoots to put around Cade that will help. That’s why I like Lauri or a high end shooting 2 guard.
The second biggest issue we face is the pistons have signed a high end free agent in forever. Your only path to a star is draft or trade and we’ve had bad luck in the lottery and just drafted the wrong people to many times.
So as much as tank for Flagg or one of the elite prospects sounds good for the long term plan there’s no guarantee we even get a shot at drafting them. I think it’s time for a move forward.
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Horace6766 wrote:It’s a tough choice as to what’s best for the future.
The biggest Issue the gm faces is the pistons haven’t drafted anyone who can shoot in a very long time. Stewart has turned himself into a decent shooter for his position but that’s it. Cade, Ivey, Duren, Thompson and now Holland none of them are great or even good shooters from deep. If we can package a few of them and a pick or 2 for an all star who shoots to put around Cade that will help. That’s why I like Lauri or a high end shooting 2 guard.
The second biggest issue we face is the pistons have signed a high end free agent in forever. Your only path to a star is draft or trade and we’ve had bad luck in the lottery and just drafted the wrong people to many times.
So as much as tank for Flagg or one of the elite prospects sounds good for the long term plan there’s no guarantee we even get a shot at drafting them. I think it’s time for a move forward.
Lauri will go to some playoff team for a haul of picks
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Does Atlanta consider De'Andre Hunter a negative asset due to his $20 million/year contract? I'd be all over that. What would it take?
He reportedly thrived last year as a backup 4.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5350181/2024/03/18/deandre-hunter-atlanta-hawks-nba/
He reportedly thrived last year as a backup 4.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5350181/2024/03/18/deandre-hunter-atlanta-hawks-nba/
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I'm still wondering if we'll bring in any players capable of playing any defense at all. We've got the same kind of issues that a healthy version of the Pistons team last year had in that basically none of the veterans play any defense. Tobias probably being the closest and he's below average on that end.
I really wish we had ONE decent veteran (that can actually see the floor) that can go out there and hold guys accountable on that end of the floor. Teach them how to communicate, etc. Burks/Bojan weren't capable of that and guys like THJ and Beasley follow right in their footsteps.
I would prioritize defense just as much as shooting for this offseason but we seem to be going totally in one direction, at the expense of the other.
I really wish we had ONE decent veteran (that can actually see the floor) that can go out there and hold guys accountable on that end of the floor. Teach them how to communicate, etc. Burks/Bojan weren't capable of that and guys like THJ and Beasley follow right in their footsteps.
I would prioritize defense just as much as shooting for this offseason but we seem to be going totally in one direction, at the expense of the other.
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Huerter doesn't seem likely with adding Malik & THJ.
Guessing Harrison Barnes or Tucker coming back?
My pipe dream of absorbing Duncan Robinson seems dead with the guards we've added.
Not seeing a vet C on either Roster to take on.
Guessing Harrison Barnes or Tucker coming back?
My pipe dream of absorbing Duncan Robinson seems dead with the guards we've added.
Not seeing a vet C on either Roster to take on.