Excitement meter. Let's see where we are at.
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Excitement meter. Let's see where we are at.
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Excitement meter. Let's see where we are at.
This is NOT a thread about the teams record this season, directly. This is a thread about the level of excitement upon entering the season, in terms of will this team finally turn a damn corner and play real, competitive basketball.
My excitement stems from Cade having an actual shooting based team around him, with athletes for lobs.
Last month of nothingness before the preseason starts in early October. Where you at?
My excitement stems from Cade having an actual shooting based team around him, with athletes for lobs.
Last month of nothingness before the preseason starts in early October. Where you at?
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I'd say 5-6. The Pistons have improved from historically awful to just generically awful IMO, but it's still going to take some time to clean up Troy Weaver's mess. This is assuming Langdon's regime is capable, which it seems to be, but I was OK with Weaver's first two years, so what the hell do I know.
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The team is going to be bad still. Hopefully not historically bad, but we are going to play a lot of young guys minutes. I don't see any realistic path to being a playin team.
My actual excitement is somewhere around a 10 though and I can't wait for the season to start. The pistons may suck, but it's still the pistons.
My actual excitement is somewhere around a 10 though and I can't wait for the season to start. The pistons may suck, but it's still the pistons.
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Bad poll. I am excited to see the Pistons play and develop. I'm excited to see if we finally have a coach that cares. Neither of these are tied to win output or playoff progression.
In fact, if you are tying your excitement level to the above metrics then I feel sorry for all of your pain this last decade and pain for the upcoming season. We aren't there yet and you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
In fact, if you are tying your excitement level to the above metrics then I feel sorry for all of your pain this last decade and pain for the upcoming season. We aren't there yet and you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
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I'm hopeful we'll be better, but can only see 25-30 total wins which is bad by most metrics. The bottom of the East is looking like a bit of a tankfest though so who knows.
If we see a healthy Cade who takes another step, Ivey able to share a functional backcourt with him, Duren play some defense and Ausar looking like he can at least be a mediocre corner three point shooter than I'd consider the season a success.
If we see a healthy Cade who takes another step, Ivey able to share a functional backcourt with him, Duren play some defense and Ausar looking like he can at least be a mediocre corner three point shooter than I'd consider the season a success.
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Excited is much too strong of a word to use, but my interest level in the team increased after Weaver got canned.
It didn't take long for it to plummet back down again, with them deciding to do such a short sighted, haphazard coaching "search." Bickerstaff is an incredibly uninspiring hire, which is very on brand for the Pistons. That's not to say that the coaching won't be improved this season, but lets be real here that bar couldn't possibly be any lower.
Ron Holland doesn't really do much for me as a prospect, and none of the other acquisitions move the needle for me either. Again, I'm not saying that the talent base isn't improved nor that some of the offseason moves weren't solid. Just mentioning that the current overall outlook of the team has not persuaded me to feel like I should pay more attention to them than I have in recent seasons.
It didn't take long for it to plummet back down again, with them deciding to do such a short sighted, haphazard coaching "search." Bickerstaff is an incredibly uninspiring hire, which is very on brand for the Pistons. That's not to say that the coaching won't be improved this season, but lets be real here that bar couldn't possibly be any lower.
Ron Holland doesn't really do much for me as a prospect, and none of the other acquisitions move the needle for me either. Again, I'm not saying that the talent base isn't improved nor that some of the offseason moves weren't solid. Just mentioning that the current overall outlook of the team has not persuaded me to feel like I should pay more attention to them than I have in recent seasons.
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Ya. A meh for me. Little better. Pretty underwhelming offseason but at least Cade will have a few shooters to help out and not ruin the poor kids career completely.
I'll blindly cheer as I always do and most likely will be wanting a trade at the deadline yet again since we will be out of the playoff race likely.
Guess there's not much to do but hope our young core make some nice steps forward and we hopefully land a guy in the lottery next year that can be cades equal or better. Cause that's the only way outta this mess.
I'll blindly cheer as I always do and most likely will be wanting a trade at the deadline yet again since we will be out of the playoff race likely.
Guess there's not much to do but hope our young core make some nice steps forward and we hopefully land a guy in the lottery next year that can be cades equal or better. Cause that's the only way outta this mess.
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I'll believe improvement when I see it at this point.
This team hasn't earned anything more than that from anyone.
We added a couple of okay guys but no real needle movers. We're still going to be very heavily reliant on internal improvement to actually see a noteworthy change in the win column.
Still here. Still supporting them. But getting out there and saying they're gonna be notably better for any fan IMO is like Charlie Brown charging at the football really hoping Lucy doesn't pull it out of the way at the last second THIS time.
This team hasn't earned anything more than that from anyone.
We added a couple of okay guys but no real needle movers. We're still going to be very heavily reliant on internal improvement to actually see a noteworthy change in the win column.
Still here. Still supporting them. But getting out there and saying they're gonna be notably better for any fan IMO is like Charlie Brown charging at the football really hoping Lucy doesn't pull it out of the way at the last second THIS time.
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i voted 9-10, not because i think we're going to make the playoffs this year but because i'm that excited that we're going to try to compete now.
it'll be a breath of fresh air not having to watch players like hayes, wiseman, etc. try to win games.
it'll be a breath of fresh air not having to watch players like hayes, wiseman, etc. try to win games.
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I'm pretty excited to see how he season goes but I don't think we'll reach the play in.
I'm really just looking forward to seeing how cade and the other young guys play now that the roster is a little more balanced.
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I'm really just looking forward to seeing how cade and the other young guys play now that the roster is a little more balanced.
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Adding the 3pt shooting of Tobias, Beasley, Hardaway and having Tek for a whole season, I suspect were going to be a far more potent offense with the spacing improved for Cade and Ivey to playmake.
We are improved. I really want to see heavy minutes of a Tek, Tobias, Duren Front court. That FC with Cade and one of Beasley/Hardaway/Sasser provides a decent 3pt shooter at every non-Center position.
Whens the last time anyone remembers having spacing available like that in Detroit?
Cade, Ivey and Duren should all improve with the shooting weve added.
We are improved. I really want to see heavy minutes of a Tek, Tobias, Duren Front court. That FC with Cade and one of Beasley/Hardaway/Sasser provides a decent 3pt shooter at every non-Center position.
Whens the last time anyone remembers having spacing available like that in Detroit?
Cade, Ivey and Duren should all improve with the shooting weve added.
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Yippie-ki-yay, mother-may-I?
I want to be excited but not sure I should be.
I want to be excited but not sure I should be.
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Im always ready for some ball but not expecting much
They kinda doubled down on the core 4 when i don't think there's a fit
They kinda doubled down on the core 4 when i don't think there's a fit
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I'm always excited to see the season come. Can't say I have any major expectations other than feeling positive about the added shooting. It's a young team, so holding some hope for improvement isn't wildly irrational. Go Pistons!
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Excited isn't the word I'd use. Not sure of the right one though.
After Joe, SVG & Weaver I'm still supposed to be patient and give the new FO time to build something...
They've beaten the interest level out of me
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After Joe, SVG & Weaver I'm still supposed to be patient and give the new FO time to build something...
They've beaten the interest level out of me
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MotownMadness wrote:Im always ready for some ball but not expecting much
They kinda doubled down on the core 4 when i don't think there's a fit
I feel like it was more of a case of Langdon wanting to see what the core 4 could do surrounded by shooters and with functional coaching before calling time on them. If the fit is still not right I expect the core 4 to be broken up by the deadline with at least one of them being shipped out.
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I think we will be immensely better team, but we only won 14 games, so winning 28 is actually a big improvement.
High end year. Tobias ages like wine in Detroit, Duran and Ivey make improvements on both ends. Simone and Ausar powers combine put up 30p, 15 RB avg. Then Cade continues improving, I think we fight our way into the play in.
Otherwise we’re a bottom 5 team again, but still a way better team than last season.
High end year. Tobias ages like wine in Detroit, Duran and Ivey make improvements on both ends. Simone and Ausar powers combine put up 30p, 15 RB avg. Then Cade continues improving, I think we fight our way into the play in.
Otherwise we’re a bottom 5 team again, but still a way better team than last season.
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I'm probably a little more optimistic than most.
To me, I don't see why this team can't push for a play in. Yes, we only won 14 games last year, but I keep thinking of games against the Heat, Magic, Knicks and even Celtics (to a lesser degree) where we one or two things change and we win the game. These are some of the best teams in the East and we stayed with them to the last minute/last shot of games. We did this with the roster we had last season and with the coaching staff we had last season.
My hope is that last season was a bit of an anomaly, because the streak took on a power of its own and had an effect on the young team. With an improved roster, spacing and enthusiastic coaching, I feel the sky is the limit.
I could also be crazy......
To me, I don't see why this team can't push for a play in. Yes, we only won 14 games last year, but I keep thinking of games against the Heat, Magic, Knicks and even Celtics (to a lesser degree) where we one or two things change and we win the game. These are some of the best teams in the East and we stayed with them to the last minute/last shot of games. We did this with the roster we had last season and with the coaching staff we had last season.
My hope is that last season was a bit of an anomaly, because the streak took on a power of its own and had an effect on the young team. With an improved roster, spacing and enthusiastic coaching, I feel the sky is the limit.
I could also be crazy......
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dezzie_33 wrote:I'm probably a little more optimistic than most.
To me, I don't see why this team can't push for a play in. Yes, we only won 14 games last year, but I keep thinking of games against the Heat, Magic, Knicks and even Celtics (to a lesser degree) where we one or two things change and we win the game. These are some of the best teams in the East and we stayed with them to the last minute/last shot of games. We did this with the roster we had last season and with the coaching staff we had last season.
My hope is that last season was a bit of an anomaly, because the streak took on a power of its own and had an effect on the young team. With an improved roster, spacing and enthusiastic coaching, I feel the sky is the limit.
I could also be crazy......
I'm normally right there with you. Overly optimistic/a little crazy. I refuse to get my hopes up this year. Especially when we left so much money on the table this summer which could have been used to upgrade this team. Pretty obvious the front office is shooting for another shot at the lottery
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My excitement is the lowest it's been since the Pistons were stuck in treadmill territory prior to the Weaver hire.
I'm kind of done with being excited about young players, I'm ready to see it actually translate into real development and success of which we've seen pretty much nothing of the last 4 years. None of the guys they've added or drafted really move the needle for me so I'm in the "show me" phase. Of course, I'll get a little more excited as the season nears because new seasons always bring some level of anticipation but right now I'm kind of "meh" to it all.
Part of it too is that my other 3 favorite teams as you see in my profile are all serious contenders so the Pistons are sort of an afterthought for me tbh.
I'm kind of done with being excited about young players, I'm ready to see it actually translate into real development and success of which we've seen pretty much nothing of the last 4 years. None of the guys they've added or drafted really move the needle for me so I'm in the "show me" phase. Of course, I'll get a little more excited as the season nears because new seasons always bring some level of anticipation but right now I'm kind of "meh" to it all.
Part of it too is that my other 3 favorite teams as you see in my profile are all serious contenders so the Pistons are sort of an afterthought for me tbh.