The Pistons could regret their biggest offseason move

[Rip32]

https://pistonpowered.com/detroit-pistons-could-regret-their-biggest-offseason-move

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[Crymson]

This writer either lacks a basic understanding the realities of rookie extensions for high-profile players or is pretending he doesn't understand for the sake of engagement.

Either way, it's a bad article. Yes, it's a risk. No, it's not out of the ordinary in any way.

[hoophabit]

Kellerstrass is a rather good writer in my opinion. I suppose it's gratuitous to review what potential disaster looks like for the Cade extension. Still, he admits the Pistons had little real choice but to extend Cade and hope his "oft injured" history is resolved. I think he's Just another Pistons fan resentful of the team's recent futility.

[the_l_train]

Pistons biggest offseason move was **** canning Monty.

The article is just moronic. Waste of time, but he got me to click it so good job I guess.

[MotownMadness]

Could regret it but i think he'll produce enough to hold value

[chrbal]

It’s a lot of money, but he wasn’t interested in coaching the Pistons and we should’ve never pursued him that recklessly

[mattao313]

I still don't understand why we didn't just wait a year it was no need to extend him imo

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[Uncle Mxy]

He better start strong, damnit! Waiting two months for him to warm up (or get hurt) is unacceptable.

[jaredtyshaf]

Even if Cade doesn’t become “elite” it was the right decision. It’s our only shot at having a franchise player. Unfortunately we aren’t going to attract established super stars, so we have to make a gamble.

[bstein14]

I still don't understand why we didn't just wait a year it was no need to extend him imo

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He's been part of a horribly run franchise that has been historically bad since the moment he's gotten here and he's already played for three coaches in his short time in Detroit its entirely possible/likely that his agent told us to lock him up now to show him your loyalty or else he'll ask for a trade out to somewhere that will lock him up for a max deal.

That's how agents work nowadays.

[vic]

The reason why this article doesn't make sense is because it doesn't take into account the expanding salary cap.

By the time 5 years from now rolls around, $45M will be a team friendly deal, even if Cade is playing at his floor. IMO his floor is a ballhandling wing, 3rd best player on a championship team. OG Anunoby is at 37M, and isn't a ballhandler or passer at that level.

Plus the Pistons are setting their leading player at $45M so not only will it be a friendly contract for him, it also sets a bar that the other developmental players will not be able to usurp.

[NYPiston]

Idiotic article.
Cade is their franchise player and even in limited action he's put up good enough numbers to justify being a solid enough player to build around so what else are they supposed to do? Screw around with their franchise player and lowball him when every rookie from his class and their mother are getting the rookie max? It was a no brainer, either that or trade him away and good luck finding a better talent than Cade that actually wants to play in Detroit.

[Billl]

It's going to take a while for writers to catch up to the salary cap explosion. It's a rookie max deal. In comparison, this year's rookie max starts at $35mil vs the vet super max at $49mil. A rookie max deal for 2024 would make a guy the 37th highest paid. That's pretty much the consensus of where cade's value is at this point. He's not a top 10 player now, but he's not getting paid like a top 10 player now or at any point in the contract.

[NYPiston]

I still don't understand why we didn't just wait a year it was no need to extend him imo

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What would that accomplish? Unless Cade suffers another serious injury I don't see him as a guy that's going to completely fall off the map unless you see serious regression on the horizon for him, even if Cade stagnates he's still going to get the max after next season. Plus the rookie extension will be even pricier after next season with the rising cap. This was an obvious no brainer choice to just rip off the band aid and lock it up now.

[Invictus88]

The fact that it's even possible to consider extending one of our own players as the biggest offseason move is pretty sad. Especially for a team that had the most cap space in the league...

[Crymson]

I still don't understand why we didn't just wait a year it was no need to extend him imo

Because that's an excellent way to alienate an important player in today's league. That may sound odd, but it's the calculus of the situation: giving max extensions to promising, high-ceiling young players is just the way of things, and refusing to do it with a player like Cade would poison the well.

[mattao313]

I still don't understand why we didn't just wait a year it was no need to extend him imo

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What would that accomplish? Unless Cade suffers another serious injury I don't see him as a guy that's going to completely fall off the map unless you see serious regression on the horizon for him, even if Cade stagnates he's still going to get the max after next season. Plus the rookie extension will be even pricier after next season with the rising cap. This was an obvious no brainer choice to just rip off the band aid and lock it up now.

To actually see him prove if he'll be a star player instead of a low efficiency no defense player.

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[Rip32]

Most #1 drafted players you see the talent from day 1. Zeke wasn't drafted #1 but you saw the glimpse of greatness the first day he stepped on the court. Not only did you see the basketball skill you saw the toughness and drive to be great. I don't see that in Cade. All I hear is Cade is a leader blah, blah, blah. I think he is soft and I'm not hating. I'm calling what I see. Folks said we overpaid because no stars would come here, bullshet! We don't need stars...I'm sure most bear-witness the greatness of the 2004 team. Most the roster were cast-offs players.

Again, I don't believe Cade is a franchise player. He's the quintessential jack of all trades, master of nothing and without toughness you're just an avg Joe imo

[NYPiston]

To actually see him prove if he'll be a star player instead of a low efficiency no defense player.

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He was going to get paid max even if he was the same level of player after this upcoming season. You clearly don't like him but that's just not how reality works with these contracts. Like I said, he has the numbers and pedigree to get a rookie max, he's the guy the Pistons are building around so there's no way to negotiate a lower contract. Not realistic, at all.

If you want to trade him then that's a different story but I don't think that's a solution either. How about surrounding with something besides utter trash and a coach that can't coach his way out of a paper bag. That would be a start. They're handing him the keys to a decrepit franchise and telling him to do it pretty much by himself as if he's Lebron freaking James . Get the man some real help already outside of rookies and cast-offs.

[whitehops]

I still don't understand why we didn't just wait a year it was no need to extend him imo

Because that's an excellent way to alienate an important player in today's league. That may sound odd, but it's the calculus of the situation: giving max extensions to promising, high-ceiling young players is just the way of things, and refusing to do it with a player like Cade would poison the well.

yeah and it lets the player focus on building something with your team. if you leave them to be a free agent (even a RFA) then they could already be shifting focus to the future elsewhere. i think that's also why coaches almost never go into contract years, they pretty much always get extended a year out so they operate with what's in the best interest of the team, no distractions.