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The rubber meets the road…….

Over or Under?

I'll say under at around 24

I’ll pick the under.

I’ve gotta be wrong one of these years, right?

I'm going over. I know it's just preseason, but that was night and day vs last year. If they share the ball, play with pace, and take pride in defense, they are going to be OK. Not good, but not "worst team in the league" level.

I think they'll get 35 wins. I may have mistakenly selected under though.

Easily over. Easily***



***barring injury

Over

Over, but…

If we don’t look to be “play in good” early on, it’s easy to see vets traded and Sag for Flagg starts, which takes us under.

I feel like if we're mostly healthy and we play every game all season to win our floor is 26-28 wins with 30-32 being most likely and 34-36 being our ceiling.

That said, we might not be "mostly healthy" and we don't know how management will manage the team if we're out of the play-in with 15 to 20 games to go we might go tank mode down the stretch and hit the under.

Dammit, I'm going over and I'm predicting with a much improved team that we surprise the damn league and challenge for the play-in!
Our coach wants to win. That's big difference #1from last year.
#2 appears to be Ivey being much improved compared to that horrible 2nd year.
#3 is the Tobias and Beasley acquisitions. And hopefully THjR but I'm not holding my breath on him. The first 2 should provide us with much improved team play and shooting.
Now if we can just get Ausar back and him and Holland learn how to shoot

Canadafan wrote:Dammit, I'm going over and I'm predicting with a much improved team that we surprise the damn league and challenge for the play-in!
Our coach wants to win. That's big difference #1from last year.
#2 appears to be Ivey being much improved compared to that horrible 2nd year.
#3 is the Tobias and Beasley acquisitions. And hopefully THjR but I'm not holding my breath on him. The first 2 should provide us with much improved team play and shooting.
Now if we can just get Ausar back and him and Holland learn how to shoot

Excellent. Let the kool-aid flow through you. Embrace your inner fan.

This is virtually identical to my prediction, as I think the team falls just short of the play-in, and ends as the 11th seed.

That would absolutely be a banner year for Piston fans for sure. Also, a damn good shot at a high pick, seeing as how the Pistons keep getting leapfrogged all the damn time.

Over

the team is trying to compete which makes a huge difference, and despite our seasoned vets not being super stars or anything i think people underestimate how much improvement that is over playing guys like hayes, wiseman, livers, knox, bagley, etc. extended minutes.

an injury to cade or even harris can make it all go sideways but otherwise i think a 30-win season is very realistic. i think 35 wins is a realistic best-case scenario, which last season would have put them 1 game outside of the play-in.

Langdon is one “three second rounders for a washed lottery pick” trade from ripping off his mask and revealing that he’s Weaver 2.0. Instead of going hard in one direction or another, he hit the ball 125 yards down the fairway, and here we are.

Is Tobias, THJ and Beasley a slight upgrade over Bb, Burks and the corpse of Joe Harris? Yes, but almost every NBA team makes marginal improvements like these. And Holland now gets the “rookie with holes” minutes that Ausar got last year.

Is all of this enough to get twelve more wins? I voted no. I smell a 1-10 start, bad body language, and “who are we going to trade at the deadline?” threads by the end of the month.

The culture needs to change, and that starts at the top. The TL introductory presser was all I needed to realize that it was business as usual for Tom Gores.