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Could Jaden Ivey be dealt?

It'll be interesting to see if TL opens up extension negotiations with Ivey and Duren this summer.... Like if he offers both of them a 4 year $80 million extension if Duren takes it and Ivey passes would that make him more open to moving on from Ivey if he can't lock him up. We know that's what happened with Weaver wanting to secure Bey at $15 million per year like Stew and Bey wasn't having it. Not sure how common that practice is.

He's definitely not untouchable.

I sorta doubt we'd actually shop him though.

Snakebites wrote:He's definitely not untouchable.

I sorta doubt we'd actually shop him though.

Yeah, in part also because his value likely isn't high right now coming off that injury and then he's going to be a FA in a year and who knows what type of deal he'll be wanting so we're not getting anything more than a solid rotation player or a mid to late first for him. I doubt we'd move on from him even though I think currently there isn't a big different in what he provides and what some of our other cheaper players provide.

I'd be totally against giving him something like a 4 year $100 million extension based on what we've gotten so far out of him although I know his floor is at least something like 3 years $50 million.

I think the theory of him is a nice fit with Cade and would be useful to have. I'm not 100% convinced his ceiling is much different than Shroeder, which makes me wonder if we don't just have the realized version of him already on the roster? But I think it's worth seeing what more he can evolve into, like we did with Cade and Stew and are with Ausar and Duren. I guess anyone's moveable for the right price, but I'm not sure we'd get that.

Rip32 wrote:Could Jaden Ivey be dealt?

I think so. We've play better on both ends without him, and we would actually get assets, etc., if we trade him.

I look at this a bit differently, especially if he doesn’t come back this year. There’s an opportunity to extend him for less than he is worth. He’s a good player, very athletic, hard worker and is likely to get better. So lock him up on a team friendly deal.

The question of how good of a fit he is w Cade, etc is a separate issue. But if he is a good long term fit, we got a steal. And next year, if we determine he isn’t, then he should be very tradeable w a value contract.

Doubt it. He’s a culture fit as a hard worker, although the religious zealotry may or may not irritate other players.

Mostly, though, he has a lot of potential. A lot of it is still just potential, particularly defensively, but that’s hard to give up on. It’d certainly take an intriguing offer, I’d guess, given that we have a spot for him and he has shown improvement.

Langdon has done nothing so far that would suggest he would move on from Ivey or any other young member of this core.

theBigLip wrote:I look at this a bit differently, especially if he doesn’t come back this year. There’s an opportunity to extend him for less than he is worth. He’s a good player, very athletic, hard worker and is likely to get better. So lock him up on a team friendly deal.

The question of how good of a fit he is w Cade, etc is a separate issue. But if he is a good long term fit, we got a steal. And next year, if we determine he isn’t, then he should be very tradeable w a value contract.

This. I think Ivey doesn't hurt himself when he did that we are having a very different conversation. He looked like he figured things out those last 5 games and was wrecking Orlando before he got hurt. It sucks for him that he wasn't able to show it but it's a boon for the Pistons. He will be had for much less than he would have otherwise. No concerns with playing with Cade at all. Both showed this wasn't a problem.

If Ivey could be dealt for someone like John Collins or another solid PF, I would do it.

Idk yall… Ivey turned into a >40% 3 point shooter this year. Super athletic, seems loyal to the Pistons, good character. That’s a ceiling raiser and perhaps a floor raiser if Cade ever misses a chunk of time. Just because we flipped a switch in 2025 doesn’t mean it’s because he’s no longer playing. I could see how some say that, but I personally think it’s because Ausar is playing more and Cade started taking matters into his own hands. Stellar shooting from Beasley also masks a lot of our offensive woes - no telling how long we’re able to keep Beasley around, though.

We would be wayyy more dangerous with a Cade / Ivey (over THJ) / Ausar / Tobias / Duren lineup in the playoffs. I understand that we need to find Tobias’ successor, but we can’t just be trading Ivey for anyone 6’9 with a decent jumper. I’d want someone like Jalen Johnson or a star if we move Ivey.

BadMofoPimp wrote:If Ivey could be dealt for someone like John Collins or another solid PF, I would do it.

We need better than Collins if we’re moving Ivey. But totally agree on getting a PF. But I’d rather use a future pick instead of Ivey.

He's still an important piece of our core moving forward. I think if you're Langdon you try extend him for a bit cheaper given the time missed. If negotiations don't progress you then let him go to RFA and still have matching rights anyway.

I’d trade him if we could somehow get a 3 team trade going where we trade Ivey to another team that can provide the value Houston would want so we could get Eason. An Eason/Thompson lineup would be insane defensively!

I think Ivey had some really good moments this year and was trending in the right direction. I definitely would like to see him with this team next season before thinking about moving him.
He's had 3 different coaches so far and after a promising rookie year monty ruining him. Pistons need to let him develop.

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It depends on what we could get for him. I'd like to pool a couple assets together and get a bigger asset. Put Ivey with Simone or Tobias, and see what sort of PF could we get.

JLiv wrote:Idk yall… Ivey turned into a >40% 3 point shooter this year. Super athletic, seems loyal to the Pistons, good character. That’s a ceiling raiser and perhaps a floor raiser if Cade ever misses a chunk of time. Just because we flipped a switch in 2025 doesn’t mean it’s because he’s no longer playing. I could see how some say that, but I personally think it’s because Ausar is playing more and Cade started taking matters into his own hands. Stellar shooting from Beasley also masks a lot of our offensive woes - no telling how long we’re able to keep Beasley around, though.

We would be wayyy more dangerous with a Cade / Ivey (over THJ) / Ausar / Tobias / Duren lineup in the playoffs. I understand that we need to find Tobias’ successor, but we can’t just be trading Ivey for anyone 6’9 with a decent jumper. I’d want someone like Jalen Johnson or a star if we move Ivey.

This is the post right here. People think this is "no Ivey = better play" when it's really been "more Ausar + plus Tobias pulled his head outta his ass = better play". Honestly, Ausar is THAT impactful that increasing his minutes has made up a lot for missing Ivey.

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BadMofoPimp wrote:If Ivey could be dealt for someone like John Collins or another solid PF, I would do it.

This seriously can't be a real post. Ivey for John Collins?

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DetroitSho wrote:

BadMofoPimp wrote:If Ivey could be dealt for someone like John Collins or another solid PF, I would do it.

This seriously can't be a real post. Ivey for John Collins?

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I doubt they give up Markhannen for Ivey.