Top FA Targets

[jaredtyshaf]

What are the team’s biggest needs and which FA do you all feel would fit best?

[jaredtyshaf]

I feel like we need a legit scorer on the wing to pair with Cade, either at SF or SG. My big swing/gamble pick would be Kyrie. He would fit perfect next to Cade in my opinion.

Some more realistic options....

Josh Giddey - May be the best fit in terms of age and offensive skill set. You have to think the Bulls are going to do everything to keep him.

Cam Thomas - Can he do more than just score?

Malik - Could always resign him, we know what we're getting.

[jaredtyshaf]

If Cade has an epic performance in the playoffs he may just be able to attract some big names to play with him.

[Kalamazoo317]

I think we should just do our best to retain our current team and continue to internally develop then look at possible trade moves at next year's deadline. The current core + Ivey + another year of development for Cade, Ausar, Holland, Duren, is worth exploring, imo. Plus we should have a couple of second rounders.
I don't think we're going to get our #2 for Cade from free agency and I don't want to sacrifice the nice foundation we've laid this season. Continuity is worth something. Lets run it back and keep developing the young guys in a healthy environment.

[jaredtyshaf]

I think we should just do our best to retain our current team and continue to internally develop then look at possible trade moves at next year's deadline. The current core + Ivey + another year of development for Cade, Ausar, Holland, Duren, is worth exploring, imo. Plus we should have a couple of second rounders.
I don't think we're going to get our #2 for Cade from free agency and I don't want to sacrifice the nice foundation we've laid this season. Continuity is worth something. Lets run it back and keep developing the young guys in a healthy environment.

Fair enough! That plan hinges on Ivey making some big improvements next season. He has shown flashes, but hasn't shown enough for him to be thought of as a #2 guy. Cade did it this year, maybe next year is Ivey's turn?

[VicVinegar]

Re-sign Malik, and if Reed wants to take league minimum again, awesome. Bench depth at PG/F. And then the biggest thing is going to be flipping Tobias and picks (probably near deadline) for the team's next starting PF.

[Kalamazoo317]

I think we should just do our best to retain our current team and continue to internally develop then look at possible trade moves at next year's deadline. The current core + Ivey + another year of development for Cade, Ausar, Holland, Duren, is worth exploring, imo. Plus we should have a couple of second rounders.
I don't think we're going to get our #2 for Cade from free agency and I don't want to sacrifice the nice foundation we've laid this season. Continuity is worth something. Lets run it back and keep developing the young guys in a healthy environment.

Fair enough! That plan hinges on Ivey making some big improvements next season. He has shown flashes, but hasn't shown enough for him to be thought of as a #2 guy. Cade did it this year, maybe next year is Ivey's turn?

Or Holland or Ausar growing into that role. Either one of those three gets there, or we have to make a big trade for someone, imo. I can't see a world in which we get a #2 in free agency. Who's the last all-star level free agency signing (not re-signing) the Pistons have made?

[jaredtyshaf]

How long do you wait to surround Cade with some established talent though? I get developing, but it’s not guaranteed that Cade will remain in top form for the next 10 years (injuries, etc.).

I’d personally like to see us be open to signing big names if they become available and are willing to come to Detroit. That being said I don’t think we should go into the off-season with a make or break mentality. If a “star” becomes available and fits out team we shouldn’t pass though.

[DetroitSho]

Bump trying to sign someone to be a #2, I'm looking to poach Durant. That's after re-signing Beasley, of course.

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[bstein14]

If we make the playoffs (looking more likely than not) we will have about $25 million to spend (since we won't have a first round pick). Our FAs include THJ, Schroeder and Beasley. Not sure how much we should pay those guys... in theory if THJ took the minimum we could use the full $25 million on a single player, and then we could use the "room exception" to resign Beasley to a 2 year $17 million contract. That might not be enough to keep either of those guys though so we might not have $25 million to go out and get someone we might have to use our $25 million on our own guys and then just have the MLE to add one player to the rotation.

A lot of what we can/will do likely hinges on THJ and Beasley and if we want to retain both or try to upgrade one of those guys. We honestly don't have a clear cut rotation spot either.

C: Duren / Stew (no room here)
PF: Tobias / Font << Font could fall out of rotation>>
SF: Ausar / THJ
SG: Ivey / Beasley
PG: Cade / Holland 2

Best case would be to add a legit starter to the group with that $25 million or maybe even $32 million if we could move off Font in a deal and then get Beasley for the room exception and THJ to come back as a 10th or 11th man. Not sure its very likely though.

[zeebneeb]

If we make the playoffs (looking more likely than not) we will have about $25 million to spend (since we won't have a first round pick). Our FAs include THJ, Schroeder and Beasley. Not sure how much we should pay those guys... in theory if THJ took the minimum we could use the full $25 million on a single player, and then we could use the "room exception" to resign Beasley to a 2 year $17 million contract. That might not be enough to keep either of those guys though so we might not have $25 million to go out and get someone we might have to use our $25 million on our own guys and then just have the MLE to add one player to the rotation.

A lot of what we can/will do likely hinges on THJ and Beasley and if we want to retain both or try to upgrade one of those guys. We honestly don't have a clear cut rotation spot either.

C: Duren / Stew (no room here)
PF: Tobias / Font << Font could fall out of rotation>>
SF: Ausar / THJ
SG: Ivey / Beasley
PG: Cade / Holland 2

Best case would be to add a legit starter to the group with that $25 million or maybe even $32 million if we could move off Font in a deal and then get Beasley for the room exception and THJ to come back as a 10th or 11th man. Not sure its very likely though.

Question on the money thing. It is looking extremely likely that Cade will end up on an ALL-NBA team. That means his incentives kick in, which is about 8 million more for next season. Does that impact the amount the Pistons have available?

I honestly don't know.

[Kalamazoo317]

I think we're pretty likely to operate as an over the cap team, in which case I hope we bring folks back. I just don't think free agency is the path for a non-destination team like ours to sign an all-star or fringe all-star level contributor and it hasn't been in a very long time. We'll get those through the draft or trades if we get them. Beasley is about the best case scenario of what you're going to get in free agency - a role player who massively overperforms.

[LaSheed]

Wish we could get Santi Aldama but notttt happening.

[jaredtyshaf]

Bump trying to sign someone to be a #2, I'm looking to poach Durant. That's after re-signing Beasley, of course.

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That would be so amazing

[Invictus88]

I think we're pretty likely to operate as an over the cap team, in which case I hope we bring folks back.

We don't have any history of doing this under Gores. How are you at all certain of this?

If Ausar and Holland continue to grow and need minutes then there's a lot less reason to bring back THJ. With Ivey coming back you can let Schroder walk too. That's 40 million dollars and we are suddenly 10 million under again.

I think whatever Beasley's number is what will dictate whether or not he comes back and whether we are over.

The year afterward Tobias and Simone come off the books. Simone has largely played his way out of here. Tobias won't be needed as much with the growth of Ausar and Holland. Even if he comes back it's not going to be at anything close to 26 million. That's another 34 million.

And of course the cap number is going to increase as well...

[bstein14]

Never would have thought Cade would be one of the 6 guys who could make all-nba team since you have locks at the guard spots like SGA, Luka, Brunson, ANT, Steph.... really looked like only one spot at guard could possibly be open. Then you have a bunch of other guys like Fox, Booker, and reigning Finals MVP Brown not to mention other guy all-stars like Maxey/Haliburton. It just seemed like it wasn't even realistic but here we are and its looking like he has a pretty decent chance at this point.

Luka hasn't played enough games to qualify so he's out all together. If Cade makes all-nba his deal ends up being worth 5 years $269 million and we end up with about $8 to $10 million less in cap space and luxury tax space over the next five seasons.

[whitehops]

seen a few people mention beasley as an option (i definitely agree) but one thing that really limits our options is that we don't have his bird rights so he would have to be re-signed with cap room. one of the downsides of one year prove-it deals, you essentially have to treat them like UFAs if you wat to re-sign them.

[the_l_train]

Kelly Oubre and Naz Reid.

[Canadafan]

Kelly Oubre and Naz Reid.

I like both. And I like trade for KD
I'm happy though bringing the squad back. Including Shröder and Beasley. THJr likely won't be back. And then trading Fontecchio and Sasser with our new available 1st rounders for a PF

[tmorgan]

Naz would be great, but he loves it in Minnesota.

Oubre is a dumbass.