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Is Hamilton the best 3pt shooter on the Pistons?

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Is Hamilton the best 3pt shooter on the Pistons? 

Post#1 » by BucksRuleAll22 » Tue Jan 8, 2008 3:34 am

I know he doesn't shoot the most but the last few years Rip is in the top 10 of the league for 3pt %. I know players shoot more 3 pointers then him but this year alone he is shooting 47% which puts him at #5 in the NBA.

Im just redoing my NBA 2k8 rosters and redoing most players 3 pointers and Billups is rated a 80, Prince is rated a 84, and Hamilton a 79 which doesn't seem right. From what I see it should be in the opposite order. Thought I would get some Piston fans opinons.
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Post#2 » by Rasheed36 » Tue Jan 8, 2008 3:46 am

Hamilton doesn't get the high rating because he rarely shoots threes. And shoots them only when he's wide as day light.
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Post#3 » by beau » Tue Jan 8, 2008 3:47 am

Billups is the Pistons best 3 point shooter. Hamilton and Prince should only take the 3 when it is a set up by a good pass.
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Post#4 » by BucksRuleAll22 » Tue Jan 8, 2008 3:56 am

ok thanks alot.
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Post#5 » by bstein14 » Tue Jan 8, 2008 3:59 am

Yeah Billups can hit the pull up off the dribble, but I feel better when Rip is taking them.

He's usually taking them from the corner where he's closer to the basket.

IMO being the "best" is also knowing when to shoot them... and that makes Rip the best.

As evidence by Billups' airball 3 pointer at the end of the Boston game where we had plenty of time to take it inside for a quick two.
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Post#6 » by Hunter » Tue Jan 8, 2008 4:15 am

Rip has the best 3pt shot selection and shoots a high %. He's sorta like Bowen in that he only shoots from the corners where the distance is shortest and he only takes wide open shots.

Sheed is actually the best at that pull up 3. I feel better w/ him running to the top of the circle for a quick catch and shoot than I do w/ Billups taking that pull up 3 in transition. He also has the hardest shot to block, so if you really need a 3 off an inbound play or something he's usually a good candidate. He might only get you a 25-30% chance on that sorta force, but at least he'll get it off. Billups would just pump fake and jump into the defender hoping for a bail out call.

But sometimes Billups will just hold the ball up top, rock his defender to sleep, raise up and drop one. And when he gets that sorta stroke going he's our best 3 pt shooter. With him it's all about rhythm and shot selection but if he can get in that lil groove where he's feelin' the ball then every time he raises up you think it's gonna go in. The problem is he always thinks he's in that sorta groove, even when he isn't lol
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Post#7 » by nasty daddy » Tue Jan 8, 2008 4:17 am

bstein14 wrote:Yeah Billups can hit the pull up off the dribble, but I feel better when Rip is taking them.

He's usually taking them from the corner where he's closer to the basket.

IMO being the "best" is also knowing when to shoot them... and that makes Rip the best.

As evidence by Billups' airball 3 pointer at the end of the Boston game where we had plenty of time to take it inside for a quick two.
I never knew if you took a 3 pointer from the corner was any closer then any other parts outside of the three point line. :-?
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Post#8 » by bstein14 » Tue Jan 8, 2008 4:34 am

nasty daddy wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I never knew if you took a 3 pointer from the corner was any closer then any other parts outside of the three point line. :-?


I know its been messed with over the years...

It used to be 22ft from the corners and like 24 from up top but not sure what it is now.
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Post#9 » by Hunter » Tue Jan 8, 2008 4:37 am

from wikipedia...

. In the 1979-1980 season, the NBA adopted a three-point arc that was a variable distance, ranging from 22 feet in the corners to 23'9" behind the top of the key. The line was briefly moved in to a uniform 22 feet during the 1990s before being restored to its original distance.
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Post#10 » by ADM » Tue Jan 8, 2008 4:54 am

Simply stated, Chauncey is the best 3-point shooter in an open gym, he just takes more contested 3s than Rip. I'd rate Tayshaun and Rip about equal, with Tayshaun probably having better range but Rip with better shot selection. Rasheed's the worst of the four, but he unfortunately jacks up the most.
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Post#11 » by nasty daddy » Tue Jan 8, 2008 9:10 am

Hunter wrote:from wikipedia...

. In the 1979-1980 season, the NBA adopted a three-point arc that was a variable distance, ranging from 22 feet in the corners to 23'9" behind the top of the key. The line was briefly moved in to a uniform 22 feet during the 1990s before being restored to its original distance.
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Post#12 » by Hunter » Tue Jan 8, 2008 9:11 am

nasty daddy wrote:Oh Hunter how does it feel to go from Senior Mod, to a ball boy now? :lol:
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Post#13 » by BillCartwrightDaMan » Tue Jan 8, 2008 1:28 pm

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Post#14 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Jan 8, 2008 1:48 pm

nasty daddy wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I never knew if you took a 3 pointer from the corner was any closer then any other parts outside of the three point line. :-?


The corners are 22 feet and the arc is 23'9. It's been that way for most of the games history with the exception of the mid 90s.
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Post#15 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Jan 8, 2008 1:51 pm

Chauncey has the best form on his 3 point jumper and can take them with a hand in his face. Rip has a sweet spot on the floor. He can't shoot it like Chauncey, but he uses it better as a weapon. Leftside corner is his area.
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Post#16 » by roc » Tue Jan 8, 2008 6:42 pm

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Post#17 » by Snakebites » Tue Jan 8, 2008 7:44 pm

Rip isnt our best 3 point shooter, he's just our most selective, which is to his credit. Only wide open shots for him. If he and Chauncey had identical 3 point shot selection, his percentage would be lower.

Billups has more skill with the shot, but is also a lot bolder with his shots (somewhat to his credit somewhat otherwise). His pullup 3's from the top of the key early in possessions never seem to go in. I appreciate his desire to make a difference, but with he'd change in this one small aspect.
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Post#18 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Jan 8, 2008 8:29 pm

Pistons#1 wrote:Rip isnt our best 3 point shooter, he's just our most selective, which is to his credit. Only wide open shots for him. If he and Chauncey had identical 3 point shot selection, his percentage would be lower.

Billups has more skill with the shot, but is also a lot bolder with his shots (somewhat to his credit somewhat otherwise). His pullup 3's from the top of the key early in possessions never seem to go in. I appreciate his desire to make a difference, but with he'd change in this one small aspect.


That pullup three is the dumbest shot in his arsenal.

Chauncey takes more and makes more, but at a lower percentage. Rip takes them in a timely fashion at a higher percentage. Funny how it works out to Rip usually being the leading scorer, but not getting much credit because he isn't the ooh aahh player. Of course he's never the guy that makes the bone-headed plays or dumb decisions either.

It's a question of guts over intelligence I suppose. What makes you better because you take a lot to make a lot in a lot of situations or you make more of the few you take because you are conservative?

I guess the question is does percentage mean the most to you? Then Rip is the best shooter. If style means more then it's Chauncey.
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Post#19 » by Manocad » Tue Jan 8, 2008 11:47 pm

nasty daddy wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I never knew if you took a 3 pointer from the corner was any closer then any other parts outside of the three point line. :-?

Um, isn't it obvious? If it were the same distance from everywhere the 3-pt line would be a half circle. But the arc stops at a point on each side and takes a straight line to the baseline. The distance therefore is the same everywhere along the circular arc and becomes shorter and shorter as you move down the straight toward the baseline.

Therefore a baseline 3 is the shortest one you can take, and the one Rip most often shoots.
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Post#20 » by Sub-Zero » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:08 am

he has been clutch with his timely 3s lately
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