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List the greatest Piston midrange shooters in Piston history

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:10 pm
by fleet40
Here is my top 5

#1 - Rip Hamilton, simply the best mid-range shooter I have seen in a Piston uniform. I would dread running around trying to guard him. + the guy is shooting nearly 50% this season. Amazing.

#2 - Bill Laimbeer - Simply put, when you score nearly 14,000 points, of which 80% come from shooting 15' and out, and make 50% of those attempts while at the same time playing the C position put you number 2 on my list. Lets also not forget he and Isiah created the "pick and pop" play, or at the very least revolutionized it.

#3 - Joe Dumars - He and Bill could easily flip-flop from #3 - #2 that's how close they are to me. Bill just relied on it more for his points. Joe was a great mid-range shooter, and when he got hot.. Man watch out.

#4 - Chauncey Billups - When he isn't firing crazy pull up three's Chauncey is a great mid-range shooter. He can hit from anywhere on the floor, and has great command of his jumper. Why he is #4 his 41% shooting percentage.

#5 - Wow this is tough for me. I could place Vinny Johnson and Rasheed Wallace here. Vinny for his way of getting hot and scorching teams for 10 points bursts, and scoring a majority of that with quick pull-up money 14 footers in guys grills, + hitting that big finals shot (title sealing) win in game 5 in 90' - Rasheed for his very good (but not used enough) spot jumpers that he can burry form outside, and down low in the box. he has a great glass shot (that he again should go to more) But he instead tries to gun far too many 3 pointers, and this hurts his FG%

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:27 pm
by prophet_of_rage
Where's Dave Bing?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:40 pm
by fleet40
prophet_of_rage wrote:Where's Dave Bing?


Good question: Never saw him play in person. Started watching the Pistons in 84'

But he was a very good shooter and if he is on anyone's top 5, there is good argument for him being there.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:58 pm
by Snakebites
George Yardley deserves mention for helping to invent the jumpshot, though granted he played in a time when nobody knew how to defend it.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:34 pm
by LanierFan
Bob Lanier instead of Laimbeer, because he was extremely accurate from a variety of midrange distances (and off the drive). Bill was either at the rim or near the arc.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:58 pm
by Shooter1
The Microwave has to be on the list.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:28 pm
by fleet40
LanierFan wrote:Bob Lanier instead of Laimbeer, because he was extremely accurate from a variety of midrange distances (and off the drive). Bill was either at the rim or near the arc.


I respectfully disagree. Lanier was a decent outside shooter - but nowhere as good as Laimbeer, but was a great post player. And when was Laimbeer at the rim? He was always near the top of the key and out, and only got inside points with tip ins, and put backs. (Although his first few seasons he did have a good post turn around shot at 10' - 13') Which he traded for the three-point shot later in his career.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:46 pm
by GJense4181
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249 Dale Davis
250 Ben Wallace

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:49 am
by LanierFan
fleet40 wrote:I respectfully disagree. Lanier was a decent outside shooter - but nowhere as good as Laimbeer, but was a great post player. And when was Laimbeer at the rim? He was always near the top of the key and out, and only got inside points with tip ins, and put backs. (Although his first few seasons he did have a good post turn around shot at 10' - 13') Which he traded for the three-point shot later in his career.


The title of the thread includes the word "midrange." As in, not a spotup artist on the perimeter. A midrange shooter at the center position is in the paint, at the elbows and along the baseline. All of which were better spots for Lanier than Laimbeer. And if you think Lanier was only "decent," you apparently missed the eight or so years when he was considered the best outside shooting center in basketball.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:48 am
by Manocad
Dave Bing, easy.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:50 am
by Grey
GJense4181 wrote:.
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249 Dale Davis
250 Ben Wallace


Ben Wallace wasn't that bad. I'd rather he shoot it than Dale Davis.

But I'd take either one of them over Olden Polynice or Eric Montross.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:44 am
by Warspite
1. Bing
2. Tripuka
3. Microwave
4. Dantley
5. Lanier
6. Dumars
7. Rip
8. Hill
9. Yardley



Im not sure Laimbeer ever hit a shot inside 18ft.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:13 pm
by fleet40
LanierFan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



The title of the thread includes the word "midrange." As in, not a spotup artist on the perimeter. A midrange shooter at the center position is in the paint, at the elbows and along the baseline. All of which were better spots for Lanier than Laimbeer. And if you think Lanier was only "decent," you apparently missed the eight or so years when he was considered the best outside shooting center in basketball.


With all that being true of how good a shooter Lanier was, Laimbeer was a better mid-range shooter (10' - 15'). And a better long-range shooter (15' 20'). In my opinion of course.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:15 pm
by fleet40
Warspite wrote:1. Bing
2. Tripuka
3. Microwave
4. Dantley
5. Lanier
6. Dumars
7. Rip
8. Hill
9. Yardley



Im not sure Laimbeer ever hit a shot inside 18ft.


Then your memory of Laimbeer is very "cloudy" at best.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:13 pm
by the_l_train
Grey wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Ben Wallace wasn't that bad. I'd rather he shoot it than Dale Davis.

But I'd take either one of them over Olden Polynice or Eric Montross.


...can we add brezec to this list also?

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:02 pm
by Roscoe Sheed
People are forgetting about JOHN LONG!!!!!!! he had a great set shot.