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Isiah Has lost it

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:41 pm
by Shooter1
Not sure how this guy still has his job. Any other coached would have been fired years ago.

Last night he benched Curry, Randolph and Q as they played 15,10, and 6 min each.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:00 pm
by Roscoe Sheed
Numerous newspaper sources (NY Daily News, NY Post) are reporting that Isiah will certainly be fired very shortly. They should have done that about one month ago once it was totally clear that Isiah had totally lost his team

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:23 pm
by chrbal
He added to the mistakes of the previous regimes by adding more and more salary. He also built the team, before he built the identity.

For example Ben Wallace and Corliss Williamson were the only 2 player to last from Bens 1st season to the championship season (3 whopping seasons).

You need to find your guy and build around him, and if that doesn't work...don't dig yourself so deep you can't fix it.

You don't get Ben Wallace and surround with "Defensive Specialists" just as much as you don't get Marbury and surround with him guys who need the ball in their hand and a good amount of shots to be effective.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:40 pm
by #1stunna
You don't get Ben Wallace and surround with "Defensive Specialists" just as much as you don't get Marbury and surround with him guys who need the ball in their hand and a good amount of shots to be effective.


Good thing paxson hasn't figured that out yet :lol:

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:50 pm
by Low-Ki
There is a theory that NYK are going to wait as long as possible to fire Zeke as punishment. Basically the team is such a mess there is nothing that could be done this season and they don't plan on firing Isiah, paying him in full and allowing him to vacation on some beach the rest of the season while the team is struggling and pretty much a model of how not to run a franchise.

Another theory has Isiah knows what they are doing and is trying to get fired - so far to no avail.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:13 pm
by Roscoe Sheed
Low-Ki wrote:There is a theory that NYK are going to wait as long as possible to fire Zeke as punishment. Basically the team is such a mess there is nothing that could be done this season and they don't plan on firing Isiah, paying him in full and allowing him to vacation on some beach the rest of the season while the team is struggling and pretty much a model of how not to run a franchise.

Another theory has Isiah knows what they are doing and is trying to get fired - so far to no avail.


what a mess!

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:49 pm
by Hunter
Low-Ki wrote:There is a theory that NYK are going to wait as long as possible to fire Zeke as punishment. Basically the team is such a mess there is nothing that could be done this season and they don't plan on firing Isiah, paying him in full and allowing him to vacation on some beach the rest of the season while the team is struggling and pretty much a model of how not to run a franchise.

Another theory has Isiah knows what they are doing and is trying to get fired - so far to no avail.
I think both theories are rubbish. Nobody in their right mind keeps a coach as "punishment" and Isiah has far to much pride. Did you forget who you are talking about???

IMO the reason Isiah didn't get fired earlier was due to legalities surrounding the lawsuit they are still trying to appeal. IF you say "Isiah is innocent", and then fire him it looks really really bad.

Dolan had to wait a period of time, and give Isiah ample rope to hang himself before even considering firing the guy. There couldn't be even a hint of impropriety in the whole thing, as it could reflect very poorly in the whole legal process. 2-3 months ago people would have said "Why now?" IF he were fired today people would say "About time." It's all about timing.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:22 pm
by Liqourish
You know what's funny? When Isiah brought in Marbury... people were thrilled. When he drafted Frye, Robinson and Lee fans were estatic. Wehn Isiah traded for Curry... people loved the move. When he signed LB as coach... headlines around the US praised him. When he got Randolph on draft night... Spike Lee and David Lee grinned from ear to ear and praised Isiah. Now it's the cool thing to hate Isiah. It's amazing how fickle the public can be.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:26 pm
by Uncle Mxy
Hunter wrote:I think both theories are rubbish.

Oh hush! You're a newbie on this board -- what do YOU know? :)
(Yeah, I agree with you on the rubbish part, so don't have a Cow.)

Nobody in their right mind keeps a coach as "punishment" and Isiah has far to much pride. Did you forget who you are talking about???

The thing is, Dolan isn't in his right mind. There's a pattern of poor choices that's led the Knicks into this mess, and they have all the same "deciders" at the helm. The theory I've heard is that Dolan hates the media, and isn't going to validate them by firing Isiah.

IMO the reason Isiah didn't get fired earlier was due to legalities surrounding the lawsuit they are still trying to appeal. IF you say "Isiah is innocent", and then fire him it looks really really bad.

Dolan had to wait a period of time, and give Isiah ample rope to hang himself before even considering firing the guy. There couldn't be even a hint of impropriety in the whole thing, as it could reflect very poorly in the whole legal process. 2-3 months ago people would have said "Why now?" IF he were fired today people would say "About time." It's all about timing.

But, Isiah wasn't coach at the point that the lawsuit was fired. Isiah could certainly be "fired" as coach while remaining as GM without any negative impact on the lawsuit appeal. I don't think that Isiah ever had wanted to coach, but Dolan wasn't gonna pay for any more coaches after the Lenny and Larry show. I'm surprised he hasn't tapped Laimbeer (or someone) as an assistant with the eye of grooming his replacement.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:38 pm
by Manocad
I'll ask only one question...


Who cares?

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:46 am
by srt4b
Manocad wrote:I'll ask only one question...


Who cares?


NO ONE



except everyone within 3000 miles of NYC

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:03 am
by Manocad
srt4b wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



NO ONE


except everyone within 3000 miles of NYC

I must be the exception then.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:18 am
by nasty daddy
Roscoe Sheed wrote:Numerous newspaper sources (NY Daily News, NY Post) are reporting that Isiah will certainly be fired very shortly. They should have done that about one month ago once it was totally clear that Isiah had totally lost his team
They have been saying that for the past month.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:29 am
by nasty daddy
Manocad wrote:I'll ask only one question...


Who cares?
Exactly.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:32 am
by nasty daddy
The way he has been acting, and with some of his comments he has said lately, you could swear that he was off his meds.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:01 pm
by Uncle Mxy
He's taking the same meds Stephon is on... oh wait...

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:02 pm
by cochiseuofm
Liqourish wrote:You know what's funny? When Isiah brought in Marbury... people were thrilled. When he drafted Frye, Robinson and Lee fans were estatic. Wehn Isiah traded for Curry... people loved the move. When he signed LB as coach... headlines around the US praised him. When he got Randolph on draft night... Spike Lee and David Lee grinned from ear to ear and praised Isiah. Now it's the cool thing to hate Isiah. It's amazing how fickle the public can be.


Fickle isn't the right word. Not at all. Even if the public applauded all of Isiah's moves, which they didn't, they are not being fickle now for being upset with losing.

Isiah is the GM of the team. He is responsible for building team chemistry and identity...two things the general public does not usually consider when looking at trades and signings. He has never done so.

But like Manocad said...who cares anymore? Isiah will be fired eventually and then he will probably never got a job in a NBA front office or coaching position ever again.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:16 pm
by Uncle Mxy
Isiah is the Britney Spears of the NBA.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:55 pm
by Shooter1
Uncle Mxy wrote:Isiah is the Britney Spears of the NBA.



LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE..... WAHHHHHAHAHAHHA WHY ARE YOU ALL RIPPING ON BRITNEY. All you care is making money off of Britney, leave her alone.


LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:46 pm
by nasty daddy
Uncle Mxy wrote:Isiah is the Britney Spears of the NBA.
:rofl: