now that amir's in the rotation.....

hoopsnurd · Post #1 » by **hoopsnurd** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:12 pm

read:

http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/langloi ... 80125.html

whats the depth chart?

who gets what minutes (your prediction/recommendations)?

****i actually wouldn't mind seeing maxy playing a little bit of 5 sometimes.

how i look at it:

billups/stuckey/hunter
hamilton/lalo/murray
prince/hayes/
dice/maxy/johnson/hermann
sheed/brezec/maxy/samb

m23uza1hem36 · Post #2 » by **m23uza1hem36** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:55 am

hoopsnurd wrote:read:

http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/langloi ... 80125.html

whats the depth chart?

who gets what minutes (your prediction/recommendations)?

****i actually wouldn't mind seeing maxy playing a little bit of 5 sometimes.

how i look at it:

billups/stuckey/hunter
hamilton/lalo/murray
prince/hayes/
dice/maxy/johnson/hermann
sheed/brezec/maxy/samb

I really like Amir right now, he blocked a couple of shots, grabbed some offensive rebounds over Dwight Howard, he looks very energized, he looks like a force inside, I do think he must get "bigger" though.

I don't know how much minute's he's going to get, the Pistons are leading big so that's why I believe he came in.

Choob · Post #3 » by **Choob** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:05 am

the thing is that it seems he's taking Max's minutes now but competition is good

bstein14 · Post #4 » by **bstein14** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:11 am

I would be happy if we just used a 9 man rotation for a while with the 4 young guys off the bench.

Max, Afflalo, Amir, Stuckey...

nasty daddy · Post #5 » by **nasty daddy** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:17 am

bstein14 wrote:I would be happy if we just used a 9 man rotation for a while with the 4 young guys off the bench.

Max, Afflalo, Amir, Stuckey...

That is exactly what his role will be.

jab · Post #6 » by **jab** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:30 am

Choob wrote:the thing is that it seems he's taking Max's minutes now but competition is good

Yes he is taking Max's minutes.

I'm not buying the competition theory. Flip's CBA championship team only played a 8 man rotation. The T-Wolves 9-12 men never belonged in a rotation so I think he does not have a problem not playing 4 players for weeks at a time.

I am buying into the theory that Flip will never notice that Mad Max will struggle matching up with DHoward, Amare, Bynum, BigZ, and Noah.

nasty daddy · Post #7 » by **nasty daddy** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:06 am

http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/ ... tar_n.html

Forward Amir Johnson is expected to get more playing time and it will likely come at the expense of Jarvis Hayes, who has been going through a shooting slump.

"He's got to make shots,'' Saunders said of Hayes. "We ended up playing Arron (Afflalo) at the three. Arron has been so good for us defensively we thought we needed his energy and his defense. As we told our guys last week, if you play defense that's how you're going to stay on the floor a lot.''

Saunders said Johnson is going to get more minutes because he's been practicing better and the coaching staff needs to see him in game action."We'll still try to get him in there,'' Saunders said. "The one thing we decided we need to do is see what we have with a lot of those guys. We can't expect to not play them and then playoff time comes and then play them. We might as well find out how some of our guys match up against (Eastern Conference opponents), especially in case there's a chance we play them in the playoffs.''

nasty daddy · Post #8 » by **nasty daddy** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:07 am

You are all wrong, Amir is taking minutes from Hayes. :lol:

Chuck Nevicic · Post #9 » by **Chuck Nevicic** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:22 am

I wish he could play some PG.

jab · Post #10 » by **jab** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:36 am

nasty daddy wrote:You are all wrong, Amir is taking minutes from Hayes.

Hayes needed to be benched tonight though, he broke Nazr's record for dumb fouls in the fewest minutes.

GJense4181 · Post #11 » by **GJense4181** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:18 am

bstein14 wrote:I would be happy if we just used a 9 man rotation for a while with the 4 young guys off the bench.

Max, Afflalo, Amir, Stuckey...

I was thrilled when I saw this lineup (plus Hayes) out there on the floor.
It's what I've been saying for months: in blow-outs, at any point in the game, regardless of which team is ahead, I want to see our young guys play. If the starters can't get it done then perhaps an injection athleticism and energy will. If the starters ARE getting it done, then perhaps the cushion is large enough that a few rookie mistakes won't doom us in the end.

Post #12 » by **ajaX82** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:45 am

now that amirs in the rotation...

i can die in peace

Champs04bigshot · Post #13 » by **Champs04bigshot** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:42 am

jab wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I am buying into the theory that Flip will never notice that Mad Max will struggle matching up with DHoward, Amare, Bynum, BigZ, and Noah.

I disagree obviously he cannot match up on defense against them but then again maxiell never will match up with any of them except maybe Noah. Maxiell can still hustle and get boards and like we saw tonight he hit two fade aways with Howard gaurding him. Maxiell is almost always on the court with either Sheed or Dice so he will never need to match up but he is a problem for some of those guys with his hustle and quick moves. I dont worry about Maxiell as long as he has his legs in the playoffs he will be able to play good minutes against any of those big men.

Post #14 » by **theBigLip** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:21 am

I also want the young guys to play with the starters - no sense in having them all out on the floor at the same time - it's a totally different game.

jab · Post #15 » by **jab** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:31 am

Champs04bigshot wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I disagree obviously he cannot match up on defense against them but then again maxiell never will match up with any of them except maybe Noah.

I buy into the theory that Flip will never notice or care about Mad Max's ability to DEFEND against players up to 9 inches taller and 60 lbs heavier.

Hustle does not get contested rebounds in the paint and Mad Max has already been suffering from tired legs (see ND's links) and we are only at the half way point of the season.

Noah kicked the Dice and Mad Max front line in the behind the last 2 times we played his team.

Coaches who ignore matchups while playing undersized front courts have NEVER won a NBA championship.

jab · Post #16 » by **jab** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:32 am

theBigLip wrote:I also want the young guys to play with the starters - no sense in having them all out on the floor at the same time - it's a totally different game.

Dirtgrain · Post #17 » by **Dirtgrain** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:11 pm

So, if Wallace or McDyess get injured, can we count on Johnson to fill in? We need another big body (Nazr?).

7r5ur · Post #18 » by **7r5ur** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:59 pm

Dirtgrain wrote:So, if Wallace or McDyess get injured, can we count on Johnson to fill in? We need another big body (Nazr?).

We'll be alright. There isn't a reasonably priced big out there that could "replace" Sheed anyways. Sheed/Dice/Max/Amir is a nice combo of bigs. A little undersized, but a good combo of Shooters/Athletes, Experience/Energy.

Next year Joe will probably look to grab a cheap defense/rebounding C with some bulk as insurance.

GJense4181 · Post #19 » by **GJense4181** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:00 pm

^Hasheem Thabeet FTW!

7r5ur · Post #20 » by **7r5ur** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:26 pm

GJense4181 wrote:^Hasheem Thabeet FTW!

I was thinking more in the Dale Davis type mold. A vet who doesn't need minutes to develop. That way we can focus on getting Amir/Max some serious PT.