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If Cassell goes to Boston what will Dumars do?

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If Cassell goes to Boston what will Dumars do? 

Post#1 » by SAKURABA216 » Thu Feb 7, 2008 5:10 pm

It is only a matter of time before Cassell leaves to join his buddies in Boston. He is even willing to sit on the bench and let Rondo start. If this happens what do we do? We have a hard enough time with the Celtics as is, with a legit point guard/scorer in Cassell we will be in deep $hit.

What should we do to get over the top? We should either go after Kaman, Brand, or another big or see if the Knicks have anyone we want. We have some good pieces to deal we just need to make a move now.






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Post#2 » by ajaX82 » Thu Feb 7, 2008 5:12 pm

Boston can do what they want. So can any other team. Who i care about is us. We arent getting Kaman or Brand

I think this team can beat the C's with or without the alien formely known as Sam. so if they want him, fine, it'll be more fun to beat him too
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Post#3 » by HeroicKennedy » Thu Feb 7, 2008 5:37 pm

If Cassell goes to Boston what will Dumars do?

Nothing.

No, really, Cassell would elevate them from serious title contender to... serious title contender. It's not like the move is THE move that'll put them over the top. They have the talent, they just need to put it together and make their run.

Same thing with us. We don't NEED a big move. We just need our team to put it together and make that run. Sure, if Brand is healthy and somehow The Clippers make us a great offer, I'd do it, but I'm not willing to gut a majority of the team for him just because some other team did the same.
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Post#4 » by Liqourish » Thu Feb 7, 2008 6:01 pm

We have the pieces to compete against anyone....we only need the frame of mind to go to work every night. No move is going to do that... Chauncey needs to do that, Tayshaun neeeds to do that, Dice, Sheed, Max need to do that.

Boston wants to add a PG to catch up to Detroit. Detroit doesn't have to do a damn thing besides get their egos down and their heads straight.
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Post#5 » by Low-Ki » Thu Feb 7, 2008 6:34 pm

Having Murray, Brezec inactive and one of Hayes/Herrmann at the end of our bench come play-off time is a waste of sorts though. I'm not comfortable with Amir Johnson getting any meaningful minutes in the playoffs yet, and am wary of just how much McDyess and especially Maxey will have left in the ol' gas tank come the ECF's.

We're not getting Brand or Kaman or any of the Knicks bigs. Cassell is a role player and is probably comparible to Lindsay Hunter. Since Lindsay isn't really playing this season, we're basically adding him for the play-off run.
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Post#6 » by gusman » Thu Feb 7, 2008 7:26 pm

Trade Billups and Prince for Kidd jefferson and carter
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Post#7 » by SAKURABA216 » Thu Feb 7, 2008 7:53 pm

Low-Ki wrote:We're not getting Brand or Kaman or any of the Knicks bigs. Cassell is a role player and is probably comparible to Lindsay Hunter. Since Lindsay isn't really playing this season, we're basically adding him for the play-off run.


But old fetus-head is capable of going off for 30 pts on a good night...

you guys are right though, I like the attitude of just playing good b-ball w/ what we have and not waiting or making excuses until we acquire whatever piece will put us over the top.

Still it makes me nervous to ses all these deals go down that make teams appear like powerhouses.
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Post#8 » by nasty daddy » Thu Feb 7, 2008 8:30 pm

Nothing.
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Post#9 » by nasty daddy » Thu Feb 7, 2008 9:46 pm

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball ... to_boston/

Celtics executive director of basketball operations Danny Ainge has said he is interested in finding "the right veteran point guard." The Celtics are rumored to have interest in Cassell. "I've earned enough," said Cassell. "I've saved a little money. I put money away. I just want to win. Winning is the most important thing to me."

Falk is out of the country and wasn't available for comment. An NBA source said Falk has spoken to Clippers owner Donald Sterling about a buyout. The Celtics do not have the pieces to make a trade for the 6-foot-3-inch, 185-pounder and would need a buyout to acquire him via free agency.

Cassell said a buyout is "the only way I can get [to Boston]." An NBA source said the Clippers do not have any trades or a buyout on the table for Cassell. When asked if the Clippers would buy out a player, coach Mike Dunleavy said, "That's not our stance." Cassell, a 15-year veteran, is averaging 13.1 points, 4.5 assists, and 2.6 rebounds in 26 minutes per game and has started 29 of 34 games. The 2004 All-Star is averaging 15.9 points, 6.1 assists, and 3.3 rebounds in 972 career regular-season games. He has played in 115 playoff games and won two NBA championships with the Rockets. "I think I'd be a nice addition," Cassell said. "It would be fun, but I don't even know [if I can become a free agent]. I'm playing for the Clippers now."

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Post#10 » by triplet1984 » Thu Feb 7, 2008 10:09 pm

That's an interesting question.

The fact is - putting bigger guards on Chauncey Billups and pressuring him hard with those bigger guards... IT WORKS at styming our offense. It's been proven time and time again. This is absolutely a legit concern - the people who don't think so are delusional, this has always been a problem, but hey its easier to just ignore the strategy the other team used and just babble on how 'we beat ourselves'.

I think though Joe, in such a scenario, is probably going to put his hopes on Stuckey being able to come in cause havok by penetrating the lane himself, thus not relying on Chauncey to set up everybody's shot. Seems like a risky plan but all comments point in that direction.
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Post#12 » by Manocad » Thu Feb 7, 2008 10:43 pm

I personally don't give a crap if Superman goes to Boston. All the Pistons need to do is continue to focus on getting better. This team has the talent to beat anyone in the league.
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Post#13 » by Snakebites » Thu Feb 7, 2008 11:22 pm

I echo the sentiments of others. Adding Cassel just doesnt make a big enough splash to warrant a countermeasure on our part, and in any event we need to focus on our team and the improvements (internal or external) we can make regardless of what anyone else is doing.

The Celtics would be good with Cassel. They are good without him. Big whoop.
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Post#14 » by The Penguin » Fri Feb 8, 2008 12:01 am

There are a lot of teams making big moves right now, but I think our big move is Stuckey. We definately haven't seen the best of him yet and he will hopefully be really hitting his stride in the playoffs. Hopefully not playing early in the year will help him avoid the wall that rookies usually hit and we didn't have to give up anything to get him.

A player I would love to add would be Maggette. I know he isn't the smartest player, but he can rebound well for his position and his ability to draw fouls would really come in handy in the playoffs. Unfortunately with Davidson that probably isn't a luxary we can have coming off the bench.
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Post#15 » by nasty daddy » Fri Feb 8, 2008 12:10 am

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball ... n_celtics/

Clippers point guard Sam Cassell is literally willing to pay the price to become a member of the Celtics. Cassell told The Boston Globe this morning that his agent, David Falk, has had conversations with the Clippers about a potential buyout and he is interested in joining the Celtics if such happens. The 38-year-old is making $6.15 million this season in the final year of his contract with the Clippers. Celtics general manager Danny Ainge has said he is interested in finding
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Post#16 » by #1stunna » Fri Feb 8, 2008 12:50 am

it sounds like most of you guys are happy with rookies going up against playoff tested veterans. I believe if we are really going for a title we must bring in a 6th man that can score or somehow improve 1 of the starters.

If dumars was serious about winning a title he would have signed webber & used these expirings/picks for a reliable pg. From the way it looks he wants his young players to develop faster for the future & I understand that, just disagree with it. The trade deadline is feb 22 & we can move brezec/herrman after the 14th so maybe joe's not finished yet & hopefully I'm wrong.

After watching this team the last 2 years in the playoffs I'll never say were set or good enough. The pistons are more like the braves of bball than a dynasty. These last few years we've had more tears of sorrow than tears of joy. They aint any better than the 05,06, or maybe even the 07 team.
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Post#17 » by mercury » Fri Feb 8, 2008 12:54 am

What would we do?

We would iso our PG's on him... exposing his major weakness as a defender.

We matchup better with him playing than Rondo.
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Post#18 » by Low-Ki » Fri Feb 8, 2008 12:56 am

I ain't. I want Kurt Thomas, however unless we pony up a first rounder I think Seattle will be more than happy to keep the wily vet around to mentor their youngsters. I don't want Amir anywhere near the playoff rotation.
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Post#19 » by nasty daddy » Fri Feb 8, 2008 1:09 am

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3235756

While Sam Cassell acknowledges he's unhappy the Los Angeles Clippers are losing, the veteran point guard made it clear Thursday he's not lobbying to play elsewhere.The Boston Globe reported Cassell was trying to buy out his contract so he could play for the Eastern Conference-leading Celtics. Cassell, averaging 13.1 points and a team-leading 4.5 assists in 34 games, is earning $6.1 million this season -- the final year of his contract.

"There's no truth to it," Cassell said by telephone from Toronto, where the Clippers play Friday night. "I never said I wanted to buy out my contract. There have been no negotiations, the team hasn't come to me about that, I have not gone to them about that."

"They misquoted me drastically," Cassell said of the report. "It's just not right for my teammates to hear I'd be a perfect fit in Boston."

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Post#20 » by Manocad » Fri Feb 8, 2008 2:26 am

#1stunna wrote:it sounds like most of you guys are happy with rookies going up against playoff tested veterans. I believe if we are really going for a title we must bring in a 6th man that can score or somehow improve 1 of the starters.

If dumars was serious about winning a title he would have signed webber & used these expirings/picks for a reliable pg. From the way it looks he wants his young players to develop faster for the future & I understand that, just disagree with it. The trade deadline is feb 22 & we can move brezec/herrman after the 14th so maybe joe's not finished yet & hopefully I'm wrong.

After watching this team the last 2 years in the playoffs I'll never say were set or good enough. The pistons are more like the braves of bball than a dynasty. These last few years we've had more tears of sorrow than tears of joy. They aint any better than the 05,06, or maybe even the 07 team.

You're right. It's silly to have Joe Dumars run the team when you're available.
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