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Reportedly, Bulls discussing several Ben Gordon trades... 

Post#1 » by bstein14 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:55 am

Reportedly Chicago has had a lot of conversations with teams involving trades with Ben Gordon.

Who here would trade Stuckey for Gordon?

Reportedly, Ben was wanting a 5 year $60 million contract but I guess much of that could be speculation.

I guess Chicago doesn't want to pay him.

One report was him going to New Orleans for Rasul Butler (plus I'd assume picks).

It's going to be interesting to see where he might go. He could be that "instant offense" so many contenders are looking for.
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Post#2 » by Scrub Sura » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:07 am

Until Gordon realizes he's more suited as a 6th man, no
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Post#3 » by Rodya » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:08 am

Looks like my Eddy Curry proposal started a domino effect of trades.

I wouldn't do the trade. I prefer a slasher with a willingness to pass, not to mention 3 more years of a rookie contract. Ben Gordon is without a doubt an impressive shooter, one of the best in the league. Just not a need of the Pistons, especially at the price.
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Post#4 » by roc » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:08 am

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Post#5 » by GJense4181 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:17 am

I can't imagine Ben Gordon replacing Chauncey Billups as the starter, can you?
He's a superior talent to Stuckey, but not a better fit for the Pistons in the long-term.
Obviously we could just him NOW as a sparkplug off the bench (billionaire's Flip Murray), but this is simply a trade that neither team would do, even if the contracts allowed.
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Post#6 » by Low-Ki » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:26 am

Gordon is a great 6th man, but he's looking for starter money.
Rip Hamilton is a stain on the Pistons franchise.
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Post#7 » by nasty daddy » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:37 am

Sure looks like another rumor surfaced from Sam Smith of the Chicago Tribune.
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Post#8 » by mercury » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:34 am

If it's from Sam Smith it's 99% BS... he's the #1 biggest media rumor whore.... even worse than Chad Ford...sometimes his SWAG (scientific wild azz guess) darts stick.
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Post#9 » by triplet1984 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:47 am

its already been said, but Gordon wants to be the star, a starter who is the leading scorer. we have one of those already - rip hamilton.
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Post#10 » by Hunter » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:10 am

How bout we just keep the guy w/ 3.5 years left on his rookie contract, mkay.
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Post#11 » by Snakebites » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:13 am

Ive said it before, and I'll say it again: this team wont pay the amount of money Gordon's got coming for a backup player.

The team isnt run that way, and I dont really think it should be.
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Post#12 » by m23uza1hem36 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:21 am

I could care less, first I don't see Chicago anyway trading to in-division already great team Detroit, he has a pretty hefty contract, I believe Joe ain't a person who puts tons of money to get one player. Example: Chicago; Ben Wallace; what it is? $40 million dollars and the guy has not helped them a bit, either is Ben Gordan obviously.
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Post#13 » by 7r5ur » Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:47 am

I'll keep stuckey. Gordon is good, but stuckey is pretty good himself, and he's not looking at a huge contract this offseason. Stuckey will be better than Gordon in a few years anyways.
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Post#14 » by jab » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:53 am

I'll keep Stuckey also.


Reports of Ben Gordon being insulted by the $50 million/5 year offer he received from Chicago might mean he spent too much time 'believing the hype'.
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Post#15 » by Dirtgrain » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:35 pm

RUSSIAN LIGHTNING wrote:Looks like my Eddy Curry proposal started a domino effect of trades.

Well, we've been having trade proposals flowing all season. This trade doesn't make sense for the Pistons. Also, in some of those previous trade threads, people have pointed out that Paxson is stubborn about holding onto players he drafts.

It's weird that in this thread some have said Gordon is a superior talent to Stuckey, but others have said he is not starter material (or were they just saying he would be a backup as long as Billups is here?). But people have be envisioning Stuckey as our point guard of the future all season long. Maybe Dumars will pick up Gordon several years down the road, when it looks like his career is going nowhere (if that's how it turns out). Right now, the Bulls will still be wanting big returns for trading Gordon, I think (how high was he drafted?).
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Post#16 » by Hunter » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:48 pm

^Gordon isn't a PG. He's an undersized SG.

Stuckey is a combo-guard. He's not the shooter that Gordon is, but he has better handles and more natural play making instincts (despite being a scorer himself). He's probably also better defensively. Whether Stuckey is eventually able to start at the point for us (or anybody else) is still to early to tell, but one thing I do know is that Gordon certainly will not be.
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Post#17 » by GJense4181 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:03 pm

Dirtgrain wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Well, we've been having trade proposals flowing all season. This trade doesn't make sense for the Pistons. Also, in some of those previous trade threads, people have pointed out that Paxson is stubborn about holding onto players he drafts.

It's weird that in this thread some have said Gordon is a superior talent to Stuckey, but others have said he is not starter material (or were they just saying he would be a backup as long as Billups is here?). But people have be envisioning Stuckey as our point guard of the future all season long. Maybe Dumars will pick up Gordon several years down the road, when it looks like his career is going nowhere (if that's how it turns out). Right now, the Bulls will still be wanting big returns for trading Gordon, I think (how high was he drafted?).

He was drafted 3rd overall in 2004, a surprisingly solid draft.
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A three-guard rotation of Stuckey/Afflalo/Gordon would be damn-near ideal in the future. Gordon will never be the full-time starting PG on *this* team, though. He wouldn't start over either of our current G's, and we wouldn't want him to someday take the reigns from Chauncey or Rip, either.
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Post#18 » by triplet1984 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:18 pm

the only way we should be thinking about Ben Gordon is if Rip Hamilton demanded a trade. Otherwise, he has no role here.
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Post#19 » by GJense4181 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:47 pm

^ But Gordon couldn't start alongside Chauncey. Our starting lineup would be far too small (two PGs, a SF, and two PFs). Afflalo would have to be our starting SG despite being worse than both Rodney Stuckey and Ben Gordon.
Billups 6'3"/Stuckey 6'5"
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Prince 6'9"/?
McDyess 6'9"/Johnson 6'11"
Wallace 6'11"/Maxiell 6'7"
I would prefer our 10th man, the backup SF, to be rather tall for the position. Ideally that would be Amir, with Maxiell playing PF and some 7'0" draftee at C.

I just wasted my time, though. We're not going to get Ben Gordon.
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Post#20 » by roc » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:57 pm

He has no role here period. The guy can't handle the rock and is a shooter in a PG's body. Maybe if he gets a whoooole lot better at D he can have the Lindsey role in 8 years or so. :lol:
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