Alex Smith vs. JaMarcus Russell

[gswhoops]

Which one would you rather build a franchise around? Which one do you think will become a better QB?

Just curious because they're both young, were both #1 picks, and both play in the Bay.

[JoeyH]

lol I love that avatar.

The answer for me is J-Marc. All day.

[Monkeyfeng06]

JaMarcus Russell

[NO-KG-AI]

Russell. I think Alex Smith got lucky that the QB's in his class were garbage.

[Elway=GOAT]

Alex Smith...I think he is just the smarter of the 2. Better decision maker and more accurate. Russell has the stronger arm, and more physical talent obviously, but so did Ryan Leaf and Jeff George.

Russell is going to be a bust, Smith has already shown that he is a capable QB. I dont believe the Raiders will surround Russell with the talent he needs to succeed. He is not the type who can scramble and make plays with his feet first of all. I see him as another Byron Leftwhich. Guy with a big arm, who is going to get crushed, because he has no ability to move in the pocket.

His downfall will be the Raiders and Al Davis. Smith will go down with the better legacy, because the niners have shown in recent years, they know how to buld a team, atleast have an idea of it. Ontop of that, the Raiders play in a division with teams, who will always be solid, the Niners do not.


EDIT: Cutler will be better than both

[NO-KG-AI]

Alex Smith...I think he is just the smarter of the 2. Better decision maker and more accurate. Russell has the stronger arm, and more physical talent obviously, but so did Ryan Leaf and Jeff George.

Russell is going to be a bust, Smith has already shown that he is a capable QB. I dont believe the Raiders will surround Russell with the talent he needs to succeed. He is not the type who can scramble and make plays with his feet first of all. I see him as another Byron Leftwhich. Guy with a big arm, who is going to get crushed, because he has no ability to move in the pocket.

His downfall will be the Raiders and Al Davis. Smith will go down with the better legacy, because the niners have shown in recent years, they know how to buld a team, atleast have an idea of it. Ontop of that, the Raiders play in a division with teams, who will always be solid, the Niners do not.


EDIT: Cutler will be better than both

Says the guy who obviously knows nothing about Russell. Can't move in the pocket? That's a joke right? Not accurate? Rofl.

Their are a few differences between Russell and Leftwich:

1) Russell has an even stronger arm

2) Russell is much more mobile (not Mcnabb or Culpepper mobile, but about like Big Ben)

3) Russell has a lighting quick release, and can get the ball 50-60 yard with a flick of the wrist, he doesn't have the long wind up of Leftwich.

I'll give you that the Raiders probably won't put a great core around him, but Alex Smith's field smarts are way overrated.

Russell has proven he can run a pro style offense at an extremely high level, their is no reason that won't translate, and he improved immensely every year.

[Pierce 4 3]

russell all the way

[UKF]

ill say russel and im a niner fan. but you never can know these things, im gunna strictly on physical atributes.

[Elway=GOAT]

Alex Smith...I think he is just the smarter of the 2. Better decision maker and more accurate. Russell has the stronger arm, and more physical talent obviously, but so did Ryan Leaf and Jeff George.

Russell is going to be a bust, Smith has already shown that he is a capable QB. I dont believe the Raiders will surround Russell with the talent he needs to succeed. He is not the type who can scramble and make plays with his feet first of all. I see him as another Byron Leftwhich. Guy with a big arm, who is going to get crushed, because he has no ability to move in the pocket.

His downfall will be the Raiders and Al Davis. Smith will go down with the better legacy, because the niners have shown in recent years, they know how to buld a team, atleast have an idea of it. Ontop of that, the Raiders play in a division with teams, who will always be solid, the Niners do not.


EDIT: Cutler will be better than both

Says the guy who obviously knows nothing about Russell. Can't move in the pocket? That's a joke right? Not accurate? Rofl.

Their are a few differences between Russell and Leftwich:

1) Russell has an even stronger arm

2) Russell is much more mobile (not Mcnabb or Culpepper mobile, but about like Big Ben)

3) Russell has a lighting quick release, and can get the ball 50-60 yard with a flick of the wrist, he doesn't have the long wind up of Leftwich.

I'll give you that the Raiders probably won't put a great core around him, but Alex Smith's field smarts are way overrated.

Russell has proven he can run a pro style offense at an extremely high level, their is no reason that won't translate, and he improved immensely every year.

First, I never said Russell isnt accurate...I said Smith is more accurate. Russell is not a mobel QB. He is somewhere between leftwhich and big ben. Which is going to get him nowhere in the pros, atleast for the next couple years. He is going to be a sitting duck back there. Alot of QB's have played in pro style offenses and flopped. I think Russell will, be just another bust. Especially playing in the division that he currently is in now.

I dont care how far a guy can throw the ball, or how quick his release is. If that was a factor in anything important, Mike Vick and Kyle Bollar would be the best QB's in the league, and Ryan Leaf and Jeff George would be hall of famers. It means absolutly nothing. Russell will bust. 3 years from now when the Raiders still have the first pick, and are taking another QB because the utter failure of Russell. I hope you remember me and this post.

[NO-KG-AI]

I can see him busting, but not for the reasons that you do.

Quick release makes a WORLD of a difference, it is basically keeping Leftwich from being elite.

Jamarcus is more mobile than you think obviously, he will be able to scramble for some yards, about like Big Ben, like I said. Not a real threat, but enough to buy time.

[Elway=GOAT]

I can see him busting, but not for the reasons that you do.

Quick release makes a WORLD of a difference, it is basically keeping Leftwich from being elite.

Jamarcus is more mobile than you think obviously, he will be able to scramble for some yards, about like Big Ben, like I said. Not a real threat, but enough to buy time.

Now dont get me wrong, I dont think he is a Bledsoe where he is a sitting duck. But I think he is going to have a very hard time in the pro's especially with the shittyness of the Raiders Oline. That is the main reason. I always believe no matter how talented a players arm is, or his physical gifts, hes only going to be as good as his line and specialist players. That is why I believe John Elway to be the best of all time at the position. He put teams on his back that should been battling for top 5 picks every year and took them to the superbowl.

He is the only QB I have ever seen litterally take a poor supporting cast put them on his back all the way to the superbowl. Now they got blown out the pre-shannhan superbowl teams, but he took them there. I dont even think Elway could save this Raiders team. Which is going to be Russells ultimate downfall.

[NO-KG-AI]

Well, John Elway's quick release was a big part of his success, it can keep you from getting murdered.

I agree about the o-line, Aaron Brooks is very fast, and even he couldn't make a difference with his speed.