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Rank All 32 QB's

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:19 pm
by Next Coming
ESPN Sportsnation has a fun page up as a part of the big ESPN NFL Preview that was unveiled today.

Here is the link.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsna ... &listId=23

This is how the Nation has them ranked.

Peyton Manning-Colts
Tom Brady-Patriots
Drew Brees-Saints
Carson Palmer-Bengals
Donovan McNabb-Eagles
Marc Bulger-Rams
Phillip Rivers-Chargers
Matt Hasselbeck-Seahawks
Brett Favre-Packers
Ben Roethlisberger-Steelers
Vince Young-Titans
Tony Romo-Cowboys
Matt Leinart-Cardinals
Steve McNair-Ravens
Jay Cutler-Broncos
Jake Delhomme-Panthers
Chad Pennington-Jets
Alex Smith-Niners
Eli Manning-Giants
Jeff Garcia-Bucs
Jon Kitna-Lions
Trent Green-Dolphins
Byron Leftwitch-Jaguars
J.P. Losman-Bills
Daunte Culpepper-Raiders
Matt Schaub-Texans
Rex Grossman-Bears
Damon Huard-Chiefs
Jason Campbell-Redskins
Joey Harrington-Falcons
Charlie Frye-Browns
Tavaris Jackson-Vikings

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:20 pm
by Next Coming
This is how I have them ranked

# 1.P. Manning
# 2.Brady
# 3.Palmer
# 4.Brees
# 5.McNabb
# 6.Hasselbeck
# 7.Bulger
# 8.Rivers
# 9.Roethlisberger
# 10.Losman
# 11.Romo
# 12.E. Manning
# 13.Cutler
# 14.Smith
# 15.Leinart
# 16.McNair
# 17.Favre
# 18.Young
# 19.Grossman
# 20.Delhomme
# 21.Kitna
# 22.Huard
# 23.Leftwich
# 24.Green
# 25.Schaub
# 26.Pennington
# 27.Campbell
# 28.Garcia
# 29.Frye
# 30.Culpepper
# 31.Jackson
# 32.Harrington

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:17 pm
by bigboy1234
Way too much work for me, but would you really rather be more comfortable with Grossman as your QB over Green?

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:04 pm
by studcrackers
probably depends on what my oline situation, that KC line he had is one of the best ever but this year you might go with grossman and who knows if green will be the same.

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:48 am
by Next Coming
bigboy1234 wrote:Way too much work for me, but would you really rather be more comfortable with Grossman as your QB over Green?


Lazy.

But yeah Grossman is prone to making big mistakes.

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:11 am
by studcrackers
also losman at #10? you're not that much of a homer are you?

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:49 pm
by PistonFan4Life
Next Coming wrote:This is how I have them ranked

# 1.P. Manning
# 2.Brady
# 3.Palmer
# 4.Brees
# 5.McNabb
# 6.Hasselbeck
# 7.Bulger
# 8.Rivers
# 9.Roethlisberger
# 10.Losman
# 11.Romo
# 12.E. Manning
# 13.Cutler
# 14.Smith
# 15.Leinart
# 16.McNair
# 17.Favre
# 18.Young
# 19.Grossman
# 20.Delhomme
# 21.Kitna
# 22.Huard
# 23.Leftwich
# 24.Green
# 25.Schaub
# 26.Pennington
# 27.Campbell
# 28.Garcia
# 29.Frye
# 30.Culpepper
# 31.Jackson
# 32.Harrington

Your kidding right? Kitna at 21? He's not a top 5, probably not even top 10, but he surely isn't worse than all the QBs that you put ahead of him.

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:30 pm
by Wizards2Lottery
All these QB's at this point aren't better than Campbell

Schaub
Huard
Frye
Kitna
Culpepper
Garcia
Harrington
Grossman
Smith
Green

Why rank Alex Smith so high when Campbell in less time has shown more than him. Both were drafted in the same draft and Campbell in less playing time has shown more poise and a better skill set than A. Smith.

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:49 pm
by Pierce 4 3
1. Tom Brady / Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady / Peyton Manning
3. Carson Palmer

...

who cares about the rest

Posted: Sat Sep 1, 2007 1:08 am
by kooldude
Brady better than Palmer? Brady is more clutch and have leadership quality but if I'm starting a franchise, it's Manning, than Palmer, and maybe Brady or McNabb.

Posted: Sat Sep 1, 2007 1:58 am
by Next Coming
Okay.

It's easy to pick apart somebody else's list but let's see everyone elses.

Posted: Sat Sep 1, 2007 2:27 am
by J.Kim
1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Carson PAlmer
4. Drew Bress
5. Matt Hasselbeck
6. Marc Bulger
7. Donovan McNabb
8. Philip Rivers
9. Ben Roethlisberger
10. Steve McNair
11. Jay Cutler
12. Matt Leinart
13. J.P. Losman
14. Tony Romo
15. Vince Young
16. Eli Manning
17. Brett Favre
18. Jon Kitna
19. Byron Leftwich/David Garrard
20. Alex Smith
21. Jake Delhomme
22. Chad Pennington
23. Jason Campbell
24. Trent Green
25. Damon Huard
26. Daunte Culpepper
27. Matt Schaub
28. Rex Grossman
29. Jeff garcia
30. Charlie Frye
31. Joey Harrington
32. Tavaris Jackson

Posted: Sat Sep 1, 2007 3:05 am
by Fatty
1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew brees
4.Carson Palmer
5.Donovan McNabb
6.Marc Bulger
7.Ben Roethlisburger
8.Philip Rivers
9.Jon Kitna
10.Matt Hassellback
11.Matt Leinart
12.JP Losman
13.Jason Cambell
14.Jay Cutler
15.Vince Young
16.Jake Delhomme
17.Steve McNair
18.Alex Smith
19.Tony Romo
20 Chad Pennington
21.Jeff Garcia
22.daunte Culpepper
23.Trent Green
24.Damon Huard
25.mattschuab
26. Brett Favre
27Brady Quinn
28.tavaris Jackson
29.Joey Harrington
30.david garrard
31.Eli Manning
32.rex Grossman

Posted: Sat Sep 1, 2007 4:56 am
by PistonFan4Life
Fatty wrote:1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew brees
4.Carson Palmer
5.Donovan McNabb
6.Marc Bulger
7.Ben Roethlisburger
8.Philip Rivers
9.Jon Kitna
10.Matt Hassellback
11.Matt Leinart
12.JP Losman
13.Jason Cambell
14.Jay Cutler
15.Vince Young
16.Jake Delhomme
17.Steve McNair
18.Alex Smith
19.Tony Romo
20 Chad Pennington
21.Jeff Garcia
22.daunte Culpepper
23.Trent Green
24.Damon Huard
25.mattschuab
26. Brett Favre
27Brady Quinn
28.tavaris Jackson
29.Joey Harrington
30.david garrard
31.Eli Manning
32.rex Grossman

Not sure why Romo is so far down on the list and I'm also not sure why Quinn is on the list, but otherwise I think thats not to bad if were ranking these guys in terms of current ability to play the qb position and giving their teams a chance to win.

Posted: Sat Sep 1, 2007 5:24 pm
by Silver Man
studcrackers wrote:also losman at #10? you're not that much of a homer are you?


J.P. is a good QB. He has a great arm and is mobile when he needs to be.

Posted: Sun Sep 2, 2007 8:34 pm
by revprodeji
Gonna be good when TJax gets some love. Kid has all the tools and good poise.

Posted: Sun Sep 2, 2007 10:15 pm
by captain_cheapseats
I'm taking health into account for my list, as most appear to have done. It really only effects Culpepper and Pennington, both of whom are lower than they would be for an "assuming perfect health" list. Also, this is where I think they'll all be this season, not where they were last season, hence why Eli Manning is so high (and no, I'm not a Giants fan, I just think he'll have a good year).

Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Carson Palmer
Drew Brees
Marc Bulger
Eli Manning
Philip Rivers
Vince Young*
Matt Hasselbeck
Tony Romo
Jay Cutler
Donovan McNabb**
Chad Pennington
Alex Smith
J.P. Losman
Jake Delhomme
Brett Favre***
Matt Leinart
Steve McNair***
Jon Kitna****
Jason Campbell
Rex Grossman*****
Ben Roethlisberger******
Tavaris Jackson
Trent Green
Damon Huard
Daunte Culpepper
Jeff Garcia
Joey Harrington
David Garrard
Charlie Frye
Matt Schaub*******

*Made his team a lot better than they were without him which, to me, is definition of a good player.

**Most overrated player in the NFL. Puts up good stats, but check out how his backups have fared over the years. It's a pretty big sample size, and for the most part they've been just as good; last year was nothing new.

***Hard to list such great players so low, but these guys are starting to age pretty quickly.

****To me being a good fantasy football QB does not, by definition, make one a good NFL QB.

*****Remember, this is my prediction of how good they'll be this year. I expect Grossman to be better.

******Good in the past, but sucked last year.

*******By default. I've never seen him play in a real game, so I really can't rank him.

Posted: Thu Sep 6, 2007 6:04 pm
by IrishRainbow
Fatty wrote:1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew brees
4.Carson Palmer
5.Donovan McNabb
6.Marc Bulger
7.Ben Roethlisburger
8.Philip Rivers
9.Jon Kitna
10.Matt Hassellback
11.Matt Leinart
12.JP Losman
13.Jason Cambell
14.Jay Cutler
15.Vince Young
16.Jake Delhomme
17.Steve McNair
18.Alex Smith
19.Tony Romo
20 Chad Pennington
21.Jeff Garcia
22.daunte Culpepper
23.Trent Green
24.Damon Huard
25.mattschuab
26. Brett Favre
27Brady Quinn
28.tavaris Jackson
29.Joey Harrington
30.david garrard
31.Eli Manning
32.rex Grossman


Sorry....yes, not what he use to be, but neither has been his supporting cast. In any case, most if not all cred was lost with this ranking....and it may come across as homeristic, but come on...Just look at some of those names ahead of ol' #4. Then again, after 8 the 'S' hits the fan. I know it's easy to shread someone else's list....and appreciate that you did so, but Favre hamburgered between Schaub and Quinn?
:noway:

Posted: Thu Sep 6, 2007 7:18 pm
by CBS7
I hope people who are putting Grossman at or near the bottom will be surprised. Plain and simple, if he doesn't screw up he's got the potential to be top 10 easily. Huge if, though.

Posted: Thu Sep 6, 2007 7:58 pm
by Icness
I did this with the mindset of what order I would want a guy to be my QB right now, and only right now...
1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Carson Palmer
4. Donovan McNabb
5. Drew Brees
6. Marc Bulger
7. Matt Hasselbeck
8. Ben Roethlisberger
9. Matt Leinart
10. Vince Young
11. JP Losman
12. Jon Kitna
13. Phillip Rivers
14. Jake Delhomme
15. Jeff Garcia
16. Jay Cutler
17. Jason Campbell
18. Rex Grossman
19. Tony Romo
20. Matt Schaub
21. Brett Favre
22. Steve McNair
23. Alex Smith
24. David Garrard
25. Eli Manning
26. Brady Quinn
27. Chad Pennington
28. Joey Harrington
29. Trent Green
30. Daunte Culpepper
31. Damon Huard
32. Tavaris Jackson