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Roger Murdock · Post #201 » by **Roger Murdock** » Sat May 14, 2011 12:49 am

If Burflict gets his head on straight I think he will be one of the best ILB prospects in a long time.

Post #202 » by **Manhattan Project** » Sat May 14, 2011 1:47 am

Roger Murdock wrote:If Burflict gets his head on straight I think he will be one of the best ILB prospects in a long time.

Yeah he and Manti Te'o seem to be in a league of their own.

Bucksfans1and2 · Post #203 » by **Bucksfans1and2** » Sat May 14, 2011 3:41 am

Manhattan Project wrote:
Roger Murdock wrote:If Burflict gets his head on straight I think he will be one of the best ILB prospects in a long time.

Yeah he and Manti Te'o seem to be in a league of their own.

Think Hightower's better than the Domer kid.

Post #204 » by **Wade-A-Holic** » Wed May 18, 2011 8:29 pm

Roger Murdock wrote:If Burflict gets his head on straight I think he will be one of the best ILB prospects in a long time.

On ESPN Insider's Pac 10 blog, there was a little piece on Burfict a month or two ago that talked about how he seems to have grown up a ton over the past year or so.

TSE · Post #205 » by **TSE** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:23 pm

How come you don't have the USC tackle in your 2012 mock and where do you have him ranked overall?

Post #206 » by **Icness** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:05 pm

TSE wrote:How come you don't have the USC tackle in your 2012 mock and where do you have him ranked overall?

He wound up making it after I corrected the NE/NO traded pick which I inexplicably had backwards.

He is not as good as Anthony Castonzo as a pass protector but otherwise they are very similar. Castonzo fell in part because he doesn't have great base bulk and I think Kalil will suffer from the same problem as well has a higher floor/lower ceiling perception. I've been surprised at the lack of enthusiasm on Kalil from some NFL people who have watched him. I see a guy that should be able to start right away at LT and hold his own but not a Pro Bowler unless he develops more nastiness and base strength.

Bucksfans1and2 · Post #207 » by **Bucksfans1and2** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:47 am

How does Brewster compare to Mangold or the other elite Centers out there? Specifically as a runblocker.

Post #208 » by **Icness** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:56 pm

Bucksfans1and2 wrote:How does Brewster compare to Mangold or the other elite Centers out there? Specifically as a runblocker.

He's not on the level of Mangold or Ryan Kalil or Alex Mack or Pouncey, the four best centers in the league (and all young guys to boot!). The one thing all those guys have is elite foot quickness and balance to go with it. Brewster's feet aren't as fast. Not quite as good at leverage either but he's better than average there. He is not a mauler but he has some heavy hands (that's good for run blocking and initial punch) that can deliver a real jolt. Bright guy, real good at line calls. I've heard he is assuming leadership for the Buckeyes and is embracing the challenge, which bodes well. I think he'll wind up drafted in the 30-45 range. Get that weight over 300 and have another strong season and he becomes an even higher prospect.

CJ_18 · Post #209 » by **CJ_18** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:13 pm

Hey Icness who do you have as the top undrafted free agents who will be 'prized possessions' when teams are able to sign them? I personally cannot believe a guy like Deandre McDaniel did not get drafted

Post #210 » by **Icness** » Fri Jul 1, 2011 2:18 pm

CJ_18 wrote:Hey Icness who do you have as the top undrafted free agents who will be 'prized possessions' when teams are able to sign them? I personally cannot believe a guy like Deandre McDaniel did not get drafted

QB--Adam Weber. Should have been a 5th rounder. He's a slghtly smaller Jake Locker with a better completion %. Everyone else is UDFA for good reason.
RB--Derrick Locke, should stick as a 3rd down back but he's damn skinny. Mario Fannin might stick too.
WR--Darvin Adams and Ricardo Lockette
TE--Schuyler Oordt and Zach Pianalto
OL--Tim Barnes is the best. Jake Kirkpatrick is right behind him, both are centers. Ray Dominguez, David Mims, Justin Boren, DJ Young will get sniffs. Bad year for UDFA tackles, much better crop a year ago and those guys will get more chances.
DT--Cedric Thornton and Sealver Siliga both should have been drafted. I like Anthony Gray but he needs a year on the practice squad. Martin Parker will get a lot of interest.
DE--Ugo Chinasa is the best of a very weak lot. Brandon Bair could stick in the right format, maybe.
LB--Nick Bellore, who will be the focus of a bidding war in the NFC North. Both the Packers and Lions love him. Mario Harvey, Orie Lemon, and Mark Herzlich should all make teams, though Herzlich is real iffy. I know one team really likes Jeff Tarpinian.
CB--Ryan Jones was my 8th rated CB. He isn't going to be good right away but give him 2-3 years and 10 pounds of muscle and he is the next Chris Gamble. Kendrick Burney is real slow but he deserves a shot.
S--Jerrard Tarrant has 3rd round talent but he's a problem child. Joe Lefeged can stick as a 3rd safety. I like David Sims too. I'm not a Deandre McDaniel guy. I prefer Brian Lainhart from Kent State to him.
Kai Forbath and Josh Jasper can both kick in the NFL. Maybe.

Bucksfans1and2 · Post #211 » by **Bucksfans1and2** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:21 am

Does anybody feel like Barkley is benefiting a lot from "Tolzien Syndrome"?

Post #212 » by **Wade-A-Holic** » Mon Aug 8, 2011 6:16 am

Wade-A-Holic wrote:
Roger Murdock wrote:If Burflict gets his head on straight I think he will be one of the best ILB prospects in a long time.

On ESPN Insider's Pac 10 blog, there was a little piece on Burfict a month or two ago that talked about how he seems to have grown up a ton over the past year or so.

... So much for that. Reportedly, Burfict recently sucker punched a teammate. Nice.

Post #213 » by **Icness** » Mon Aug 8, 2011 6:22 pm

Bucksfans1and2 wrote:Does anybody feel like Barkley is benefiting a lot from "Tolzien Syndrome"?

Not sure what you mean. Tolzein has already won the #3 job in San Diego and could wind up being #2.

I see a lot of Matt Leinart in Barkley, great college QB for a stacked team but not a guy that will necessarily have an easy adjustment to the NFL. IMO Barkley has better arm strength and has faced more adversity with the program being on probation and the coaching change, but I need to see a lot from him this year.

Post #214 » by **Manhattan Project** » Tue Aug 9, 2011 3:46 am

Wade-A-Holic wrote:
... So much for that. Reportedly, Burfict recently sucker punched a teammate. Nice.

First it was a wrong source, then it was a scuffle and now they say punches indeed were thrown. Damn shame, all the talent in the world.

Bucksfans1and2 · Post #215 » by **Bucksfans1and2** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:16 pm

Icness wrote:
Bucksfans1and2 wrote:Does anybody feel like Barkley is benefiting a lot from "Tolzien Syndrome"?

Not sure what you mean. Tolzein has already won the #3 job in San Diego and could wind up being #2.

I see a lot of Matt Leinart in Barkley, great college QB for a stacked team but not a guy that will necessarily have an easy adjustment to the NFL. IMO Barkley has better arm strength and has faced more adversity with the program being on probation and the coaching change, but I need to see a lot from him this year.

I mean that because his line was so good, he wasn't faced with the type of pressure that really sperates the career backups from the actual stars.

Post #216 » by **Icness** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:52 pm

That's true of a lot of big-school prospects. The Sanchize had a great college line and he's turned out pretty well, but Leinart had a similar line and he's a backup.

It's one of the reasons people got down on Ryan Mallett last year. Arkansas had a good line but they got exposed against Auburn and Ohio State and Mallett was brutal when pressured.

What scouts really like to see is a guy that can handle playing with a substandard line. Josh Freeman is a great example of a guy that was more ready to handle NFL pressure because he spent most of his K-State career dodging defenders in his face and disrupting his timing. It's why I liked Kaepernick a lot in this last draft, and Colt McCoy in the prior one. Some people put Jake Locker in that status because his line was dreadful, but Locker makes Tim Tebow look like Peyton Manning in terms of accuracy.

Smooth32 · Post #217 » by **Smooth32** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:34 pm

What do you think about Bruce Irvin?

I think he has a chance to be a top-15 prospect and #2 DE prospectwhen it's all said and done.

Post #218 » by **catalyst** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:42 pm

Jeff - Saw the early mock. What will Jim Kelly say about a West Coast QB being picked in the first to lead the Bills? He may return to cheering for the Houston Gamblers at that time.

Bucksfans1and2 · Post #219 » by **Bucksfans1and2** » Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:08 pm

At this point you're just trolling, having the Packers draft another Tackle, right?

Post #220 » by **Icness** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:38 am

Bucksfans1and2 wrote:At this point you're just trolling, having the Packers draft another Tackle, right?

Well, yeah, it's not like we have any idea what is going to happen during this NFL season and this college season. Just an early stab at who will wind up in the first round and a thought on where teams might be leaning come April. I do think they need another tackle though; IMO Bulaga is an NFL guard, Clifton will be gone, and they don't have any other tackles but Sherrod on the roster that belong. Do I think they'll take another 1st round tackle? No.