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Post#281 » by takeit2dahouse00 » Thu Mar 8, 2012 2:21 am

Iceness..

Any word from your sources on Manning rumors?
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Post#282 » by Icness » Thu Mar 8, 2012 3:33 am

takeit2dahouse00 wrote:Iceness..

Any word from your sources on Manning rumors?


Everyone, and I do mean EVERYONE, knows nothing of substance at this point. I doubt Peyton has narrowed it down much yet. It won't happen fast.

My best guess is he goes to Miami but never gets to where he wants to be physically and doesn't do much.
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Post#283 » by Roger Murdock » Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:47 am

Thoughts on the Redskins giving up 3 firsts and a second to move up 4 spots?
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Post#284 » by Rafael122 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:10 am

They gave up 2. If we want to be technical about it. The media is jumping on "oh, they gave up 3 first round picks" that's if we didn't get a 1st round pick back.

Swapped 1sts this year.

Traded 2 plus a 2nd rounder.
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Post#285 » by Turk Nowitzki » Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:17 am

Pretty good deal for both teams, of course RG3 has to be as good as advertised which is a pretty big caveat.
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Post#286 » by B Mac » Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:11 am

I wanted RG3 badly on the Browns but thank God the Browns didnt give up that package for him.

Im wondering if the Rams might be looking to trade up to 4 from 6 to target Blackmon?
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Post#287 » by Icness » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:44 pm

Roger Murdock wrote:Thoughts on the Redskins giving up 3 firsts and a second to move up 4 spots?


I admire them for going for it. Like it a lot more than what ATL did last year. The price is pretty high, but they are banking that the picks in 13 and 14 will be in the 20s or 30s. WAS has cap room to go get a #1 receiver and a guard and safety, plus they don't have to worry about 1st round pick $$ for three years so they can spend a few million more in futures.

Read the link on my sig for why it's better to be the buyer than the seller in most cases like this. I very strongly believe in building my team around RG3 more than around Sam Bradford.
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Post#288 » by Icness » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:54 pm

B Mac wrote:I wanted RG3 badly on the Browns but thank God the Browns didnt give up that package for him.

Im wondering if the Rams might be looking to trade up to 4 from 6 to target Blackmon?


Cleveland is now in a very strange position. I've got a pretty informed assumption they don't want to take Tannehill at #4. Matt Flynn's fate comes first and here's what you can infer--if they sign Flynn, they're absolutely sitting at #4 and likely taking Blackmon because he's a perfect receiver for a weak-armed guy like Flynn, a powerful drag receiver that can rack up YAC. I still think Richardson is in play esp. if Hillis signs elsewhere.

If Flynn winds up in SEA or MIA or someplace else (even back in GB, his market is quickly drying up if MIA gets Peyton and the Browns pass), then I think the Browns are going to try and sell #4 and slide backwards. Maybe for Tannehill, maybe for Floyd, maybe for Richardson, maybe with the intent to take Weeden at #22. So many fricking variables...

To answer your question, I think the Rams will sit at #6 and be very happy to take Morris Claiborne or Blackmon or Michael Floyd or even Coples. I think they will be very active in packaging those two 2nd round picks and jumping into the 1st for a lineman like Reiff or Adams or Decastro.
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Post#289 » by TSE » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:02 am

Icness wrote:Kellen Moore is undraftable and I guess he was in some mocks as high as the 3rd round recently. Nick Toon WR Wisconsin seriously reinjured his foot and could really fall. He was a 2nd/3rd rounder and now it's hard to see him above a 5th. Matt Reynolds T BYU is much more liked by draftniks than scouts and even there his support is waning.


What are the negatives on Reynolds and I would indeed be surprised to see Kellen Moore not get drafted. i know he's short but I wouldn't draft the guy to be a franchise QB, but if he's sitting around in the 7th and a team like the Lions that has only 1 QB under contract would be a good landing spot for that kind of a sleeper value.
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Post#290 » by JaxMagic » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:08 pm

Jeff,

IToday, I've read countless sites claiming that if Peyton picks Denver that the Jags will try and get Tebow. One site claimed that Jags have already inquired about him. Do you know if there is any validity to this or is this people putting two and two together (hometown kid, Khan's Tebow comments, etc)? Thanks
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Post#291 » by Roger Murdock » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:09 pm

Icness wrote:
Roger Murdock wrote:Thoughts on the Redskins giving up 3 firsts and a second to move up 4 spots?


I admire them for going for it. Like it a lot more than what ATL did last year. The price is pretty high, but they are banking that the picks in 13 and 14 will be in the 20s or 30s. WAS has cap room to go get a #1 receiver and a guard and safety, plus they don't have to worry about 1st round pick $$ for three years so they can spend a few million more in futures.

Read the link on my sig for why it's better to be the buyer than the seller in most cases like this. I very strongly believe in building my team around RG3 more than around Sam Bradford.


Yeah, but rookie contracts aren't much at all any more. If you draft well they will be huge bargains, I would much rather pay a rookie first rounder 2-4 million than pay a guard or receiver 8-10 million on their 2nd or 3rd contract.

Its a pretty interesting trade. If RG3 busts then they are going to be in a terrible situation for the next 4-5 years. They wont even get a chance to start legitimately rebuilding for several years. If he works out then obviously it will be worth it. Its the ultimate roll of the dice.

Personally as a Browns fan, I love RG3 and will root for him to succeed, but I'm going to hope he has a bad rookie year, I dont think I could handle it if he sets the world on fire next year and we are starting Colt McCoy.

Browns need to offer a crap load to Peyton Manning.
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Post#292 » by Roger Murdock » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:11 pm

Any chance the Bengals might try and move up to 4 for Trent Richardson? Say they offer both firsts to Cleveland? Do you think that would be possible? Trent would make that offense very scary for a long time. Seems like a win win but not sure if division rivals would do it.
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Post#293 » by Icness » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:40 pm

Roger Murdock wrote:Any chance the Bengals might try and move up to 4 for Trent Richardson? Say they offer both firsts to Cleveland? Do you think that would be possible? Trent would make that offense very scary for a long time. Seems like a win win but not sure if division rivals would do it.


They're not going to move up, certainly not by trading with the Browns. They might be able to get Richardson at 17. Doubtful but if he falls past Tampa at #5 there's a good chance he is still there at 17, barring someone getting antsy and moving up to snag him. Similar to what happened to Aaron Rodgers, he's either going top 5 or he's sitting a long time. There is very little desire by anyone I've talked to or heard about that wants to spend a high pick on a RB.
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Post#294 » by Icness » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:44 pm

JaxMagic wrote:Jeff,

IToday, I've read countless sites claiming that if Peyton picks Denver that the Jags will try and get Tebow. One site claimed that Jags have already inquired about him. Do you know if there is any validity to this or is this people putting two and two together (hometown kid, Khan's Tebow comments, etc)? Thanks


The JAX front office would have ZERO interest in Tim Tebow. The new owner would be directly and personally responsible for bringing him home.

IMO the Broncos aer stupid for dumping Tebow if they sign Manning. At worst Tebow becomes an experienced backup and learns from the master so he can take over in 2-3 years. If Manning gets hurt in Week Three, all of the sudden Tom Brandstater is their man. That's just asinine.
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Re: 2012 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#295 » by Roger Murdock » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:59 pm

Icness wrote:
JaxMagic wrote:Jeff,

IToday, I've read countless sites claiming that if Peyton picks Denver that the Jags will try and get Tebow. One site claimed that Jags have already inquired about him. Do you know if there is any validity to this or is this people putting two and two together (hometown kid, Khan's Tebow comments, etc)? Thanks


The JAX front office would have ZERO interest in Tim Tebow. The new owner would be directly and personally responsible for bringing him home.

IMO the Broncos aer stupid for dumping Tebow if they sign Manning. At worst Tebow becomes an experienced backup and learns from the master so he can take over in 2-3 years. If Manning gets hurt in Week Three, all of the sudden Tom Brandstater is their man. That's just asinine.


I think that Elway views signing Manning as a way of dumping Tebow without pissing off all the Denver fans. He sees it as an out to get rid of a player he thinks is terrible but is currently tied to because fans would riot if he was cut without a much much much better replacement.
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Re: 2012 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#296 » by JaxMagic » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:18 pm

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JaxMagic wrote:Jeff,

IToday, I've read countless sites claiming that if Peyton picks Denver that the Jags will try and get Tebow. One site claimed that Jags have already inquired about him. Do you know if there is any validity to this or is this people putting two and two together (hometown kid, Khan's Tebow comments, etc)? Thanks


The JAX front office would have ZERO interest in Tim Tebow. The new owner would be directly and personally responsible for bringing him home.

IMO the Broncos aer stupid for dumping Tebow if they sign Manning. At worst Tebow becomes an experienced backup and learns from the master so he can take over in 2-3 years. If Manning gets hurt in Week Three, all of the sudden Tom Brandstater is their man. That's just asinine.


I think that Elway views signing Manning as a way of dumping Tebow without pissing off all the Denver fans. He sees it as an out to get rid of a player he thinks is terrible but is currently tied to because fans would riot if he was cut without a much much much better replacement.


I was just saying the same thing to a buddy of mine. I feel Elway wants Tebow gone but due to his popularity thats hard to do, but Peyton is one of the few guys you could bring in and the fans would probably be OK with it.

From a Jag's fan's perspective, I'm very interested to see if these reports hold any truth. Apparently Khan viewed Tebow as a "once-in-a-lifetime" opportunity for the Jags and would have overruled the GM to draft him. Khan even likened Tebow to how Butkus to the Bears was... Now that he is the owner, I wonder if he will go over Gene's head to try and get him here in Jax. Gene has stated he is not a Tebow fan, but I guess if Khan wants it done it will be.
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Post#297 » by Icness » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:06 am

Honestly I didn't think of the whole "Peyton gives them an out on Tebow" angle, never crossed my mind. I know John Fox some and he's not that calculating of a guy, but it might not solely be his call. Interesting thought.

From the JAX side, I would interpret Khan bringing Tebow home as a last-ditch effort to save football in that city. It would show that Khan is serious about wanting to keep the team there. It would also show fellow owners that if it doesn't work even with Tebow, then Khan has every justifiable reason to move his team whenever and wherever he wants. In other words, if it happens JAX had damn well better sell out every game and Tebow jerseys had better be in the top 5 in sales or else the team won't be there in two years.
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Post#298 » by SpeedyG » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:58 pm

Icness wrote:Honestly I didn't think of the whole "Peyton gives them an out on Tebow" angle, never crossed my mind. I know John Fox some and he's not that calculating of a guy, but it might not solely be his call. Interesting thought.

From the JAX side, I would interpret Khan bringing Tebow home as a last-ditch effort to save football in that city. It would show that Khan is serious about wanting to keep the team there. It would also show fellow owners that if it doesn't work even with Tebow, then Khan has every justifiable reason to move his team whenever and wherever he wants. In other words, if it happens JAX had damn well better sell out every game and Tebow jerseys had better be in the top 5 in sales or else the team won't be there in two years.


If the Jaguars trade for Tebow, I am downgrading my season tickets. I know many other fans who will cancel, not renew, or downgrade their season tickets.

It goes both ways.

Appease the 3-5k Gator fans in bringing him, and piss off another 1-2k season tickets who will view the move as solely nothing more than parlor show rather than an attempt at improving the team and towards the goal of winning a SB.
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Re: 2012 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#299 » by Bucksfans1and2 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:50 pm

Safe to assume Snyder and Jerry are going to appeal/sue on their salary cap losses??
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Post#300 » by Bucksfans1and2 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:10 am

You've said you see Gholston in Perry.

Do you see any Crabtree in Blackmon??

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