The Draft Thread

[Worm Guts]

what's the scoop on harrison smith jeff? worth moving up to get?

I'm not happy with the move personally--I hope I'm wrong though...

Ridiculously panicky move. Nobody between where they took him and where they pick tomorrow was even considering him. They pulled the exat same thing with Chris Cook a couple years ago.

He's better than Tyrell Johnson. I guess that's something.

One of the local radio guys actually mentioned the possibility of trading up for Smith 15 minutes before the draft started. I'm guessing that was a leak and that the Vikings had predetermined they would have to trade up to get him.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

So I was a little taken aback by the Shea McClellin pick by the Bears. Just had never seen him connected to Chicago in any way - so I guess the FO was pretty tight lipped.

I don't know how he'll turn out - but he's exactly the type Iceness talked about Rod Marinelli liking to coach - a high energy/high motor non stop flurry of activity. Seems like a pretty good athlete with some measure of success rushing the passer in college. Heres hoping he can help my good friend Julius Peppers out.

Maybe plays SAM in the base and lines up at DE on nickel packages?

[Da Schwab]

I'm really not too pleased with the David Martin pick. I know it's the end of the first round, but why waste that pick on a complimentary back? I would've been perfectly fine with them waiting back for a RB and taking a guy like Bernard Pierce, or Taurean Poole.

I am happy that they didn't take Fleener, though. I think the ceiling on a top-end TE is a bit shorter than most positions, and I haven't particularly liked the choices they've made in TEs lately.

My perfect pick in that situation would have been either Cordy Glenn, or even Osemele. They need guard help... bad.

[Jaruff]

I briefly went to school with Tauren. High-character guy. Kept good grades, stayed out of trouble, etc. I mean, he's a three-time SEC All-Academic selection so that gives you an idea of the type of guy he is. Hope he does well at the next level and I think he will if he's on the right team. Would have been more highly ranked but his career at Tennessee wasn't that great (not entirely his fault either).

Would have been good on the Giants imo. Would love to see him fall to Carolina in the 5th-6th range and replace Goodson as the 4th RB. Even if he doesn't make it in the NFL, he's in a better position than many of the idiots who can't read a book correctly.

[aggo]

I don't get the AJ Jenkins pick at all.

It's not that they drafted a WR, but that they picked him.

They have all these little WRs on their team, why draft another one? Manningham is a burner, Williams and Ginn are burners, Crabtree works the intermediate routes. Who knows what you get out of Moss.

Now they just drafted another small WR that's a burner. Don't get it at all...

[Cliff Levingston]

what's the scoop on harrison smith jeff? worth moving up to get?

I'm not happy with the move personally--I hope I'm wrong though...

Ridiculously panicky move. Nobody between where they took him and where they pick tomorrow was even considering him. They pulled the exat same thing with Chris Cook a couple years ago.

You had noted in your write-up that you liked the Browns moving up to #3 to ensure they get Richardson. In that case, there was no chance the Vikings take Richardson. Yet, at the same time, you don't like the Vikings moving up from early 2nd to late 1st (6 picks) to get their man in Smith. Seems like the same thing just with lesser talented players; the Vikings just ensured that no one else would trade up and swoop in and trade ahead of them.

[Maritimer]

Awfully happy to see Pittsburgh turning their biggest weakness into a strength. Pouncey, DeCastro, and Gilbert seem like a great young 3 to rebuild an O-line around.

[ohara]

5 guys I hope the Panthers target for #40, and take the best one available:
DE - Curry (dont see any possible way Upshaw lasts to #40. He's a 1st round talent IMO)
DT - Still or Worthy
CB - Johnson
WR - Randle
Of course, I am not Marty Hurney and he may not care for any of these 5. But I think each one would fill a need and would be a good value pick for #40.

[Next Coming]

Awfully happy to see Pittsburgh turning their biggest weakness into a strength. Pouncey, DeCastro, and Gilbert seem like a great young 3 to rebuild an O-line around.

Completely ridiculous they got DeCastro who'll make 10 All Pro Teams by the end of his career. Rich get richer.

[Icness]

Ridiculously panicky move. Nobody between where they took him and where they pick tomorrow was even considering him. They pulled the exat same thing with Chris Cook a couple years ago.

You had noted in your write-up that you liked the Browns moving up to #3 to ensure they get Richardson. In that case, there was no chance the Vikings take Richardson. Yet, at the same time, you don't like the Vikings moving up from early 2nd to late 1st (6 picks) to get their man in Smith. Seems like the same thing just with lesser talented players; the Vikings just ensured that no one else would trade up and swoop in and trade ahead of them.

The Vikings were getting other offers. Tampa had called them repeatedly about moving up, so had KC. Browns were covering their bases because they had legit reason to believe TRich would be gone. I couldn't find you one person in any NFL war room that would have thought Harrison Smith was going to any team between 29 and 35, plus he's not a 1st round talent. TRich is no worse than the 4th-best prospect in this draft, Smith might be top 50, maybe.

[alwayslovetheceltics]

Jeff,
1. any chance Osi gets moved for a pick today?
2. do you think someone will try to jump up to grab Upshaw (before the Ravens). I imagine his absolute lowest falling point is the Jets.
3. what would you think of the Pats jumping up a couple or a few spots against to select Lavonte David? (who they did meet). They also met with Zach Brown and have a dire need a lb who can cover on third downs? Personally I want them to grab David or Kendricks.
4. where do you think Ta'amu ends up?

[Icness]

Jeff,
1. any chance Osi gets moved for a pick today?
2. do you think someone will try to jump up to grab Upshaw (before the Ravens). I imagine his absolute lowest falling point is the Jets.
3. what would you think of the Pats jumping up a couple or a few spots against to select Lavonte David? (who they did meet). They also met with Zach Brown and have a dire need a lb who can cover on third downs? Personally I want them to grab David or Kendricks.
4. where do you think Ta'amu ends up?

1. I don't believe Osi is on the market. He might want to be, but he's a bit paranoid.
2. Upshaw fell in no small part because he bombed interviews, specifically when they asked him to read plays and describe what he saw. Add that with his lack of definable position and his weight gain (up 12 pounds since Jan.) and he could fall a lot tonight as well. My guess is the Jets, but that's no lock.
3. David is going early tonight and he would fit with Belichick, but I think they go secondary early. Look at Demario David or Miles Burris (both of whom I am very high on) tomorrow instead. Kendricks is perfect for the Steelers and they know it.
4. Ta'Amu to Indy at top of 3rd is my guess. Rotate him and Moala, keep those big guys fresh.

[The Emcee]

Any insight into the supposed offers the Rams are getting for 33?

[alwayslovetheceltics]

Jeff,
thanks for the quick reply. I would prefer the PATS try to grab David or Kendricks (if they are there at 48) and draft Brian Quick at 62. I feel like they could trade into the third to grab Chase Minnifield as a CB (or Flemming if he drops). However, If they go Jenkins at CB (which I highly doubt) I would be thrilled.

[Icness]

Any insight into the supposed offers the Rams are getting for 33?

Don't know that they're getting offered, but I've heard a '13 first and a 3rd tonight will get it done.

[Icness]

Is everyone else as pumped as I am about watching RG3 become a star? Dude has a telegenic presence to him like Lebron James before he became a pariah.

[Da Schwab]

Is everyone else as pumped as I am about watching RG3 become a star? Dude has a telegenic presence to him like Lebron James before he became a pariah.

I love the guy. He can really take the nation by storm as the next big sports personality, IMO.

[alwayslovetheceltics]

never mind that. there goes my hope for Quick at 62. somewhat surprised he went before hill although i think Quick will be the better player

Jeff,
thanks for the quick reply. I would prefer the PATS try to grab David or Kendricks (if they are there at 48) and draft Brian Quick at 62. I feel like they could trade into the third to grab Chase Minnifield as a CB (or Flemming if he drops). However, If they go Jenkins at CB (which I highly doubt) I would be thrilled.

[Da Schwab]

Rams lead off with Brian Quick. Wasn't expecting that at all...

[Da Schwab]

And Luck will continue to play with Coby Fleener, which definitely can't hurt his development.