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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#581 » by SpeedyG » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:05 pm

This mock is the best and worst case scenario for the Jaguars at #3: Bridgewater vs. Clowney.

Regardless of who they take, they better make sure they got the right guy because the risk of passing up an elite DE or an elite QB is monumental for a team that has needs for both.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#582 » by gswhoops » Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:15 pm

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gswhoops wrote:Not a question (and no offense to you, Jeff) but I would probably break my TV if the Niners ended up making the moves from your latest Mock.

Do you *think* they'll end up going after big WRs like Benjamin and Coleman (two of my personal least favorite WR prospects in this class)


Hard to say what they're going to do with all those picks until after free agency. I don't mean to cop out, but it is what it is.

But yeah, I do see them going after a bigger wideout. Coleman is probably a reach too far, though Harbaugh's arrogance (not a negative here) probably believes he can coax the best out of him. Coleman has no lower than the 3rd-highest ceiling of any WR in this draft. That's going to be attractive.

Look at Benjamin in the BCS title game and that's him in a nutshell. Had an ugly drop, ran a bad route that led to a negative play, but also made the GW TD and another clutch tough catch after beating very tough coverage. If you're not dependent upon him, he can be a very nice piece to have.

Understandable. I am just not a huge fan (with our track record of not developing WRs) of spending a ton of draft capital to get a "raw but huge potential" type WR, let alone two. But like you say, I could see Harbaugh leading us down that road.

Do you think they'd go after a bigger WR for red zone purposes, or are they scared off the speed guys because of AJJ?
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#583 » by studcrackers » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:55 am

ok jeff, this'll probably seem like a lot of drunken rambling and what not, but hopefully you can make sense of it

last year the cowboys starting d-line was supposed to comprise of anthon spencer, jay ratliff, jason hatcher and demarcus ware.

of course those plans were f*cked b/c of sh*tty doctors and/or f*ckstick players (HI! JAY RATLIFF)

Anyways i dont hate the release of Ware, nor do i like it i guess, i guess i always assumed it'd be worked out in time. but it does bum me out in a sense of he's my favorite cowboys player. you see, im 25, but i never really followed football on a consistent basis until about 99 or the 2000 season, once the cowboys glory days were past their respective primes (though i do remember listening to michael irvin's career being ended on the radio and those cock sucker philly fans cheering for it on the radio)

but ever since shawn merriman got popped for roids, demacrus ware was the best pass rusher in the league for 5+ years. but the last season and a half has been rough. the 2012 concluded w/him playing on less than half an arm and a depleted RGIII running past him (when he could run past no other lineman in the league) and this past season ending no better. You just ended up feeling bad for a player who was once considered the best defender in the league (by sane people. it's a shame he never won a defensive player in the league, due by large part by playing for the dallas cowboys)

but despite me not wanting him gone (due to my love for him) i guess (and it's still a guess) it's time to move on. Because Jerry Jones has been notorious for hanging onto franchise (or less than) players past their worth. and as the old adage goes, it's better to let a guy go a year to early than a year to late.

this move lets us move to re-sign Dez Bryant and Tyron Smith (who are our 2 best players)

but this move of letting our franchise defensive player does leave unquestionable doubt. He's been an all-pro player for years, our other best defensive players can't stay on the field for sh*t (Sean Lee!) we have 0 pass rush threat (unless by some miracle we can bring back Jason Hatcher and Anthony Spencer on cheap deals AND sign Henry Melton) PLUS pass rushers tend to age quite gracefully, meaning Demarcus Ware has some years left.

Either way, im hopeful for the move for the cowboys in the future (since we're absolutely f*cked via the salary cap) and Ware can find a nice home IN THE AFC!!! As it could both shape the mold of both the person and the organization going forwards
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#584 » by ATL Boy » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:28 pm

Now that the Falcons have rebuild the D-Line so to speak, is it a foregone conclusion that we're picking an O-Lineman in the first?
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#585 » by Icness » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:40 pm

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Icness wrote:
gswhoops wrote:Not a question (and no offense to you, Jeff) but I would probably break my TV if the Niners ended up making the moves from your latest Mock.

Do you *think* they'll end up going after big WRs like Benjamin and Coleman (two of my personal least favorite WR prospects in this class)


Hard to say what they're going to do with all those picks until after free agency. I don't mean to cop out, but it is what it is.

But yeah, I do see them going after a bigger wideout. Coleman is probably a reach too far, though Harbaugh's arrogance (not a negative here) probably believes he can coax the best out of him. Coleman has no lower than the 3rd-highest ceiling of any WR in this draft. That's going to be attractive.

Look at Benjamin in the BCS title game and that's him in a nutshell. Had an ugly drop, ran a bad route that led to a negative play, but also made the GW TD and another clutch tough catch after beating very tough coverage. If you're not dependent upon him, he can be a very nice piece to have.

Understandable. I am just not a huge fan (with our track record of not developing WRs) of spending a ton of draft capital to get a "raw but huge potential" type WR, let alone two. But like you say, I could see Harbaugh leading us down that road.

Do you think they'd go after a bigger WR for red zone purposes, or are they scared off the speed guys because of AJJ?


They need a successor to Boldin, a tough guy that can play in traffic as well as get separation (which Boldin cannot) in the red zone. Vance McDonald will be better, but they have to get another viable target. a guy who can separate on his own should be the top quality they're seeking. I would like Robert Herron
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#586 » by Icness » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:40 pm

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Icness wrote:
gswhoops wrote:Not a question (and no offense to you, Jeff) but I would probably break my TV if the Niners ended up making the moves from your latest Mock.

Do you *think* they'll end up going after big WRs like Benjamin and Coleman (two of my personal least favorite WR prospects in this class)


Hard to say what they're going to do with all those picks until after free agency. I don't mean to cop out, but it is what it is.

But yeah, I do see them going after a bigger wideout. Coleman is probably a reach too far, though Harbaugh's arrogance (not a negative here) probably believes he can coax the best out of him. Coleman has no lower than the 3rd-highest ceiling of any WR in this draft. That's going to be attractive.

Look at Benjamin in the BCS title game and that's him in a nutshell. Had an ugly drop, ran a bad route that led to a negative play, but also made the GW TD and another clutch tough catch after beating very tough coverage. If you're not dependent upon him, he can be a very nice piece to have.

Understandable. I am just not a huge fan (with our track record of not developing WRs) of spending a ton of draft capital to get a "raw but huge potential" type WR, let alone two. But like you say, I could see Harbaugh leading us down that road.

Do you think they'd go after a bigger WR for red zone purposes, or are they scared off the speed guys because of AJJ?


They need a successor to Boldin, a tough guy that can play in traffic as well as get separation (which Boldin cannot) in the red zone. Vance McDonald will be better, but they have to get another viable target. a guy who can separate on his own should be the top quality they're seeking. I would like Robert Herron
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#587 » by Icness » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:41 pm

ATL Boy wrote:Now that the Falcons have rebuild the D-Line so to speak, is it a foregone conclusion that we're picking an O-Lineman in the first?


Cannot rule out either Clowney or Khalil Mack.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#588 » by gswhoops » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:46 pm

Icness wrote:They need a successor to Boldin, a tough guy that can play in traffic as well as get separation (which Boldin cannot) in the red zone. Vance McDonald will be better, but they have to get another viable target. a guy who can separate on his own should be the top quality they're seeking. I would like Robert Herron

I like Herron a lot as a 3rd/4th rounder. My ideal outcome is trading up and nabbing Mike Evans though. Any chance he falls past the Rams at #13? Trading up from 30 into the top-12 is prohibitively expensive, IMO.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#589 » by Icness » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:10 pm

gswhoops wrote:
Icness wrote:They need a successor to Boldin, a tough guy that can play in traffic as well as get separation (which Boldin cannot) in the red zone. Vance McDonald will be better, but they have to get another viable target. a guy who can separate on his own should be the top quality they're seeking. I would like Robert Herron

I like Herron a lot as a 3rd/4th rounder. My ideal outcome is trading up and nabbing Mike Evans though. Any chance he falls past the Rams at #13? Trading up from 30 into the top-12 is prohibitively expensive, IMO.


To make sure you can get Evans you need to get ahead of Buffalo at 9. He could fall as far as 15 but that's unlikely.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#590 » by Da Schwab » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:34 pm

With the Browns dumping both Weeden and Campbell, it's even more obvious they want to go QB in the first round. Do you think there's any chance they package picks to try and jump to #2 to snag whoever Houston doesn't take? Or is it a sure thing that one of either Johnny or Teddy are there at #4?

And, do you think there's any team out there that would take a QB in the first or second that we wouldn't expect a la the Packers getting Rodgers in 05?
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#591 » by studcrackers » Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:26 am

in jeff's last mock he had manziel going 23rd overall. if he does slide, i'll bet anything that jerry would not pass him up at 16
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#592 » by hermes » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:34 pm

studcrackers wrote:in jeff's last mock he had manziel going 23rd overall. if he does slide, i'll bet anything that jerry would not pass him up at 16

how long would manziel (or the cowboy fans) be content with him sitting behind romo? surely manziel would want to start right away and it seems everybody is always looking for romo's head
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#593 » by studcrackers » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:30 pm

you already have jackasses who do that. but yes it would be ramped up to the nth degree. especially once romo has his 1st game where he throws a late game int.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#594 » by gswhoops » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:36 pm

studcrackers wrote:you already have jackasses who do that. but yes it would be ramped up to the nth degree. especially once romo has his 1st game where he throws a late game int.

Also, isn't it pretty much financially impossible to get rid of Romo for the next couple years? Can't imagine they'd spend a 1st round pick on a QB who was either going to sit for two years or make Romo into a $20M benchwarmer.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#595 » by studcrackers » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:28 pm

I think after next year they can get rid of him and it wouldn't hurt. They're gonna have to get a qb sooner than later, Romo's 34 has a f*cked up back and isn't the most durable guy in the world. All that and Kyle Orton's contemplating retirement this year or next
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#596 » by gswhoops » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:01 pm

studcrackers wrote:I think after next year they can get rid of him and it wouldn't hurt. They're gonna have to get a qb sooner than later, Romo's 34 has a f*cked up back and isn't the most durable guy in the world. All that and Kyle Orton's contemplating retirement this year or next

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Post#597 » by penquin11 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:45 pm

Now that the panthers have lost everyone and anyone, who do you see us going with in the first? What positions will we draft with our first 3 picks?
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#598 » by righterwriter » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:00 pm

Hey Jeff...now that the first few rounds of FA signings have taken place, how about a $.10 article on what you liked and didn't like? I'd really enjoy reading your take on player movement.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#599 » by Icness » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:35 am

penquin11 wrote:Now that the panthers have lost everyone and anyone, who do you see us going with in the first? What positions will we draft with our first 3 picks?


Have to add a WR, a safety, and OL help. Not sure there's a legit starting wideout on the roster now with Smith, LaFell and Ginn all gone. Their tackle situation is Byron Bell, a below-average RT, and a bunch of street free agents and castoffs.

My next mock (end of week at earliest) will likely have either Odell Beckham or Kelvin Benjamin in the first. But keep an eye on Clemson T Brandon Thomas as a potential 1st rounder for them.
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Re: 2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question 

Post#600 » by Icness » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:36 am

righterwriter wrote:Hey Jeff...now that the first few rounds of FA signings have taken place, how about a $.10 article on what you liked and didn't like? I'd really enjoy reading your take on player movement.


Posted today, and thanks!
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