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Early Entrants

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:02 am
by Icness
In:
Lamar Miller, RB, Miami
Justin Blackmon, WR, Okahoma State
Ryan Kalil, T, USC
Nick Perry, DE, USC
Marcus Fortson, DT, Miami
Olivier Vernon, DE, Miami
Lamichael James, RB, Oregon
Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami
Cliff Harris, CB, Oregon
David Decastro, G, Stanford
Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford

Out:
Manti Teo, LB, Notre Dame
Matt Barkley, QB, USC
TJ McDonald, S, USC
Kenny Tate, S/LB, Maryland

Applied for NFL eval committee:
RB David Wilson-Virginia Tech
RB Montee Ball-Wisconsin
CB Jonathan Banks-Mississippi State
LB Kevin Reddick-UNC
TE Tyler Eifert-Notre Dame
LB Brandon Jenkins-FSU
CB Xavier Rhodes-FSU
TE Dwayne Allen-Clemson
WR Chris Givens-Wake Forest
OC Ben Habern-Oklahoma
WR Aaron Dobson-Marshall
DE Chandler Jones-Syracuse
DB Shamarko Thomas-Syracuse
DB Bacarri Rambo-Georgia
DE Devin Taylor-South Carolina
WR Alshon Jeffrey-South Carolina
CB Stephen Gilmore-South Carolina
SS DeVonte Holloman-South Carolina
FS D.J. Swearinger-South Carolina
DT John Jenkins-Georgia
RB Andre Ellington-Clemson
LB Cornelius Washington-UGA
OC Peter Konz-Wisconsin

I'll try to keep updating this but my internet time will be extremely limited over the next 10 days. My parents have no WiFi and their internet connection is in the room that doubles as a kid bedroom.

Update 1/5:
In:
Alshon Jeffery
Stephon Gilmore
Jerel Worthy
Jayron Hosley
Mohammed Sanu
Whitney Mercilus
Riley Reiff
Fletcher Cox
Vontaze Burfict
Ronnie HIllman
Donte Paige-Moss
Chris Polk
Chris Givens
Ronnell Lewis

Out:
Landry Jones
Montee Ball

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:10 am
by Icness
Quick thoughts:
--Lamar Miller is better than advertised. Could be top 15 pick.
--Fortson is overrated.
--Cliff Harris is real talented but he is one bad dude. When Oregon asks you leave you know there are problems beyond acceptable.
--I like Barkley returning, heading into next year as Luck did this year. Very little to lose on his part and he probably will go higher in 13 than 12.

Grapevine stuff:
--Dwayne Allen is coming out
--Jonathan Banks is coming out
--Stephon Gilmore is coming out and South Carolina will help him clean out his locker
--Chandler Jones is coming out and he's better than advertised
--Dontari Poe is shopping agents as I write this
--Bernard Pierce is strongly leaning towards coming out
--Reuben Randle will come out unless he gets hurt in the title game

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:17 am
by studcrackers
would barkley be a top 7 or so pick if he came out this year (and possibly top 4?) will he be projected #1 going into next year?

also, what's the chances of rgIII coming back and tryin to lead baylor to their 1st big 12 title?

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:20 pm
by Icness
Barkley was not going to fall any further than where Seattle could maneuver to draft him, which with their 1st and a 2nd would be somewhere around 5-8. The Browns had major interest and they could pick as high a 4th.

I think RGIII is coming out but he's doing a good job keeping people in the dark.

Early Entrants

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:33 pm
by Da Schwab
Why are so many South Carolina guys leaving? Are they all first day talents, or is The Ol' Ball Coach losing kids left and right?

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:38 pm
by Icness
Da Schwab wrote:Why are so many South Carolina guys leaving? Are they all first day talents, or is The Ol' Ball Coach losing kids left and right?


A little of this, a little of that...

Spurrier has always been very NFL and agent friendly on campus, so that probably has something to do with it.

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:32 am
by kdawg32086
I don't think Lamichael James is in the draft...didn't he come out and say it was a false report?

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:50 pm
by Next Coming
Matt Barkley was a guaranteed Top 10 pick. He would've went as high as #4 to Cleveland or as low as #10 to Buffalo.

I can pretty much guarantee Lamar Miller will be playing in Ohio next year. Whether it's the Browns or Bengals we'll have to see but they both have 2 1st Round Picks and can take on a 1st Round RB.

Dalton/Miller/Green would make pretty good triplets.

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:46 pm
by Jaruff
Icness wrote:
Da Schwab wrote:Why are so many South Carolina guys leaving? Are they all first day talents, or is The Ol' Ball Coach losing kids left and right?


A little of this, a little of that...

Spurrier has always been very NFL and agent friendly on campus, so that probably has something to do with it.


:nod:

Gilmore leaving does not surprise me at all and I've expected it the whole season. Devin Taylor is probably gone too but I think Holloman and Swearinger return. Not too sure about Jeffrey right now; he was hurt by the QB switch this year and he may not want to risk another season of QB issues to drop him even further.

To me, Taylor is a 1st and Gilmore is a 3-5th though I see him going no later than the 2nd. I still believe Jeffrey is the best WR in college football but he lacks the QB that some of the others, including Blackmon, have. I feel that Holloman and Swearinger are better than Gilmore but both could use another season to refine their games.

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Wed Jan 4, 2012 9:06 am
by PhilipNelsonFan
LaMichael James is absolutely gone, just a matter of when he announces at this point.

Rumor among Oregon circles is that Kenjon Barner will declare alongside him. I've gotten to know Barner a bit; he's an excellent person and a good back in his own right, if not QUITE everything that LaMichael is. But if he comes out, is there any market for him?

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Wed Jan 4, 2012 8:21 pm
by hermes
riley reiff declared

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 7:34 pm
by Jaruff
I'm hearing that Alshon Jeffrey will stay for his senior season since he wants to pass Sidney Rice's records. Also hearing that the other SC players besides Gilmore will be back too but that's just rumors right now.

I haven't heard much about the Georgia players but I'd be surprised if Andre Ellington declares, especially after the royal ass whipping WVU gave the Tigers last night.

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 10:19 pm
by Jaruff
Looks like I was wrong. Jeffrey announced today that he's entering the draft. Oh well, great player and he'll be missed.

His stock took a hit this season though. Someone will get a good deal like the Cowboys got with Dez Bryant.

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 11:08 pm
by Icness
I edited the OP to pick up some recent declarations. Thoughts on a few:

Jeffery has GOT to run very well to get into the first round. Game tape is not kind for his ability to get separation and it looks like he gained weight (a bad thing) during the season. He's dangerously reminiscent of Mike Williams, the USC one not the Syracuse one.

Donte Paige-Moss is going to be one of those guys you read about in one of those "what the hell happened to that guy" pieces they run all the time. He was overrated coming into the season, a complete one-trick pony speed rusher. He played like crap, got benched for playing like crap and then tried to trash his coach and teammates for his benching. He tweets like an illiterate ignoramus. Oh, and he tore his ACL in their bowl game and won't be able to work out, or likely play next season. Two years ago he was a better, more productive prospet than Coples. Now he's going to have to get very lucky to just get drafted. He'll wind up being a janitor at the high school where he dominated and the kids will point at him like, "That's the dude that got all those trophies in the case. Now he mops up our vomit" and laugh.

Ronnie Hillman and Chris Polk are both solid mid-round runners that can play. There's a huge glut of those guys this year, smart move by Montee Ball to stick around in Madison.

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 11:15 pm
by Icness
PhilipNelsonFan wrote:LaMichael James is absolutely gone, just a matter of when he announces at this point.

Rumor among Oregon circles is that Kenjon Barner will declare alongside him. I've gotten to know Barner a bit; he's an excellent person and a good back in his own right, if not QUITE everything that LaMichael is. But if he comes out, is there any market for him?


I think he's about two rounds behind James, probably 5th round. He can help himself if he bulks up a little, he seems pretty slight of build. He has some Felix Jones to him though.

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Fri Jan 6, 2012 12:23 am
by Roger Murdock
Icness wrote:I edited the OP to pick up some recent declarations. Thoughts on a few:

Jeffery has GOT to run very well to get into the first round. Game tape is not kind for his ability to get separation and it looks like he gained weight (a bad thing) during the season. He's dangerously reminiscent of Mike Williams, the USC one not the Syracuse one.

Donte Paige-Moss is going to be one of those guys you read about in one of those "what the hell happened to that guy" pieces they run all the time. He was overrated coming into the season, a complete one-trick pony speed rusher. He played like crap, got benched for playing like crap and then tried to trash his coach and teammates for his benching. He tweets like an illiterate ignoramus. Oh, and he tore his ACL in their bowl game and won't be able to work out, or likely play next season. Two years ago he was a better, more productive prospet than Coples. Now he's going to have to get very lucky to just get drafted. He'll wind up being a janitor at the high school where he dominated and the kids will point at him like, "That's the dude that got all those trophies in the case. Now he mops up our vomit" and laugh.

Ronnie Hillman and Chris Polk are both solid mid-round runners that can play. There's a huge glut of those guys this year, smart move by Montee Ball to stick around in Madison.


This is the greatest prospect breakdown I have ever seen.

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:19 am
by PhilipNelsonFan
Brock Osweiler and Bernard Pierce both entered their names. Calling it now: Osweiler doesn't slip below No. 20 overall.

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2012 8:09 am
by kdawg32086
PhilipNelsonFan wrote:Brock Osweiler and Bernard Pierce both entered their names. Calling it now: Osweiler doesn't slip below No. 20 overall.


Oh God, I pity the team who does that.

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2012 9:30 pm
by Icness
Osweiler is an intriguing prospect. He's certainly ahead of Nick Foles. The very brief impression of him is he's Ryan Mallett with foot speed. If this draft season goes like last year then top 20 is certainly possible. And I pity that team too.

Pierce could surprise a lot of people as the draft season goes on. I think he's a 2nd round talent that most guys have slotted 4th/5th round right now.

Re: Early Entrants

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2012 12:21 am
by trwi7
Peter Konz declared.