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I mean, I just don't get it. I like Brady Quinn, but what is the point of bringing in a QB, if he is going to get killed behind our disaster of an o-line? I just don't see how the Browns can fail to address their need on the offensive line for what, the 9th straight year?

If Joe Thomas is taken by Detroit, or Arizona trades up for him like I have projected in my mock draft, then I think the only logical move for the Browns woud be to trade down for a later top 10 pick, and take Levi Brown. I like Peterson also, but the same thing as with Quinn, no o-line=no running/passing game.

If the Browns do this, and Frye still fails as our QB, then we can draft Henne or Brohm next year. But this year is too early to be giving up on Frye, and Quinn would get killed, and would be classified as a "bust."

They signed two good guards, so their blocking won't be as bad.

History? Browns have seemingly always had a porous OL, and seemingly always ha a high pick, but they haven't fixed it, despite there being a worthy tackle available almost every draft.

Lennie Friedman? Not exactly my first choice. I think we will do fine with the guards, as we also have Joe Andruzzi. It is LT I am worried about. That is the guy that protects the QB's blind side, and is the most important position on the o-line. No LT=no passing/running game.

LBJ4MVP23 wrote:I mean, I just don't get it. I like Brady Quinn, but what is the point of bringing in a QB, if he is going to get killed behind our disaster of an o-line? I just don't see how the Browns can fail to address their need on the offensive line for what, the 9th straight year?

If Joe Thomas is taken by Detroit, or Arizona trades up for him like I have projected in my mock draft, then I think the only logical move for the Browns woud be to trade down for a later top 10 pick, and take Levi Brown. I like Peterson also, but the same thing as with Quinn, no o-line=no running/passing game.

If the Browns do this, and Frye still fails as our QB, then we can draft Henne or Brohm next year. But this year is too early to be giving up on Frye, and Quinn would get killed, and would be classified as a "bust."

I think with the money they dropped on Steinbach they arent going to spend a ton more on the o-line. They can probably get the big guy Ugoh from Arkansas early in round 2 and possibly have Joe Staley drop to that pick. I think its Quinn with their first, whether it works out or not i think that's the pick.

The Browns OL has a hole at C, but the rest of the line could (could!) be quite solid. If Tucker comes back fine, and I've seen firsthand that he's physically fine and mentally strong again, they move Shaffer to RT. While neither of those guys is Pro Bowl material, both are solid starters. Not insignificant is that both of those guys make decent $$, plus Steinbach and Bentley are still the 2 highest paid players on the roster. They have too many other glaring weaknesses, and Phil Savage knows that, to spend even more huge $$ on the OL. Their DL is in far worse shape than the OL.

but Ice, doesn't the #3 pick this yr project to a salary of around 5mil/yr?? That seems like a steal to find a franchise LT.

Out of curiosity why is there no Adrian Peterson option in this poll?
edit: Nevermind I see it now.

If we draft Thomas I will be quite upset. As much as people say that we dont address our O-Line, just look at all of the money we have invested in it. I think our O-Line will be solid, certaintly the best its been since the Browns came back in the league.

Taking an O-lineman in the 2nd round seems like the right place to do it, as there should be a couple quality options there. Anything we can do to get Andruzzi off the field and I will be happy.

If Jamarcus is there its a no brainer for Savage. After that its between Brady, Adrian, and trading down. The coaching staff, mostly Crennel, are pulling hard for Quinn because Romeo is trying to do everything he can to have the best season possible in order to save his job. Savage might be leaning more towards Peterson and looking more for the long run. I may be waay off base with this and Ice can probably clear it up, but thats the rumor Ive heard.

wouldnt drafting a qb make more sense towards drafting for the future then rb's? because qb's always take a while to develop and cleveland probably wouldnt see success right away where as if peterson was drafted they might win a couple more games since rookie rb's can usually thrive right away.

I think anytime you can get a franchise QB for the next 10 years when you currently don't have one, you should. Quinn may never be Joe Montana, but he can be a smart QB who will make plays and win games and give the Browns an icon for the team as his hometown is Dublin, Ohio. The Browns could always take a OT in Round 2.

Your mock sucks.

Arizona has said numerous times that they don't want to trade up.


Your former FB and leader, Terrelle Smith has said on numerous radio appearances that Cleveland wants to more of a passing team.(Hence him being released.) They want to use Vickers more since he has better hands than Smith, so if Brady Quinn is available, he will be the pick.

Even if they don't take Quinn, do you really think 53 year old Jamaal Lewis is your answer at RB?

If you don't take Quinn, it will be Peterson. Both appear to be available to you..So don't be surprised if they don't take Thomas.

Ugh. It wouldn't submit my post, so I just lost what I wrote.

The first reason why we shouldn't take Quinn is that we already have Frye. I am in no way whatsoever comparing Frye to Quinn, but, the Browns shouldn't be giving up on their 3rd round pick from two years ago, especially when last year was his first year starting. Give him another year, and then reassess Frye.

The 2nd reason is that the Browns need to win NOW. I don't mean they need to make the playoffs, but they need to give our fans some hope. I expect to at least get back to 2005 form next season. Taking Quinn doesn't help us do that, as, in a best case scenario, he is starting for us at midseason. Thomas, or if we trade down, Brown, would help us win now, because they would almost assuredly, paired with Steinbach, help Frye become a more productive QB. Quinn may become the so-called "face of the franchise", but wasn't the same said about Tim Couch when he was our first draft pick since we came back 8 years ago?

The last reason we shouldn't take Quinn is because he would get killed behind our o-line. I understand that the Browns signed Steinbach, but he is a guard and will help more with the running game. The position on the o-line that helps the passing game the most is LT. (RT if you have a lefthanded QB.) Shaffer and Tucker are good players, but we need a stud now and for the future. Thomas or Brown would both be that stud IMO. I think if the Browns had a good o-line when Couch was here, he would have had a much more successful career in Cleveland. There is no proof that Couch was that bad. IMO, I think it was our o-line, and Couch really never got a chance to show his (potential) talent.

If the Browns take Thomas or Brown, and Frye doesn't show any improvement this year, then I will be all for taking Henne/Brohm next year in the first round. But you can't assess a problem if you don't give the potential problem pieces around him. If the Browns fail to address o-line this year on the first day, preferably the first round, then I will be posting this same exact topic next year with next year's top o-line prospects.

Thomas isn't talked about because of the Browns terrible drafting. Normally I don't believe in the best player available unless its in the late rounds. But the Browns right now need the best player available. A player who is pro bowl caliber, plus someone who don't get injured for the whole season. Peterson would be a great choice, another rb talked about from the great tradition of running backs for the Browns.

YES!!! The Browns picked Thomas!!! Showed you all!!!

Yeah, I've been a Thomas advocate since the season ended. Fact is the Browns line was unbelieveably porous last year. I think they've done some things to help, but there is still at least one hole and Thomas will help tremendously.

Well, it looks like the Browns got Thomas AND Quinn. In this case, I was ecstatic to get Quinn. I still am not over the fact that the Browns gave up next year's 1st round pick just to move up 14 spots. However, I guess Quinn could've gone as high as number 3. So, I have mixed feelings, but with Thomas on board, I think Quinn can perform very well.