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Mock draft v4.0 is up

Posted: Tue Mar 4, 2008 11:30 pm
by Icness
Posted today but basically completed over the weekend. 3 full rounds and it's based off personnel moves through Monday morning.

This one is the "what I expect will happen" mock, not the "what Mr. Risdon would do" version, which I'll post for fun here sometime pretty soon. They do not look anything alike right now.

I've got very solid info for about half the teams regarding their draft preferences. Some of the other teams are fairly easy to read. Some I'm a blind monkey throwing darts--unlike a lot of folks who do these I'll admit to not knowing everything about every team's draft decisions.

Note that I do not like to check out other mocks while I'm formulating mine, so any close resemblances are either:
1. Other people privy to the same info I have, or
2. Purely coincidental

http://www.realgmfootball.com/src_feature_article/79/20080304/2008_nfl_mock_draft_version_40/

Posted: Tue Mar 4, 2008 11:40 pm
by CJ_18
haha, washington ethnic slurs.

I like my teams picks but i did read off of scout.com that chargers GM AJ Smith was in 'high praise' after attending the U of Miami pro day..obviously checking out Kenny Phillips.

Obviously you have very reliable sources but what is the story? and have you heard anything about the Chargers trying to trade some veterans for draft picks in the 2-4 rounds..where they currently have none?

Posted: Tue Mar 4, 2008 11:51 pm
by hermes
not sure about the vikes first rounder
i'm ok with the others, especially donnie in the 3rd

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 12:01 am
by Monkeyfeng06
don't think bengals will target harvey. we will definitely pick ellis if he's available.

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 12:14 am
by lpsevier
Henne over Brohm for the Falcons....I'm not sure if I like that when both are available.

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 12:16 am
by Icness
CJ_18 wrote:haha, washington ethnic slurs.

I like my teams picks but i did read off of scout.com that chargers GM AJ Smith was in 'high praise' after attending the U of Miami pro day..obviously checking out Kenny Phillips.

Obviously you have very reliable sources but what is the story? and have you heard anything about the Chargers trying to trade some veterans for draft picks in the 2-4 rounds..where they currently have none?


Honestly I went back and forth with Phillips as that pick. It wouldn't surprise me. AJ Smith is not on my speed dial or anything, but I do think they're looking to move down 10-15 slots, and their pick is prime range for a team looking to trade up to get Brohm or Henne or a RB like Jones or Stewart, if he falls a little.

Re: Mock draft v4.0 is up

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 12:28 am
by FakeScreenName123
Icness wrote:Sleeper pick: Rashard Mendenhall.



Yo, Icness, dude. How you gunna leave a man hangin like that?


Mendenhall? sleeper pick? For the Patriots? What?


Is this your guess or stuff you are hearing or something else?

Re: Mock draft v4.0 is up

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 12:42 am
by Icness
FakeScreenName123 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




Yo, Icness, dude. How you gunna leave a man hangin like that?


Mendenhall? sleeper pick? For the Patriots? What?


Is this your guess or stuff you are hearing or something else?


You're going to hear a lot about how some teams rate Mendenhall as high or higher than McFadden in the coming weeks. Trust me when I tell you the Pats are one of those teams, and I know they do no want to rely on Maroney staying healthy for 16 games as a workhorse back. It's not all that likely, but it's not a big reach either.

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 1:45 am
by Pax for Prez
Help !!!

I must be blind ??

I click on the link and it leads to J. Rison's draft ?

Where's Iceness Draft ? After reading this thread and hearing Mendenhall for the Pats I need to read this NOW !

Thanks Pax

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 1:59 am
by NoSkyy
Pax for Prez wrote:Help !!!

I must be blind ??

I click on the link and it leads to J. Rison's draft ?

Where's Iceness Draft ? After reading this thread and hearing Mendenhall for the Pats I need to read this NOW !

Thanks Pax


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:-?

Must be the first draft I've seen with Josh Johnson going to the Bears. Is there any insider info/merit/stuff to the pick or just what you see happening?

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 2:49 am
by deeney0
Wow, Derrick Harvey has certainly shot up while I wasn't paying attention. What caused that?

What's Jack Ikegwuonu's future? I know he interviewed at the combine despite the torn ACL. Somebody is going to take a chance on him, right? How high? He seemed to be a borderline 1st day selection before the unfortunate injury.

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 3:02 am
by Pax for Prez
[quote="NoSkyy"]-= original quote snipped =-



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:-?



Sorry for my 1st post ....speed reading or misreading kills !!!

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 3:21 am
by Jose7
No way CLong drops to 6... If he does, wow.

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 3:50 am
by Pax for Prez
Icness

You don't see RB Jamaal Charles of Texas in the top 3 rounds ?

I thought he had a good showing in Indy to be a second round pick.

Re: Mock draft v4.0 is up

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 5:06 am
by FakeScreenName123
Icness wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



You're going to hear a lot about how some teams rate Mendenhall as high or higher than McFadden in the coming weeks. Trust me when I tell you the Pats are one of those teams, and I know they do no want to rely on Maroney staying healthy for 16 games as a workhorse back. It's not all that likely, but it's not a big reach either.


cool.

Re: Mock draft v4.0 is up

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 9:18 am
by SHO'NUFF
Icness wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



You're going to hear a lot about how some teams rate Mendenhall as high or higher than McFadden in the coming weeks. Trust me when I tell you the Pats are one of those teams, and I know they do no want to rely on Maroney staying healthy for 16 games as a workhorse back. It's not all that likely, but it's not a big reach either.



Image

The Million Dollar Man. :D

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 9:28 am
by SHO'NUFF
ESPN's Scouts Inc. currently has Mendenahall as the #8 Prospect.

http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/index



Scouts Inc.'s Top 32


Player /Pos. /School /Grade

1. Darren McFadden RB Arkansas 99
2. Chris Long DE Virginia 98
3. Jake Long OT Michigan 98
4. Glenn Dorsey DT LSU 98
5. Matt Ryan QB Boston Coll. 98
6. Sedrick Ellis DT USC 97
7. Vernon Gholston DE Ohio State 96
8. Rashard Mendenhall RB Illinois 96
9. Ryan Clady OT Boise St. 95
10. Leodis McKelvin CB Troy 95
11. Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt 95
12. Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon 94
13. Keith Rivers OLB USC 94
14. Mike Jenkins CB S. Florida 94
15. Derrick Harvey DE Florida 93
16. Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma 93
17. Phillip Merling DE Clemson 92
18. Limas Sweed WR Texas 92
19. Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh 92
20. Kentwan Balmer DT N. Carolina 92
21. Dan Connor OLB Penn State 92
22. DeSean Jackson WR California 91
23. Brian Brohm QB Louisville 91
24. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tenn. St. 91
25. James Hardy WR Indiana 90
26. Aqib Talib CB Kansas 90
27. Mario Manningham* WR Michigan 89
28. Branden Albert G Virginia 89
29. Devin Thomas WR Michigan St. 88
30. Fred Davis TE USC 88
31. Calais Campbell RB Arkansas 88
32. Early Doucet WR LSU 87

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 1:00 pm
by Icness
Pax for Prez wrote:Icness

You don't see RB Jamaal Charles of Texas in the top 3 rounds ?

I thought he had a good showing in Indy to be a second round pick.


He very well could, just couldn't find a spot for him in this one. His fumbling and God-awful pass protection are enough reasons for him to drop. He does hold the Big 12 record for lost fumbles in a season.

RB stock and slotting after the first 3 is incredibly difficult to predict this year. Felix Jones could go to Dallas with one of their picks, but he could also fall to the top of the 3rd. Chris Johnson could go anywhere between 40 and 90, ditto Kevin Smith. The general impression I get is that teams are in no hurry to grab a RB early when other needs or more talented prospects at other positions (WR, T, and CB in this draft) are on the board. Call it the Ryan Grant/Willie Parker/Selvin Young factor.

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 1:09 pm
by Icness
deeney0 wrote:Wow, Derrick Harvey has certainly shot up while I wasn't paying attention. What caused that?

What's Jack Ikegwuonu's future? I know he interviewed at the combine despite the torn ACL. Somebody is going to take a chance on him, right? How high? He seemed to be a borderline 1st day selection before the unfortunate injury.


Harvey will be overdrafted based on potential impact as a pass rusher in the same manner that Jamaal Anderson was last year. He's already a better overall player than Jarvis Moss, who played pretty well as a rookie as the #17 pick last year.

Ikegwuono is ideally suited for the compensatory selections at the top of Rounds 4 or 5, much the way Michael Bush was last year--potential top 40 talent but with a major injury that will likely cause him to miss his entire rookie year. I don't see teams willing to miss out on a year and possibly get nothing ever out of him any higher than that. FYI--Mario Manningham talked him up in interviews, so did James Hardy to a lesser extent. When one team interviewed Hardy the plays they broke down were against Wisconsin.

Posted: Wed Mar 5, 2008 1:33 pm
by dms269
Good with Dorsey in the first. Henne over Brohm, really?
I don't like a cb in the first unless we trade d-hall.