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Some quick random thoughts that might answer some questions...
--I very strongly believe the statement I wrote about the players being franchised and then dealt is going to happen to at least two of those guys. Peppers is a virtual certainty, and the Panthers are most certainly in the market for a QB of the future. Delhomme is signed thru next season and I know they don't want to feel stuck to him. They are a perfect destination for Mark Sanchez. This is me just thinking out loud and has no basis, but consider this one:
The 49ers trade the #10 pick, the #74 pick, and a conditional 2010 pick (call it a 3rd) for Peppers. Carolina takes Sanchez at #10.

--this particular version has the RB crop going the way of the WR last year. I think that right now, where I have Moreno is about as hig as any RB will go, and I highly doubt Wells falls as far as this. It's that next tier of backs that is highly variable. I can see McCoy, both Browns, Greene, perhaps Johnson and even Arian Foster all being 2nd rounders just as easily as I can see this.

--one of the feelings I got talking to coaches and personnel people in Mobile is that consistency of performance and football IQ are being stressed. Teams are tired of guys who play great for a quarter and then disappear (think Anthony Gonzalez or Charles Tillman), or fluctuate wildly from week to week (think Santana Moss or Dre Bly). They want someone they can rely on all the time, even if the top end isn't quite as high. That is absolutely killing the stocks of Michael Johnson and Macho Harris, and to a lesser extent Brian Cushing and Josh Freeman.

--so many new regimes makes forecasting a lot tougher. There is a lot more guesswork in this mock than those from this same time frame in prior years.

Looks good from TB. I like the Munnerlyn pick to TB simply based on the fact that he has and awesome name. Could you imagine a Aqib Talib - Sabby Piscitelli - Captain Munnerlyn secondary?

Is Tate's stock really back up that high after his season ending injury? I loved him early in the season but it seems like team's would be a little skeptical.

Just wanted to add those comments real quick, still looking it over. I'll add more later.

Curious about Maclin. I think Mel has him going to Jacksonville. Even though he's picked 17th overall in your mock, would you be surprised if Maclin is picked in the top 10?

I'd be pissed if the Bears didn't take Sanchez in that slot and it depresses me that you think the Bears have no interest in a QB. Because, it's probably true.

Who does Nicks remind you of?

I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that the Jet's third rounder goes to the Pack?

Modern_epic wrote:I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that the Jet's third rounder goes to the Pack?

It did, we have the Saint's third rounder.

As far as the Jet draft goes im not a fan of taking a WR in the first round unless his name his Crabtree. Id be fine with a Britt, Williams or Tate selection in the second round. Its just hard to pass up on Sanchez for Maclin. Id imagine the press conference going just like the Dolphins one with Ginn, your going to love him as a returner. It didnt work with Santana when we tried that, though that was ages ago and we tried it with a QB with no arm. Im assuming this is the Deseason Jackson effect? I just think with Westhoff returning and Washington to return and Smith to do wildcats it makes little sense though I seem to be in the minority with that. Id much rather trade down before taking Maclin as high as 17 though it appears a lot of people have him going earlier. I like Mickins, have no problem with that. However Rhett Bomar dont really thrill me. I suppose he can start climbing up the boards once the combine comes around but the little I have read and seen of him dont thrill me. Id still give a chance to Clemens or Ratliff before wanting to draft a day one QB.

Rafael122 wrote:Curious about Maclin. I think Mel has him going to Jacksonville. Even though he's picked 17th overall in your mock, would you be surprised if Maclin is picked in the top 10?

I think he could go as high as #6 to Cincy. His speed with his size is going to be real hard for some teams to pass. If he runs the 4.25 some people think he will, he could usurp Crabtree as the first WR off the board. Doubt it, but nobody thought Donnie Avery would be the #1 WR in last draft...and then generally live up to it.

WAYSA wrote:I'd be pissed if the Bears didn't take Sanchez in that slot and it depresses me that you think the Bears have no interest in a QB. Because, it's probably true.

Who does Nicks remind you of?

Taking his persona into account, Michael Irvin. He's going to make a killing catching 75-90 balls a year over the middle and on double-move patterns. He has some Andre Johnson trappings but he's not that fast or physical.

icness do you think return ability is vastly overrated when it comes to the draft, particularly for 1st rounders and do gm's often really take it into heavy consideration when considering there picks?

Icness, how do you think the new regime in Detroit feels about Drew Stanton? Would that, in any way make them hold another year on QB? I mean he was held back by the previous coaching staff, but I don't think he was any worse than what we had on the field a year ago.

I personally think they should go Stafford #1, best available OT at #20, CB at #33 and OG/DL with the third rounders...

Icness, do you have any basis on Moreno going to the Eagles..
The reason im asking is because I think he is perfect for the eagles and eventually replace westbrook. But the idea of Andy Reid picking a RB in the 1st round is...well to put it this way..if he does pick Moreno..I will go outside my house and scream Icness is god!

Ravens take the first corner in the first round? Do you think they will shore up the secondary through free agency or are they planning to put Samari Rolle's corpse out there.

I very much respect your picks for the Packers. Ted Thompson would be criticized, rightfully so, horribly for not focusing od defense and offensive line in the draft.

UrbanLegendMD wrote:Ravens take the first corner in the first round? Do you think they will shore up the secondary through free agency or are they planning to put Samari Rolle's corpse out there.

Not speaking on behalf of Iceness here but McAlister is probably not coming back so drafting a corner makes sense. They will probably look into drafting a linebacker considering they might lose Lewis, Scott, or Suggs.

wow, beanie at 31st? i had no idea his injury was that serious.

xSABOx wrote:Icness, how do you think the new regime in Detroit feels about Drew Stanton? Would that, in any way make them hold another year on QB? I mean he was held back by the previous coaching staff, but I don't think he was any worse than what we had on the field a year ago.

I personally think they should go Stafford #1, best available OT at #20, CB at #33 and OG/DL with the third rounders...

I don't have a real good feel on what they think of Stanton. I do know that Martin Mayhew wasn't in favor of drafting him where they did. A good indicator will be if they bring Orlovsky back, because it will be one or the other along with Culpepper and whomever they draft.

I do know they prefer Sanchez to Stafford, at least certain important people there do. And they just hired another one today in Shack Harris (GREAT hire!). I have a feeling his opinion is going to carry a lot of weight on Stanton and the draft as a whole.

studcrackers wrote:icness do you think return ability is vastly overrated when it comes to the draft, particularly for 1st rounders and do gm's often really take it into heavy consideration when considering there picks?

Excellent question. I personally think that the difference between an acceptable return man and a great return man is so thin and so fleeting that it shouldn't mean too much. The dramatic falloff of Devin Hester and so many others (Dante Hall, Eddie Drummond, Michael Lewis) for no apparent reason makes me value it less than a lot of people.

I do think it can be a value-added option, as with Maclin this year or J.L. Higgins and Ginn a couple years ago. If the receivign skills are comparable, then the great return man should be valued higher. I think that's what most teams think, though the Patriots drafted a straight return man last year and the Bears basically did that with Hester. Taking Maclin as an example, he's probably going to be a top 15 pick thanks to his return skills. Take those out of the equation and he's probably not a top 25 pick.

Icness wrote:

xSABOx wrote:Icness, how do you think the new regime in Detroit feels about Drew Stanton? Would that, in any way make them hold another year on QB? I mean he was held back by the previous coaching staff, but I don't think he was any worse than what we had on the field a year ago.

I personally think they should go Stafford #1, best available OT at #20, CB at #33 and OG/DL with the third rounders...

I don't have a real good feel on what they think of Stanton. I do know that Martin Mayhew wasn't in favor of drafting him where they did. A good indicator will be if they bring Orlovsky back, because it will be one or the other along with Culpepper and whomever they draft.

I do know they prefer Sanchez to Stafford, at least certain important people there do. And they just hired another one today in Shack Harris (GREAT hire!). I have a feeling his opinion is going to carry a lot of weight on Stanton and the draft as a whole.

You seem to like Shack Harris. What are your thoughts or have heard about him league wide? He was the scape goat in Jax and was pretty much ran out of town by just about every one there.

Also, with Harris going to Detroit, does that then allow them to bring Byron Leftwich into the fold, allowing them to take a LT (or another position, or even trade down should someone ante up for the #1 spot) with their first pick?

Any reason why Crabtree won't run the 40 at the combine?

Rafael122 wrote:Any reason why Crabtree won't run the 40 at the combine?

I'd actually be surprised if he did run. Speed is not his best asset. I bet that if he believes he cannot break 4.5 he won't even try to run there. And most people I talk to don't think he can break it. What he has is "ball in the air" speed like Jerry Rice did. Rice wasn't a great 40 time but we all know he had no problem running down any ball or getting separation away from anyone. Crabtree is similar in that regard.