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WR Big Board

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:33 pm
by Icness
http://football.realgm.com/src_encroach ... receivers/

The brief version:
1. Crabtree
2. Nicks
3. Britt
4. Heyward-Bey
5. Maclin
6. Turner
7. Robiskie
8. Williams
9. Tate
10. Harvin

As it says in the piece, after Crabtree the evaluations are going to vary widely from team to team based on need and fit. Nicks might be #2 on on team's board and #9 on another, same with Williams. As it also says in the piece, this is based like 90% on ability at WR, not at KR/PR or out of the backfield. That value is factored more in their draft forecast.

As many as 60 WRs could conceivably get drafted this year, so not every guy made this list. If you have a specific question about someone not listed I'll try to answer it. I'm doing CBs next and that list is already up to 27 guys, so be patient please. The QB list has been up for a week and thanks to all the Willie Tuitama fans who keep emailing me wondering where he is :evil:

Re: WR Big Board

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:11 pm
by kiz5
His review of Britt is comical.

Indifferent blocker? Are you kidding me? Seriously? Watch some Ray Rice highlights at Rutgers. I'll give you a hint in advance ... he's not running to Underwood, or Brown's side. He's going behind Britt.

Chippy? Overconfident? ... Seriously? Is this a joke? The kid is humble. While most receivers come with "swag" whether they're the best on the team, or just a 4th or 5th WR, Britt is actually someone who doesn't seem to like to show their greatness. Aside from jumping TD celebrations with Underwood, after handing the ball off to the ref, he's far from being overconfident. He's just good.

As for the comparison to Owens ... for what? Being big and strong? Outside of that, I don't see one similarity in their game, and thats after watching Kenny play for the past 3 years.

But, it is what it is. A Big East WR, that most people have never seen, and barely heard about.

Re: WR Big Board

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:07 am
by LAKESHOW
the write up on patrick turner and USC wide receivers is good. and thats the bulk of it, our system is dominating in the collegiate game because we go with the big receivers. and in the college game, a passing game that stacks the 6-5 types at that position, have a clearcut advantage. penn state for example was overpowered, outsized and overmatched in their secondary. it however does not have matching qualities in the league, due to the sheer speed of dbs and even size of some safeties out there, which does not give them the comfortable advantage they enjoy in college. almost like having an excellent spread option QBs in the NCAA, only to have a guy like tebow signed up as a surefire tight end in the next level. our quality "short" receivers however, have excelled though. steve smith with the giants for example. his speed and cutting ability translates and was a key component in the giants title run last year.

with that said, i say that patrick turner, however low he goes, will surprise folks. he may turn out to be a very good receiver at the next level. its just that when we had a guy like mike williams, guys were literally bouncing off of him on his way to the endzone. that doesnt happen though in league.

Re: WR Big Board

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:11 pm
by Icness
Re: Britt--
Did y'all watch the UNC game or the Navy game? I saw a guy who went at about 75% effort on several plays. In the UNC game he got up from every reception and jawed at the DB--it went both ways to be fair. I saw a blocker who is pretty good if he can engage the action but a guy who won't go out and charge after a target if he doesn't get the initial lockup. The Navy game is a good example--he threw a very nice edge seal block on the Brooks TD run, but on a 3rd and short the CB played inside technique and Britt never even tried to slide down to block him.

As far as the overconfidence, you can thank the scouting staff of the Atlanta Falcons and Minnesota Vikings for the personality info. I've only met Britt once, in passing after the Louisville game in 2007. I rely fairly heavily on actual NFL scouts to help with the personality details that I don't personally know well.

I think people forget that TO was once considered a very good WR. Britt compares very much to him in terms of on-field play and that's not a bad thing. Take away the bizarre antics and TO would be considered one of the greats. I actually like Britt's game quite a bit, hence the high ranking. I thought he was the best player on the field in the Pitt and Louisville games. It's like he and Teel came together and decided to re-dedicate themselves to not wasting their final season in that Pitt game, and after that they were fantastic together.

Re: WR Big Board

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:06 pm
by lpsevier
kiz5 wrote:His review of Britt is comical.

Indifferent blocker? Are you kidding me? Seriously? Watch some Ray Rice highlights at Rutgers. I'll give you a hint in advance ... he's not running to Underwood, or Brown's side. He's going behind Britt.

Chippy? Overconfident? ... Seriously? Is this a joke? The kid is humble. While most receivers come with "swag" whether they're the best on the team, or just a 4th or 5th WR, Britt is actually someone who doesn't seem to like to show their greatness. Aside from jumping TD celebrations with Underwood, after handing the ball off to the ref, he's far from being overconfident. He's just good.

As for the comparison to Owens ... for what? Being big and strong? Outside of that, I don't see one similarity in their game, and thats after watching Kenny play for the past 3 years.

But, it is what it is. A Big East WR, that most people have never seen, and barely heard about.


I think that is a little harsh considering Icness has him ranked #2 and many people won't have him top 8.

Re: WR Big Board

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:48 pm
by kiz5
Its one thing to have him ranked top 3, which is fine.

However, the negatives he put on him really aren't there though. Thats my issue.

Re: WR Big Board

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:54 pm
by lpsevier
I would rely more on the Falcons and Vikings scouting department that I would a guy who attended Rutgers and watched him play from the stands.

Re: WR Big Board

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:06 pm
by Icness
kiz5 wrote:Its one thing to have him ranked top 3, which is fine.

However, the negatives he put on him really aren't there though. Thats my issue.


From ESPN's evaluation:

2008: Rutgers suspends Britt for Morgan State game for an undisclosed violation of team policy. Scouts have serious concerns regarding his maturity, work ethic and practice habits. Scouts who have interviewed him have described him to us as 'arrogant' and having 'an inflated opinion of his skills'.


From CDSDraft:
Weaknesses
Can drop some easy balls. Not a worker. Has more than a little prima donna in him. Inconsistent. Doesn't return kicks or punts
.

From Footballsfuture.com:
Weaknesses

Britt lacks elite deep speed, but he’s a big receiver so that is not much of a concern. He has enough to get open and make plays, so he’s fine. The real issue with Britt could come down to his attitude and how hard he will work on his game in the NFL. He carries the primadonna label and you can see on the field that he takes plays off and does not always play as hard as he should


In short, get off my a$$ already and tell the scores of Rutgers folks emailing me to do the same! :evil:

Re: WR Big Board

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:54 am
by SpeedyG
Kenny Britt = Reggie Williams (formerly of Washington Huskies and Jacksonville Jaguars)?