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Top 103 Nov. 10th edition 

Post#1 » by Icness » Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:40 pm

Top 103:
http://football.realgm.com/src_twelfthwriter/48/20091112/top_103_nfl_draft_prospects_of_2010_version_10/

the top 10:
1. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska. His quickness and versatility stand out.

2. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee. Great instinctive playmaker, only question is his size.

3. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma. Dynamic interior force losing a little momentum.

4. Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State. His suspension doesn’t necessarily hurt him.

5. Jake Locker, QB, Washington. Scouts love the adversity he’s overcome.

6. Rolando McClain, LB, Alabama. The next great rookie ILB, shades of Patrick Willis.

7. Russell Okung, T, Oklahoma State. Showing more consistency and ferocity.

8. Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech. Steadily rising by making loads of big plays.

9. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson. The next Chris Johnson? He’s that fast.

10. Colt McCoy, QB, Texas. Not always pretty, but always pretty effective.


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Post#2 » by asdf1223 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:59 pm

Curious why you have ranked Damian Williams so low? Other reports have him as there #2 guy calling him a holt type guy with great speed and route running. Do you scouting guys see something lacking in him?
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Post#3 » by Icness » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:32 pm

asdf1223 wrote:Curious why you have ranked Damian Williams so low? Other reports have him as there #2 guy calling him a holt type guy with great speed and route running. Do you scouting guys see something lacking in him?


1. Durability, which when paired with his slender frame is a big flag
2. He can't block a lick
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Post#4 » by CJ_18 » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:16 am

I know Eric Berry hasn't got as many interceptions as he had the last couple of years, but obviously hes still making big plays in pass D. As well they have him playing like a rover, moving all over the secondary and sometimes in the box to make plays in the run. And despite the drop in numbers this year, you still have him ranked #2 as a prospect- just wondering what you've seen of him this year to keep him so high even though he only has 2 INTs this year?
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Post#5 » by Icness » Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:58 am

CJ_18 wrote:I know Eric Berry hasn't got as many interceptions as he had the last couple of years, but obviously hes still making big plays in pass D. As well they have him playing like a rover, moving all over the secondary and sometimes in the box to make plays in the run. And despite the drop in numbers this year, you still have him ranked #2 as a prospect- just wondering what you've seen of him this year to keep him so high even though he only has 2 INTs this year?


He's got such incredible natural instincts to go with his fluid athleticism. The fact he can play in the box effectively despite being 200 pounds soaking wet says a lot. He's the closest thing I've seen to Ed Reed since Ed Reed, and I think Reed is the best defensive back of the 2000s. He can cover like a corner but he hits like Ronnie Lott with a great nose for the ball. I think the way Kiffin has moved him all over the place this year (he's even played nickel WLB) enhances his value because he's already learned how to do so much. He's miles ahead of Taylor Mays IMO, though I am warming to Mays a little.
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Post#6 » by PhilipNelsonFan » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:23 am

What's Corey Wootton's draft status looking like right now? He seems to be the ideal 3-4 DE that a lot of teams find themselves coveting these days.

Maurkice Pouncey of Florida is listed also, but not Mike. How different/similar are they of prospects, besides the fact that one plays center and the other plays guard? Come to think of it, how do NFL scouts even feel about twins?

I'd also enjoy a couple brief notes on Gerhart, Oghobaase, Bruce Campbell, Brian Price, and...

103. Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana PA


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Post#7 » by studcrackers » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:52 am

i can guarantee they're not uglier than the mcquistan brothers, aka baby eaters

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Post#8 » by PhilipNelsonFan » Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:11 pm

What'cha talking about, studdy? That's an amazing skullet.

(Also, it's amazing the McQuistan brothers have lasted as long as they have, coming from small-college ball.)
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Post#9 » by Icness » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:05 pm

PhilipNelsonFan wrote:What's Corey Wootton's draft status looking like right now? He seems to be the ideal 3-4 DE that a lot of teams find themselves coveting these days.

Maurkice Pouncey of Florida is listed also, but not Mike. How different/similar are they of prospects, besides the fact that one plays center and the other plays guard? Come to think of it, how do NFL scouts even feel about twins?

I'd also enjoy a couple brief notes on Gerhart, Oghobaase, Bruce Campbell, Brian Price, and...

103. Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana PA


...this guy.


Wootton had himself a fantastic game against Iowa, beyond breaking Stanzi's ankle. Iowa has a pair of future NFL tackles and Wootton just dominated them. His knee is finally getting back to shape and his stock is rising accordingly. I think he's in the 20-40 overall range right now. His medical issues could bite him though.

Maurkice is a great center, Mike is a decent guard. Center is valued higher and it's hard to find his sort of athleticism there. Mike is a little slower and he's not viewed as being as feisty, though honestly I have a hard time telling the difference. There is some concern--not great, but it's there--about separating the twins onto different teams, like they won't be as effective without one another.

Gerhart = Mike Alstott 2.0, a tailback in a fullback's body. Or a slightly quicker Brian Leonard. That's a tough fit for a lot of offenses and I think he'll not go above the middle of the 3rd round.

I'll get to the others later. the dude from IUP reminds a lot of people of DRC. I've only seen highlight tapes and he's a man amongst boys at D-III.
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Post#10 » by NO-KG-AI » Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:18 pm

<3 Berry, I think he's the best player in the draft, and will be the best DB of his generation. He's on a defense that has a lot of holes, and teams are going to actively avoid him.

Mays has shown a little more this year, but before, it was "he stops all the deep throws, and doesn't make the big plays on the ball, or at/behind the line of scrimmage because of the stud front 7." Now the Trojans are giving up big plays and teams are scoring on them because of the weakened front 7, but Mays is still piling up all of his tackles 20 yards downfield, and isn't making big plays on the ball.

And for as hard as Taylor hits, which at his hardest is harder than Berry, he doesn't deliver the hammer nearly as much as Eric does.



You're really high on Dez Bryant I see, is it because this draft class seems a bit thin on top end offensive talent? None of the offensive players scream top notch prospect for any draft.

I think if a lot of the sophomores were eligible (Julio, AJ Green, Floyd), Bryant would be very low on my board.

Monster defensive talent in this draft though, and Suh and Berry seem like absolutely dominant defenders, and Gerald McCoy could have been THE top pick last draft even.

Glad for the Saints, because some stud defender is bound to drop and give us great value.
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Re: Top 103 Nov. 10th edition 

Post#11 » by studcrackers » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:19 am

why so low on dez sal? he's got the complete package, you ask me about him i'll tell you what you need to know. he was a gigantic reason zack robinson looked so good
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Post#12 » by GS Warriors 1 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:58 am

Thanks for the list.

I'll be sure to watch these guys on ESPN360 replays.
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Post#13 » by NO-KG-AI » Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:24 am

Not so low, but 4th best player in the draft seems really high to me, and best offensive player highlights how poor this draft is on that side of the ball.
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