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Re: Week 7 Game Threads 

Post#41 » by LAKESHOW » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:24 am

ElTurco wrote:repost for our teletubby audience;

there is no parity in a conference when one team wins it six straight times. i wish tinky-winky was here to explain it better for you.


i see your point turco, but cmon, did we not prove our strength a few weeks ago?
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Re: Week 7 Game Threads 

Post#42 » by El Turco » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:49 am

you proved the strength of your team, not the crappy conference you play in. its an one-horse conference.
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Post#43 » by GSWbandwagon » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:24 am

ElTurco wrote:you proved the strength of your team, not the crappy conference you play in. its an one-horse conference.


this is a down year for the pac10, with a horrible ooc record including something like 1-6 against the mwc. thank goodness for the big-cant-count-to-11 conference. the bcct11 conference is 1-3 against the pac10. surely this is just a case of the crappy teams playing the top of the weak pac10 right? there is currently a 3 way tie for 1st place atop the bcct11. those 3 teams are a combined 1-2 against the pac10 this year and 9-0 against their own putrid conference.

even in a down year, the pac10 still dominates the elite of the bcct11. quite sad.
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Post#44 » by LAKESHOW » Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:31 pm

just to add more information about the top conference in the nation, we have round robin play in our conference. each and every year we prove ourselves by playing each and every team within our conference. there is no conference that can boast that type of competition . . . HELL YEAH, PAC-10 MEANS EXCITEMENT!!
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Re: Week 7 Game Threads 

Post#45 » by El Turco » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:33 pm

GSWbandwagon wrote:those 3 teams are a combined 1-2 against the pac10 this year and 9-0 against their own putrid conference.

even in a down year, the pac10 still dominates the elite of the bcct11. quite sad.



and one of the 2 loses was against USC which we already established that is an outlier team in pac-1. quite a sample size you work with there to define dominance.must be a pac-1 thing.

besides, i dont think anybody claimed big 10 is an elite conference right now, not when two of its traditional powers having historically bad seasons. difference is most big 10 fans dont get into to delusional we-are-always-bestest mental state and make fallacious claims(re:parity) when they find themselves on the wrong side of the conference power cycle.

cute word play though.
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Post#46 » by El Turco » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:34 pm

LAKESHOW wrote: each and every year we prove ourselves by playing each and every team within our conference.


so does mwc teams :lol:
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Post#47 » by GSWbandwagon » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:40 am

ElTurco wrote:and one of the 2 loses was against USC which we already established that is an outlier team in pac-1. quite a sample size you work with there to define dominance.must be a pac-1 thing.

besides, i dont think anybody claimed big 10 is an elite conference right now, not when two of its traditional powers having historically bad seasons. difference is most big 10 fans dont get into to delusional we-are-always-bestest mental state and make fallacious claims(re:parity) when they find themselves on the wrong side of the conference power cycle.

cute word play though.


how many pac10 fans are claiming that the pac10 is the best conference in college football this year? you quoted part of my post but left out the parts where i said that the pac10 is down this year and performed very poorly out of conference. the conference isn't having a great year and just about any sane pac10 fan will tell you that, but its not as weak as some seem to think.

as for the b10, who are the two traditional powers having historically bad seasons? michigan and...? it looks like the two michigan schools flipped fortunes for this year, penn state is having an up year, minnesota and northwestern look like they're probably having up years, and wisconsin is in a down year.
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Post#48 » by El Turco » Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:33 am

i was referring to michigan and wisconsin. granted wisconsin could very well turn it around but IIRC this is the first time in 40-some years they started the conference play 0-3. big 10 isnt having a bad season-i would say its the 3rd best conference- but i wouldnt call it elite either. imo, this season there is a pretty big gap between top 2 conferences and the rest.
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Post#49 » by GSWbandwagon » Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:53 am

i don't consider wisconsin a traditional power. they went 30 years (sometime in the 60s thru sometime in the 90s) without so much as a conference title. they don't have a single national title. through their entire history wisconsin only has 9 conference titles (including shared titles) and 0 national titles. cal has 14 conference championships and three national championships. cal has a higher all-time winning percentage. few would call cal a traditional power, and i say that as a cal alum.

wisconsin is 3-3 with two of the losses being to penn state and ohio state. certainly wisconsin is a disappointment and is underachieving (should've beaten michigan, esp considering how they were taking care of business for a while) but its too early to call it a historically bad season. its not even a terrible year by the standards of this decade. 2001 - 2003 (3 seasons) wisconsin went a combined 20-19. they had an 8 year stretch from the mid 80s through the early 90s where they were under .500 each year and had 1-3 wins in 5 of those seasons. surely in some of those 1 - 3 win seasons they started conference play 0-3.

it's a semantic argument, but this is a msg board so i feel free to waste some time with it :D

i'd also disagree that the b10 is the #3 conference but agree that its not elite and neither is the pac10, and its really a waste of time to argue over who is #3.
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Re: Week 7 Game Threads 

Post#50 » by studcrackers » Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:00 am

would anyone argue against the MWC being the #3 conference? at least them being in the argument considering how top heavy it is right now
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