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Post#1 » by LAKESHOW » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:02 pm

Two sources who recruit for Mississippi State said that Cecil Newton and his son, quarterback Cam Newton, said in separate phone conversations to a pay-for-play plan while Newton was being recruited late last year.

Mississippi State compliance officials relayed the alleged conversations to Southeastern Conference compliance officials in January, according to two other sources close to the football program.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5786315

THIS TRAVESTY NEEDS TO BE PUNISHED IMMEDIATELY! THE NCAA NEEDS TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN NOW! if they dont, then the head hunting they applied to a great program on the west coast was and is and as everyone knows . . . BULL****!
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Post#2 » by craig01 » Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:52 am

Auburn is no stranger to NCAA probation.

Neither is Alabama, Miss St, Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida, and Arkansas.

It wasn't the fact that USC was singled out....but rather that they joined the club.

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Seriously, there seems to be too much smoke for Newton to go unscathed. As for Auburn, it will depend on if, where, and how the money trail leads. If Newton is declared ineligible, Auburn will be forced to vacate those wins in which he played. If Auburn is involved ....even indirectly....they'll face serious consequences.

Newton, while having an incredible year, is proving to be careless, reckless, and just plain dumb as these accusations sort themselves out.
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Post#3 » by Jaruff » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:40 am

While I usually don't care about these things (if you have a talent and aren't interested in the free education, you might want to be paid and I can understand that), they are playing my Gamecocks again in a few weeks. I'd love to see him suspended and Auburn forced to forfeit their win earlier in the season just for that reason.
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Post#4 » by Icness » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:03 am

I think the Auburn program itself (coaches, AD, etc.) are almost certainly telling the truth when they say they have no idea and nothing to do with any of this. That doesn't mean Cam Newton didn't get paid by someone representing Auburn, but the school itself can claim plausible deniability and that will likely keep them from major sanctions. USC football's problem was that so many other of their other programs (OJ Mayo, women's track, both volleyball teams) were caught breaking rules in this manner that they lost that plausible deniability and showed lack of institutional control. Honestly they are lucky to still be fielding a team--it could have been a lot worse. It would have been a lot worse if Pete Carroll hadn't left.

I get what Auburn is doing by playing him now. Win the title on the field and beg for mercy later, smart philosophy, puts the villian hat on the NCAA and not themselves.

I think this is going to come down to a choice for Cam Newton: does he let his dad take the fall after all he's done for him, or does Cam step up and be a man and admit his role? I only know his dad a little but I'm convinced he'll take it all on himself if it comes to that. Real tough choice for Cam Newton, because that money he (allegedly) took absolutely comes with some strings.
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Post#5 » by craig01 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:23 am

Newton's dad will try to take the fall, but Newton's innocence in this will be hard to maintain.

Given Auburn's history with overzealous boosters, it becomes even harder to believe that Newton wasn't a willing partner.

I do believe that Auburn would not have been involved with this.

Just as OJ Mayo never intended to anything more than a one-and-done at USC, I think Newton's intentions may have been parallel.
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Post#6 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Dec 2, 2010 2:30 am

NOW DO YOU BELIEVE!

There is and a NCAA conspiracy against the TROJAN WARHORSE!

Today they mentioned that "ONLY THE DAD KNEW ABOUT MONEY TRANSACTIONS, NOT THE SON"!

REALLY??

that is a bunch of bull****

and get this, THE NCAA BOUGHT IT!

that is totally wrong in how they can act one way towards one team in the southeastern conference, and totally come down and lay the hammer against the only prestigious institution on the west coast.
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Post#7 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Dec 2, 2010 10:14 pm

Huh? Did the NCAA do what I think it did? Did it basically rule that a father and a third party can actively, brazenly and with impunity shop a player around for hundreds of thousands of dollars -- and the worst thing that happens is the father has to lie low and the third party has to disassociate himself from the programs in question?

Did it just get embarrassed by a rules loophole the size of Jordan-Hare Stadium, the gist of it being: Your old man and another guy can put you on the open market, but as long as you don't know about it, you're good to strap it up for the next big game?

The answers: yes and yes.

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Post#8 » by craig01 » Fri Dec 3, 2010 12:11 am

LAKESHOW wrote:Huh? Did the NCAA do what I think it did? Did it basically rule that a father and a third party can actively, brazenly and with impunity shop a player around for hundreds of thousands of dollars -- and the worst thing that happens is the father has to lie low and the third party has to disassociate himself from the programs in question?

Did it just get embarrassed by a rules loophole the size of Jordan-Hare Stadium, the gist of it being: Your old man and another guy can put you on the open market, but as long as you don't know about it, you're good to strap it up for the next big game?

The answers: yes and yes.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/ ... ortCat=ncf



The important thing that came out of this (which so many refuse to read into) is the line in the NCAA statement that says "we don't have enough evidence AT THIS TIME" to declare Newton ineligible.

This won't go away, and given the NCAA's track record in dragging their feet, a resolution won't happen in a month.

There is little doubt that Auburn will vacate wins sometime down the road.
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