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Well, its that time of week everyone, its time for the new AP and USA Today Polls! Yay!

Looks like the 'nation' is already knob gobbling the Trojans.

AP

1. USC (21) 1-0 1,539
2. Georgia (20) 1-0 1,506
3. Ohio State (15) 1-0 1,497
4. Oklahoma (2) 1-0 1,432
5. Florida (5) 1-0 1,415
6. Missouri (1) 1-0 1,301
7. LSU (1) 1-0 1,207
8. West Virginia 1-0 1,108
9. Auburn 1-0 1,033
10. Texas 1-0 1,028
11. Wisconsin 1-0 849
12. Texas Tech 1-0 842
13. Alabama 1-0 834
14. Kansas 1-0 748
15. Arizona State 1-0 672
15. Brigham Young 1-0 672
17. South Florida 1-0 588
18. Oregon 1-0 508
19. Penn State 1-0 467
20. Wake Forest 1-0 414
21. Fresno State 1-0 242
22. Utah 1-0 214
23. UCLA 1-0 151
24. Illinois 0-1 147
24. South Carolina 1-0 147

New Entries: Fresno State (after beating up Rutgers), Utah (after beating Michigan), UCLA (after that nail-biter vs. Tenn) and South Carolina (after embarrassing NC St.).

Early exits: Pitt (after the loss to Bowling Green), Clemson (after losing to Stud's Tide), Tennessee (see: UCLA) and Virginia Tech (after the thriller vs. ECU).

USA Today

1. USC (23) 1-0 1,462
2. Georgia (20) 1-0 1,442
3. Ohio State (10) 1-0 1,385
4. Oklahoma (2) 1-0 1,344
5. Florida (3) 1-0 1,295
6. LSU (3) 1-0 1,202
7. Missouri 1-0 1,197
8. West Virginia 1-0 1,035
9. Texas 1-0 1,030
10. Auburn 1-0 962
11. Wisconsin 1-0 853
12. Kansas 1-0 820
13. Texas Tech 1-0 732
14. Arizona State 1-0 679
15. Brigham Young 1-0 629
16. Oregon 1-0 566
17. Alabama 1-0 538
18. South Florida 1-0 480
19. Penn State 1-0 450
20. Wake Forest 1-0 388
21. Fresno State 1-0 269
22. Clemson 0-1 186
23. Utah 1-0 158
24. South Carolina 1-0 134
25. Illinois 0-1 92

New Entries: Utah, Bama and SC.

Early Exits: Va. Tech, Tenn and Michigan

Thoughts? Comments? Concerns?

i know it was a nice win for UCLA but im not completely sure if they should be in the top 25 yet, surprised that clemson fell completely out of the top 25 in the AP poll too

As long as Georgia stays in the top 2 I'm happy, but these polls are so dumb. I don't remember USC losing their spot last year when everyone knew they weren't the #1 team in the country.

Yes, we move up to number 10.

Go UCLA!!!!

Nice to see Utah get ranked, they deserve it.

I wonder where ECU will fit when they beat West Virginia this weekend. I said awhile ago that is the 3rd best non-BCS team in the country after BYU and Utah. Bowling Green is probably going to win against Minnesota so they'll have 2 wins against BCS schools, which should get them in the Top 25 for a week or two.

No arguments with who is in the top 13, though I'd probably ordinate them a little differently.

High 5 wrote:As long as Georgia stays in the top 2 I'm happy, but these polls are so dumb. I don't remember USC losing their spot last year when everyone knew they weren't the #1 team in the country.

We need to just change the names to the Pete Carrol poll, and USC today poll.

I guess the pollsters were just rewarding USC for being one of only 5 teams to have never scheduled a I AA team (FCS) to just completely skip actually playing a game.

When will the SEC learn to stop with the practice of playing saturday scrimages with a nobody team twice a year at least for each team.

Georgia hurt itself by actually letting last years godly 7-4 Georgia Southern team who couldnt even make the FCS playoffs score 21 points at Georgia's own home....Thats embarassing, I dont care what string was playing

No doubt USC's trip to a 9-4 bowl teams home and dominating performance pushed them over the top this time around

Gonna be a long and exciting season.....so I am sure there will be changes aplenty

Interesting Fact (maybe): Since Pete Carroll has taken over USC they have only lost one game by more than 6 points (11 to Notre Dame)

no worries, USC wont stay at its position for very long. neither will Georgia, for that matter.

Viriginia is complete garbage this year. I'd put money on GSU to beat them. Nothing embarrassing about playing ~20 freshmen in a 38-0 game and giving up some points. When USC ever plays a schedule as tough as Georgia's this year then get back to me. We can't all be as fortunate to play in the Pac-1. Like I said, I don't care, I just laugh at the inconsistency. Watch OSU jump to #2 this week just so they can hype up this matchup even more.

High 5 wrote:When USC ever plays a schedule as tough as Georgia's this year then get back to me. We can't all be as fortunate to play in the Pac-1. Like I said, I don't care, I just laugh at the inconsistency. Watch OSU jump to #2 this week just so they can hype up this matchup even more.

You're funny. Virginia is miles beyond Georgia Southern in football, and USC plays Ohio State. The only team Georgia matches up with that's even close is Florida. LSU is worse than last year, Tennessee blows, Alabama is overrated...I'm not asking you to face the fact that the SEC is weak, possibly weaker than the Pac-10 this year, but you're way off base with this argument.

And WEC, didn't Oregon beat USC by a touchdown last year?

studcrackers wrote:i know it was a nice win for UCLA but im not completely sure if they should be in the top 25 yet, surprised that clemson fell completely out of the top 25 in the AP poll too

Agreed. Also, South Carolina should be banned from the top 25. They are nowhere close to that good. NC State plays like a D-II team.

Virginia is probably the worst team in the ACC that isn't Duke, and we all saw the level of the ACC last weekend. Other than Big Eugene up front they have NOTHING. The Richmond Spiders are very confident headed there this weekend with good reason. Like I said in the game thread, there's not a more unhostile, antiseptic place to play a football game than UVA. They banned signs for chrissakes!

If you are a top 12 team and want any shot at the national title with a loss, the next two weeks are the best weeks to lose. I said it before, I'll say it again: The OSU/USC loser on the 13th has a better shot than the winner to make the BCS title game.

WECpoker wrote:I guess the pollsters were just rewarding USC for being one of only 5 teams to have never scheduled a I AA team (FCS) to just completely skip actually playing a game.

When will the SEC learn to stop with the practice of playing saturday scrimages with a nobody team twice a year at least for each team.

Georgia hurt itself by actually letting last years godly 7-4 Georgia Southern team who couldnt even make the FCS playoffs score 21 points at Georgia's own home....Thats embarassing, I dont care what string was playing

No doubt USC's trip to a 9-4 bowl teams home and dominating performance pushed them over the top this time around

Gonna be a long and exciting season.....so I am sure there will be changes aplenty

Interesting Fact (maybe): Since Pete Carroll has taken over USC they have only lost one game by more than 6 points (11 to Notre Dame)

When USC comes and plays in a man conference.

PhilipNelsonFan wrote:

High 5 wrote:When USC ever plays a schedule as tough as Georgia's this year then get back to me. We can't all be as fortunate to play in the Pac-1. Like I said, I don't care, I just laugh at the inconsistency. Watch OSU jump to #2 this week just so they can hype up this matchup even more.

You're funny. Virginia is miles beyond Georgia Southern in football, and USC plays Ohio State. The only team Georgia matches up with that's even close is Florida. LSU is worse than last year, Tennessee blows, Alabama is overrated...I'm not asking you to face the fact that the SEC is weak, possibly weaker than the Pac-10 this year, but you're way off base with this argument.

And WEC, didn't Oregon beat USC by a touchdown last year?

Playing 1 great team over a season is not a tough schedule. Playing several good/great teams is extremely tough. Realize how much one tough game takes out of a team and then imagine doing that back-to-back-to-back-to-back. Look at these stretches: @ Arizona State, @ South Carolina, Alabama. Then later in the season: @ LSU, @ neutral site w/ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn. All of that with the pressure of being #1 or #2. Are you kidding me?

Whatever, let's just see this season play out. SEC will dominate like usual and the Pac-1 fans will still swear that they're some awesome conference. At least Ohio State fans will admit that they're the only team in their conference.

Icness wrote:Virginia is probably the worst team in the ACC that isn't Duke, and we all saw the level of the ACC last weekend. Other than Big Eugene up front they have NOTHING. The Richmond Spiders are very confident headed there this weekend with good reason. Like I said in the game thread, there's not a more unhostile, antiseptic place to play a football game than UVA. They banned signs for chrissakes!

Well said.

High 5 wrote:

PhilipNelsonFan wrote:

High 5 wrote:When USC ever plays a schedule as tough as Georgia's this year then get back to me. We can't all be as fortunate to play in the Pac-1. Like I said, I don't care, I just laugh at the inconsistency. Watch OSU jump to #2 this week just so they can hype up this matchup even more.

You're funny. Virginia is miles beyond Georgia Southern in football, and USC plays Ohio State. The only team Georgia matches up with that's even close is Florida. LSU is worse than last year, Tennessee blows, Alabama is overrated...I'm not asking you to face the fact that the SEC is weak, possibly weaker than the Pac-10 this year, but you're way off base with this argument.

And WEC, didn't Oregon beat USC by a touchdown last year?

Playing 1 great team over a season is not a tough schedule. Playing several good/great teams is extremely tough. Realize how much one tough game takes out of a team and then imagine doing that back-to-back-to-back-to-back. Look at these stretches: @ Arizona State, @ South Carolina, Alabama. Then later in the season: @ LSU, @ neutral site w/ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn. All of that with the pressure of being #1 or #2. Are you kidding me?

Whatever, let's just see this season play out. SEC will dominate like usual and the Pac-1 fans will still swear that they're some awesome conference. At least Ohio State fans will admit that they're the only team in their conference.

Ballsy response, but you have no idea what you're talking about. Let me break it down for you:

@ Arizona State

USC gets the Sun Devils at home, but as penance they have to go play at Oregon State and at Arizona, two tough home environments even if the teams themselves aren't that great. Kind of a wash of a point.

EDIT: After further review, my point sucks, but the overarching theme is that this is a common opponent and both teams will be judged upon this. Slight edge here to you, which you lose almost immediately.

@ South Carolina

South Carolina sucks. Washington, a team that may finish ninth in the Pac-10, could beat the wrong SC in a walkabout.

Alabama

At home = less impressive, and this game is comparable to USC playing Cal in Berkeley (which they do), and I think Cal is on par with Alabama and possibly a little better. True the Bears did lose all their WRs, but they'll run the ball down the Tide's throats, something Clemson evidently forgot to do.

@ LSU

Yawn. LSU is a tough place to play but I'm not so sure about this LSU squad after a week. Arizona State likely beats them in a head-to-head, and maybe even UCLA.

@ neutral site w/ Florida

I'm a Gator supporter, but if you're trying to compare this to USC-Ohio State in the Colisseum you are crazy. A healthy Florida is as good as a healthy Ohio State this year, but Florida is bereft of Percy Harvin, who is more critical to the Gators' success than Beanie is to Ohio State. (Yes, I'm willing to stick my neck out that far.)

@ Kentucky

Again, every Pac-10 team can win this game, even Washington State. Kentucky, so far, has shut down an offensively challenged (to put it nicely) Louisville team while scoring all of 20 points against a brutally bad defense. Kentucky doesn't even have a noticeable home-field advantage. Yawn. Sigh. Next.

@ Auburn

Tough game, but I'm not overly impressed. Oregon's schedule (@Purdue, @USC, @Cal, @Arizona State, @Oregon State) more than makes up for the road games Georgia plays. That game is comparable to Oregon playing @Cal, which could be the weakest game on that list.

All of that with the pressure of being #1 or #2. Are you kidding me?

So does USC. The major difference is that USC's players won't be subjected to racial epithets, death threats and outright slander on talk radio. (Insert joke about bandwagon SoCal fans here.)

Whatever, let's just see this season play out. SEC will dominate like usual and the Pac-1 fans will still swear that they're some awesome conference.

I love the Pac-10 because it is the nation's ONLY BCS conference where a) everybody plays everybody else and b) any given Saturday some Pac-10 team can overcome odds to beat its opponent. You cannot goose-step to the national championship in the Pac-10 the way you can in the SEC, the Big Ecks-Eye-Eye and the Big Eleven.

In the words of Ted Miller of ESPN.com:

The Pac-10 is now 10-6 versus the SEC and is 6-2 in games played on the West Coast since the BCS Era began in 1998.

Scoreboard.

Not only are you completely missing the point, but all you did was respond with "this team sucks, any Pac-1 team could beat them, USC plays OSU, ducks and geese." Oregon had their chance last year and unfortunately they missed out. Oregon is no longer relevant.

I'm not even going to waste my time. Just accept SEC supremacy like most of the country and enjoy the fight for 2nd. Even though the Big 12 should have that wrapped up nicely.

if espn says it, it must be true. sec pwns all. kentucky >>>> new england patriots. blah blah blah.

meanwhile, mighty tennessee just lost to ucla's 3rd string.

lol at touting georgia's tough scheduling. @asu might be the first time in the history of georgia football that they've had to use a plane to get to an ooc game.

pnf, cal goes to south central this year.

Actually, if we believed ESPN, the Pac-10 has never lost a game, and USC has won every title this century.

And LOL at Tennessee being mighty.