The Polls: Week 11

[Da Schwab]

Uh huh...

AP

1. Alabama (44) 10-0 1,604
2. Texas Tech (21) 10-0 1,574
3. Florida 8-1 1,467
4. Texas 9-1 1,437
5. Oklahoma 9-1 1,375
6. USC 8-1 1,311
7. Penn State 9-1 1,161
8. Utah 10-0 1,157
9. Boise State 9-0 1,110
10. Ohio State 8-2 1,009
11. Oklahoma State 8-2 963
12. Missouri 8-2 913
13. Georgia 8-2 880
14. Ball State 9-0 677
15. TCU 9-2 623
16. Brigham Young 9-1 602
17. North Carolina 7-2 597
18. Michigan State 9-2 584
19. LSU 6-3 552
20. Florida State 7-2 380
21. Pittsburgh 7-2 318
22. Cincinnati 7-2 269
23. Oregon State 6-3 124
24. South Carolina 7-3 117
25. Tulsa 8-1 84

Others Receiving Votes
California 73, Virginia Tech 44, AIR FORCE 40, Georgia Tech 29, Arizona 7, Oregon 6, WESTERN MICHIGAN 6, West Virginia 5, CENTRAL MICHIGAN 5, Iowa 5, Miami (FL) 5, Northwestern 3, Boston College 3, Maryland 3, South Florida 1, Wake Forest 1, Kansas 1.

Dropped From Rankings
West Virginia 20, California 21, Georgia Tech 22, Maryland 23.

USA Today

1. Alabama (44) 10-0 1,508
2. Texas Tech (17) 10-0 1,469
3. Florida 8-1 1,348
4. Oklahoma 9-1 1,314
5. Texas 9-1 1,300
6. USC 8-1 1,268
7. Utah 10-0 1,104
8. Penn State 9-1 1,074
9. Boise State 9-0 1,028
10. Ohio State 8-2 936
11. Missouri 8-2 883
12. Georgia 8-2 842
13. Oklahoma State 8-2 808
14. Brigham Young 9-1 679
15. Michigan State 9-2 660
16. Ball State 9-0 590
17. North Carolina 7-2 543
18. TCU 9-2 475
19. Florida State 7-2 426
20. LSU 6-3 409
21. Pittsburgh 7-2 311
22. Cincinnati 7-2 183
23. South Carolina 7-3 155
24. Tulsa 8-1 144
25. Oregon State 6-3 71

Others Receiving Votes
California 50, Oregon 49, Georgia Tech 38, Virginia Tech 34, Air Force 25, Wake Forest 13, Northwestern 13, Arizona 11, Kansas 11, Maryland 9, Connecticut 8, Minnesota 8, Boston College 7, Iowa 6, Miami (FL) 5, West Virginia 5, WESTERN MICHIGAN 5.

Dropped From Rankings
Georgia Tech 20, Maryland 21, California 22, West Virginia 23, Northwestern 25.

Can someone please explain to me why Penn State is still in the Top 10?

[travis minor]

Can someone please explain to me why Penn State is still in the Top 10?

because they are better than utah and boise, and they beat ohio state


any other questions

[hermes]

Iowa's a better team than you think


go texas tech

[J-Mezzy]

Penn is a 1 loss team, the deserve to be on the top 10 ahead of 2 loss teams.

BCS Rankings:

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BCS Standings
Rk Team W-L Harris Coaches CPU % BCS
Rk Points % Rk Points % Prev Avg
1 Alabama 10-0 1 2808 .9853 1 1508 .9889 .9700 1 .981
2 Texas Tech 10-0 2 2768 .9712 2 1469 .9633 .9800 2 .972
3 Texas 9-1 4 2471 .8670 5 1300 .8525 .9200 4 .880
4 Florida 8-1 3 2531 .8881 3 1348 .8839 .8200 5 .864
5 Oklahoma 9-1 5 2427 .8516 4 1314 .8616 .8200 6 .844
6 USC 8-1 6 2329 .8172 6 1268 .8315 .7200 7 .790
7 Utah 10-0 8 2034 .7137 7 1104 .7239 .8700 8 .769
8 Penn State 9-1 7 2073 .7274 8 1074 .7043 .6200 3 .684
9 Boise State 9-0 9 1940 .6807 9 1028 .6741 .6800 10 .678
10 Georgia 8-2 12 1581 .5547 12 842 .5521 .7400 13 .616
11 Ohio State 8-2 10 1765 .6193 10 936 .6138 .5400 11 .591
12 Missouri 8-2 11 1585 .5561 11 883 .5790 .5400 14 .558
13 Oklahoma State 8-2 13 1488 .5221 13 808 .5298 .5500 9 .534
14 Ball State 9-0 15 1231 .4319 16 590 .3869 .4300 17 .416
15 Michigan State 9-2 16 1122 .3937 15 660 .4328 .3400 18 .389
16 North Carolina 7-2 17 995 .3491 17 543 .3561 .4400 19 .382
17 Brigham Young 9-1 14 1335 .4684 14 679 .4452 .2100 15 .375
18 TCU 9-2 18 975 .3421 18 475 .3115 .4000 12 .351
19 Florida State 7-2 20 708 .2484 19 426 .2793 .2500 22 .259
20 LSU 6-3 19 806 .2828 20 409 .2682 .1700 16 .240
21 Pittsburgh 7-2 21 558 .1958 21 311 .2039 .1400 0 .180
22 Cincinnati 7-2 23 331 .1161 22 183 .1200 .2100 0 .149
23 Tulsa 8-1 22 342 .1200 24 144 .0944 .0000 0 .071
24 Wake Forest 6-3 36 14 .0049 31 13 .0085 .1700 0 .061
25 South Carolina 7-3 24 147 .0516 23 155 .1016 .0200 0 .058


I'll start by saying I don't have a problem with this, but I am curious of how Fl was ahead of Texas in AP, Harris, and Coaches poll, yet managed to be behind Texas in BCS. I don't get it....

[El Turco]

even though i dont think they would beat PSU in a head to head, i would put Utah ahead of them right now. utah got lucky against solid TCU team but win is a win. both deserve to be in top 10 though.

pollsters got it wrong, texas should be over florida. texas' loss is to #2 team in the nation while florida loss is to miss st. and their best wins are comparable. doesnt matter for florida though, they run the table, they are in.

ball st deserves to be in top 10 as much as boise st. i wouldnt put either of them in top 15, but no reason to separate the two.

unless something freakish happens, it looks like SEC and Big12 champs will play for national championship. SEC is pretty straightforward but it is likely there will be a 3 way tie in big 12 south and i doubt anybody knows how to break it.

[J-Mezzy]

I don't know how they will break the 3 way tie either without screwing someone else.

Assume, Okla beats T Tech. Then how do you do it? They all have the same conference record. Okla should be ahead of Tech since they beat them right? But not ahead of Texas since they lost to texas. So
Texas
Okla
Tech

Not so fast, Tech beat Texas, so they for sure can't be behind Texas, so:
Tech
Texas
Okla.

Wait, didn't Oklahoma beat Tech? So it should go:
Oklahoma
Tech
Texas

WTF? How do you decipher this madness?

SEC will be easy, whoever wins the SEC championship game gets to go to the big game.

You bet your ass that the BCS idiots are pulling for Tech to run the table so that they don't have to explain themselves on a 3 way tie. Don't let it happen Sooners. expose this stupid system and give life to the playoffs arguement

[El Turco]

before it comes to BCS, Big 12 idiots need to figure out who to put in their conference championship game.

[timd1218]

Can someone please explain to me why Penn State is still in the Top 10?

Same could be said about USC then. USC lost to Oregon State, a team Penn State beat. If USC is there, PSU deserves to be there as well.

Anyway, how is LSU still in the top 20?

They get destroyed in 2 out of their 3 losses. Their only good win is against an average Auburn team and it was by 5 points.

[A.J.]

before it comes to BCS, Big 12 idiots need to figure out who to put in their conference championship game.

I think we already have it locked up. It should be Texas Tech vs Missouri, but you will never know what happen. And I would love to see that matchup. Harrell vs Daniels and Crabtree vs Maclin would be awesome.

[J-Mezzy]

before it comes to BCS, Big 12 idiots need to figure out who to put in their conference championship game.

I agree. Move some teams from big 12 south division to Missouri's division. Even things a bit

[LAKESHOW]

Can someone please explain to me why Penn State is still in the Top 10?

Same could be said about USC then. USC lost to Oregon State, a team Penn State beat. If USC is there, PSU deserves to be there as well.

Anyway, how is LSU still in the top 20?

They get destroyed in 2 out of their 3 losses. Their only good win is against an average Auburn team and it was by 5 points.

drop the HATERade son, we would spank penn state by 59, and that would be at halftime.

[timd1218]

Can someone please explain to me why Penn State is still in the Top 10?

Same could be said about USC then. USC lost to Oregon State, a team Penn State beat. If USC is there, PSU deserves to be there as well.

Anyway, how is LSU still in the top 20?

They get destroyed in 2 out of their 3 losses. Their only good win is against an average Auburn team and it was by 5 points.

drop the HATERade son, we would spank penn state by 59, and that would be at halftime.

I'm not "hating" on USC. I'm just bringing up a valid point. Did I ever say PSU would beat USC?

[El Turco]

before it comes to BCS, Big 12 idiots need to figure out who to put in their conference championship game.

I think we already have it locked up. It should be Texas Tech vs Missouri, but you will never know what happen. And I would love to see that matchup. Harrell vs Daniels and Crabtree vs Maclin would be awesome.

i was talking hypothetical scenario where tech loses to oklahoma and every team finishes with one loss. of course it is lot clear if tech runs the table.

lake, there isnt a nfl team that could score 59 points on PSU defense

[LAKESHOW]

ah crap, it doesnt even matter. it actually wouldve been nice to have penn state jump the party with all of the overrated sec and big12 teams all up there. everyone up there could have 2 losses, and these punk voters would still place us behind them.

our defense is #1 in the nation.

texas tech has some gimmick offense, and we'll order up one #58 blitz up the middle, and we smash the passing game immediately.

[DelaneyRudd]

Any year besides this one I would root for a BCS matchup between Ball St. and Cincinnati. How stoked would that bowl committee be to get that ticket. If both Boise and Utah lose it could be a possibility. I sure hope the Utes go undefeated though.

[J-Mezzy]

ah crap, it doesnt even matter. it actually wouldve been nice to have penn state jump the party with all of the overrated sec and big12 teams all up there. everyone up there could have 2 losses, and these punk voters would still place us behind them.

our defense is #1 in the nation.

texas tech has some gimmick offense, and we'll order up one #58 blitz up the middle, and we smash the passing game immediately.

How are these teams overrated? Fl has been just as impressive(and more) than USC while beating tougher competition. The Big 12 teams have all played a much tougher schedule than USC....I don't see your logic? USC could very well be the best team, but there is no clear evidence stating that they are, as a matter of fact, the evidence indicates they are not.

As a Gator fan, I'm dying to get a piece of USC, if they beat us, that is fine. But I want them. They always get all of the media attention and love. I'd love to have a piece of USC, but doesn't look like they'll be able to climb high enough, so I will enjoy a match up with a deserving Big 12 team.

By the way, the overrated SEC has won 3 national championships this decade. Could be 4 in early 2009.

The overrated Big 12 Texas team beat USC in the Rose Bowl which is pretty much homefield advantage for USC.

[hermes]

i don't think there is anyone giving Tech a chance against Oklahoma

[LAKESHOW]

you wanna piece of USC??
that must be a joke, because we smoke those teams in the sec on a regular basis.

heck, didnt you guys send a team to the SEC championship game recently? we slapped 70 and 50pts on that team. those teams absolutely have no chance when they play us, and they know it. the proof is there. the score is there. and the talent and speed on our team is 2nd to none!

[LAKESHOW]

i don't think there is anyone giving Tech a chance against Oklahoma

i think however, that would be a great scenario.

oklahoma loses to tech.
moves USC to 5.

alabama defeats florida in sec title game.
moves USC to 4.

tech loses to missouri in big12 title game
moves USC to 3.

alabama vs. USC in national title game.

texas by virtue of not winning their conference would not make it, and besides, how would they jump a team they lost to in texas tech.

[craig01]

Just think, Oregon State controls the Trojan destiny.....or rather, "destination"..... LOL.