Week 10 game thread

[hermes]

Iowa is actually winning 10-0 over Northwestern

LSU-Alabama later today
Ohio St.-Penn St.
Oregon St.-California
Oklahoma-Nebraska
Navy- Notre Dame

Virginia Tech and Boise St. won earlier this week

[hermes]

uh oh stanzi is hurt

[hermes]

well dang

[CRACKSMATIC]

cant believe The Irish are losing to Navy

[timd1218]

cant believe The Irish are losing to Navy

When your defensive coordinators are awful and your head coach shouldn't be a head coach, you lose to crappy teams.

[Icness]

I just left the Notre Dame game, trying to avoid the inevtiable riot. These people can sniff out non-Irish fans...

[timd1218]

Bye Bye Charlie Weis. You will be canned after the season.

[LAKESHOW]

NOOO! we love charlie weis. keep him there for a few more years!

[timd1218]

NOOO! we love charlie weis. keep him there for a few more years!

Lol. No thanks. Im starting to get tired of ND getting blown out by USC or almost winning and saying next year will be different.

[LAKESHOW]

wow unbelievable.

the ducks play a near flawless game. totally hittin on all cylinders and execute to perfection against us last week. then get blown out.

saw the game, the final score is not indicative of the actual beating the runningback was giving to oregon.

[LAKESHOW]

NOOO! we love charlie weis. keep him there for a few more years!

Lol. No thanks. Im starting to get tired of ND getting blown out by USC or almost winning and saying next year will be different.

how about harbaugh from stanford? he is a pretty good coach.

[KingInExile]

Wow, Jahvid Best just took a NASTY fall! Never a good sign when the medics are out there with the trainers. Hope all turns out well for him. That is not something any football fan should ever want to see.

[GYBE]

NOOO! we love charlie weis. keep him there for a few more years!

Lol. No thanks. Im starting to get tired of ND getting blown out by USC or almost winning and saying next year will be different.

how about harbaugh from stanford? he is a pretty good coach.

Brian Kelly.

[timd1218]

how about harbaugh from stanford? he is a pretty good coach.

Brian Kelly.

That is who I would like to see coach. He also has a clause in his contract that would allow him to leave Cinci to coach at ND. One thing I am worried about with Weis getting fired is, who will transfer and which recruits this year will leave the class. That could very well put the program back a few more steps.

[William Hung]

What do you all have for Heisman now? Here's what I have:

http://mjc88.blogspot.com/

[studcrackers]

clausen over tebow? lol no, why not kase keenum from houston then? he's definitely more deserving now

as of now i dont think anyone is really deserving of the heisman but ingram is beasting and homer glasses aside id say he deserves it right now

as for the bama/lsu game, defense didnt look its best today at all, especially before lee came in. and though it benefited bama i hate hate hate winning b/c of possible bs calls like that INT no call, that interception was clear as day and lsu deserved a chance to score but in reality never got it b/c of inability to stop bama again and them using all 3 timeouts prior to that drive

[William Hung]

Clausen: 2770 yds, 20 TD, 3 INT, 162.9 rating
Tebow: 1531 yds, 11 TD, 4 INT, 156.6 rating and 578 rushing, 9 TD

Like I said, Clausen has carried the team despite not having Floyd for most of the year and has put up the best passing numbers in the nation. Tebow has been exposed in the passing game, if you take away his inflated stats against Charleston Southern and Troy you'll see he's nowhere near Heisman level. He has just 6 passing TDs in 7 games against real competition (and that's being generous, including Vanderbilt and Kentucky as real competition) with 4 INT (two returned for TDs) and in general has been riding the coat tails of a great defense. The defense is far more instrumental in the 9-0 record than Tebow and/or the offense. Keenum gets credit, but not legitimate Heisman consideration for playing in a pass-happy system against garbage competition.

[timd1218]

Clausen: 2770 yds, 20 TD, 3 INT, 162.9 rating
Tebow: 1531 yds, 11 TD, 4 INT, 156.6 rating and 578 rushing, 9 TD

Like I said, Clausen has carried the team despite not having Floyd for most of the year and has put up the best passing numbers in the nation. Tebow has been exposed in the passing game, if you take away his inflated stats against Charleston Southern and Troy you'll see he's nowhere near Heisman level. He has just 6 passing TDs in 7 games against real competition (and that's being generous, including Vanderbilt and Kentucky as real competition) with 4 INT (two returned for TDs) and in general has been riding the coat tails of a great defense. The defense is far more instrumental in the 9-0 record than Tebow and/or the offense. Keenum gets credit, but not legitimate Heisman consideration for playing in a pass-happy system against garbage competition.

I'm an ND fan as well as a JC fan and I think Clausen should be a heisman candidate, but your logic is flawed. Clausen hasn't played against great competition either. He has played against 1 good defense in USC and didn't play as well he should have. I personally don't see how people can call Teabow a heisman candidate this year. He is an awful passing QB. Like you said, he has road the coat tails of the defense this season and shouldn't be mentioned in the heisman discussion. Keenum deserves to be considered just as much as Clausen and Teabow in this competition. Notre Dame runs a pass offense first just like Keenum. Teabow probably wouldn't put up the numbers Keenum has if Teabow was in the same offense, so yes, Keenum deserves to have recognition.

Honestly, no one this season has stuck out to me as the front runner. If I had to choose right now, I wouldn't know who to pick. Just wait and see till the season is over.

[William Hung]

Clausen: 2770 yds, 20 TD, 3 INT, 162.9 rating
Tebow: 1531 yds, 11 TD, 4 INT, 156.6 rating and 578 rushing, 9 TD

Like I said, Clausen has carried the team despite not having Floyd for most of the year and has put up the best passing numbers in the nation. Tebow has been exposed in the passing game, if you take away his inflated stats against Charleston Southern and Troy you'll see he's nowhere near Heisman level. He has just 6 passing TDs in 7 games against real competition (and that's being generous, including Vanderbilt and Kentucky as real competition) with 4 INT (two returned for TDs) and in general has been riding the coat tails of a great defense. The defense is far more instrumental in the 9-0 record than Tebow and/or the offense. Keenum gets credit, but not legitimate Heisman consideration for playing in a pass-happy system against garbage competition.

I'm an ND fan as well as a JC fan and I think Clausen should be a heisman candidate, but your logic is flawed. Clausen hasn't played against great competition either. He has played against 1 good defense in USC and didn't play as well he should have. I personally don't see how people can call Teabow a heisman candidate this year. He is an awful passing QB. Like you said, he has road the coat tails of the defense this season and shouldn't be mentioned in the heisman discussion. Keenum deserves to be considered just as much as Clausen and Teabow in this competition. Notre Dame runs a pass offense first just like Keenum. Teabow probably wouldn't put up the numbers Keenum has if Teabow was in the same offense, so yes, Keenum deserves to have recognition.

Honestly, no one this season has stuck out to me as the front runner. If I had to choose right now, I wouldn't know who to pick. Just wait and see till the season is over.

Notre Dame's competition has been better than Florida's as a whole, but for the sake of the argument lets assume they're just equal. Clausen has thrown for almost twice as many yards and touchdowns as Tebow with one fewer pick, it's not like the numbers are close and the fact that Tebow runs also and is undefeated should be a tiebreaker, they're QBs and their passing numbers are nowhere close.

I agree with your sentiments that no one has stuck out as a no brainer winner this year, especially the QBs. That's why I have the Ingram and Spiller 1 and 2, they've been dynamic backs all year long and they don't have the shortcomings and flaws that Tebow (subpar stats, overall sloppy play, been helped by a great defense and running game all year), Clausen (team not great record), McCoy (struggled in the big game against Oklahoma, numbers down all around). Spiller has been fantastic and his Heisman campaign is just gaining steam, no one else in the nation is as much of a force in every facet of the game.


mjc88.blogspot.com

[NO-KG-AI]

I could see USC dropping as low as 15 with a tough loss to a stacked team like Stanford.