Jim Edmonds, the 7th Best CF of All-Time?

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Post#41 » by Mardy2Curry » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:23 am

Bleeding Green wrote:Only 38 points higher? Yeah, and Babe Ruth only hit 332 more homers than Jim Rice.


That of course is a way bigger margin than .038 while Andruw still has another 6-7 good years ahead of him.
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Post#42 » by Bleeding Green » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:25 am

Not really. .038 points of OBP is gigantic. It's like the difference between being a bench player and being on the All-Star team.

Edmonds has had a better career until now. Duh, he's older. Andruw will obviously surpass him. The end.
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Post#43 » by jefbo_80 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:30 pm

Jim Edmonds stinks now...
He stunk last year...
He's done...

This ain't even a discussion...
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Post#44 » by bigboy1234 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:34 pm

jefbo_80 wrote:Jim Edmonds stinks now...
He stunk last year...
He's done...

This ain't even a discussion...

Greatest.Logic.Ever. Let's judge a player on what he did last year and this year, yay. This is exactly why Jeff Kent will be considered a better player than Craig Biggio I guess.

Yeah, and Jones could have a career ending injury tomorrow.

As of now, and the next couple years Edmonds will and should be considered the greater player.

Also I'm curious as to how you know a player is coming into there prime. Because you said Andruw is just coming into his, but you really can't prove that in any way. Just because Edmonds had has best years age 30-35, sure as hell doesn't mean Andruw will. For all we know Andruw is already past his prime.

Like I said earlier this is huge:

Edmonds has 6 full seasons were his EQA is better than Jones' best.

Theres no way you can say Jones is a better player than Edmonds was currently. Yeah, you can make that argument in a few years, but until then I'm not seeing it. You just can't say well Jones might have his prime ahead of him, he's better. I'm actually remembering this CF named Griffey who had his last great season at the age of 30, who says that won't happen to Andruw?
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Post#45 » by High 5 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:57 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Not really. .038 points of OBP is gigantic. It's like the difference between being a bench player and being on the All-Star team.

Edmonds has had a better career until now. Duh, he's older. Andruw will obviously surpass him. The end.


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Post#46 » by jefbo_80 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:14 pm

bigboy1234 wrote:
jefbo_80 wrote:Jim Edmonds stinks now...
He stunk last year...
He's done...

This ain't even a discussion...

Greatest.Logic.Ever. Let's judge a player on what he did last year and this year, yay. This is exactly why Jeff Kent will be considered a better player than Craig Biggio I guess.

Yeah, and Jones could have a career ending injury tomorrow.

As of now, and the next couple years Edmonds will and should be considered the greater player.

Also I'm curious as to how you know a player is coming into there prime. Because you said Andruw is just coming into his, but you really can't prove that in any way. Just because Edmonds had has best years age 30-35, sure as hell doesn't mean Andruw will. For all we know Andruw is already past his prime.

Like I said earlier this is huge:

Edmonds has 6 full seasons were his EQA is better than Jones' best.

Theres no way you can say Jones is a better player than Edmonds was currently. Yeah, you can make that argument in a few years, but until then I'm not seeing it. You just can't say well Jones might have his prime ahead of him, he's better. I'm actually remembering this CF named Griffey who had his last great season at the age of 30, who says that won't happen to Andruw?


Edmonds is done. Jones is still in his prime... 50/40 HR's last two years... Only 29...
Has been a better defensive CF and his career numbers are on par with Edmonds and Edmonds is 7 years older...

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Post#47 » by bigboy1234 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:58 pm

jefbo_80 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Edmonds is done. Jones is still in his prime... 50/40 HR's last two years... Only 29...
Has been a better defensive CF and his career numbers are on par with Edmonds and Edmonds is 7 years older...

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You're a homer. Shut up.

So if Andruw's career ended today, you would say he was a better player? No, so as you would say shut up.

I don't think you understand that to this point Andruw hasn't been better.

Also, career numbers mean nothing, are Pete Rose and Hank Aaron considered the best hitters of all time no, beacause they put up those numbers over a long span of time. Putting up six full seasons of a higher EQA is a lot more impressive than his career numbers.

Edit-This is the last thing I'm gonna say in this thread, because you don't understand that you can't predict what Jones may do, and say he's better than Edmonds. To this point Edmonds has a better career, fact, something you don't understand. Will Jones have a better career when it's all said and done, theres a very very good chance of that like I said numerous times, but he has yet to do it, so he can't be considered better yet.
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Post#48 » by Reservoirdawgs » Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:07 pm

Jones and Edmonds don't have similar career numbers at all. Edmonds's OPS absolutely kills Jones's.
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Post#49 » by jefbo_80 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:12 pm

[quote="bigboy1234"][/quote]

Andruw Jones has been the best defensive player, better power hitter, better run producer thus far... He's been the better player... Edmonds has been a better batting average, OPS guy...

Who would take Edmonds over Jones who really knows baseball? Come on...

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