RIP Josh Hancock

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #41 » by **Buck You** » Sun May 6, 2007 11:26 pm

Scrub Sura wrote:I do feel for his family as well, but I could careless that he died.

Perhaps with the truth coming out, ESPN will stop treating him like he was this wonderful human being and an important part of the Cardinals.

The guy had a similar run-in a couple of days before that was covered up and had a reputation among teammates before arriving in St. Louis.

Kudos to the St. Louis media for contiuning to report the truth. No matter what "Town Drunk" Tony LaRussa says.

Exactly.

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SportsWorld · Post #42 » by **SportsWorld** » Mon May 7, 2007 12:49 am

Yes I agree with the posts on this page.

Post #43 » by **SmallTownJournalist303** » Mon May 7, 2007 2:57 am

Sham wrote:Um excuse me for being normal here, but:

If you drink drive, you deserve to be punished by the law of the land.

But you don't deserve to freakin' die.

Apparently some people have forgotten this.

Umm, did no one read this?

Post #44 » by **Three34** » Mon May 7, 2007 5:48 am

I drink drove once. Judge me on that if you like. You seem to judge everybody else, so do it.

Also, can someone please stab me in the face and then s**t all over my grave. I deserve it.

Oh, and whatever you do, have no sympathy for me. Ever. I'm a murderer!

Post #45 » by **studcrackers** » Mon May 7, 2007 7:52 am

Sham wrote:I drink drove once. Judge me on that if you like. You seem to judge everybody else, so do it.

Also, can someone please stab me in the face and then s**t all over my grave. I deserve it.

Oh, and whatever you do, have no sympathy for me. Ever. I'm a murderer!

judging by that opening statement id say you've done it more than once. :lol:

Post #46 » by **Three34** » Mon May 7, 2007 8:15 am

There you go, some predjudging! Good times. I like you more now.

However, for the record, no. It was just once. And I don't drink alcohol any more and haven't for a while.

These details don't matter, though, for I'm still apparently the scum of the earth. I will now turn a gun on myself and better the planet.

sideshowking24 · Post #47 » by **sideshowking24** » Mon May 7, 2007 11:46 am

man, you guys are getting pretty heated with this. I thought this was to be a tribute to Hancock but now it has turned into a bash Josh Hancock because he is a "murderer" thread.... the fact of the matter is, someone died and you guys are showing no respect for that. yes, he was driving while drunk, but he had no intentions of killing anyone and he didn't. I'm not condoning his actions but he didn't deserve to die.

sideshowking24 · Post #48 » by **sideshowking24** » Mon May 7, 2007 12:01 pm

and besides... who are you guys to sit here and judge anyone?

edney2polynice_ · Post #49 » by **edney2polynice_** » Mon May 7, 2007 2:24 pm

In reply to the few posters above:

1) read my post more clearly, I never said he was a murderer - stop taking things out of context. Geez!

2) I never said he deserved to die, I just said I have no sympathy for his death.

3) I wonder how your opinions would be if the situation was different and he ended up killing a family of 5? Would you still be sympathetic towards him? Because it very easily could have happened.

sideshowking24 · Post #50 » by **sideshowking24** » Mon May 7, 2007 5:33 pm

yes, that very easily could have happened, but it didn't. stop making up what ifs to justify what you are saying about him. the man made a mistake and he payed the ultimate price for it so that should be punishment enough... now, if he really did kill a family of 5, then I would give you my opinion about that, be he didn't, so I'm not.

kloo7 · Post #51 » by **kloo7** » Mon May 7, 2007 8:12 pm

As someone who works with kids affected by tragedies similar to this, I find very naive and very ridiculous for people to state that Hancock's death simply affects only his own life.

He is leaving behind a greiving family, not to mention the tow truck driver and others on the scene when it happened who now have to have that image in their heads for the rest of their lives. Also the paramedics, police, fire fighters, fans, teamates, etc, etc, etc. who now all have to deal with a situation that was stupid, preventable and idiotic.

A death like this <b> never </b> punishes just the person who died.

And the "what ifs" in a case like this ring very true. In this circumstance we are lucky that no others were killed by his stupid decisions. Hitting up 3 bars in one night, as some of the rumors state, and then insisting you are ok to drive is idiotic.

I don't feel better that he is dead, however I don't really mourn his death as much as I would other athletes, and I do hope that this incident can be used to prevent possible future accidents like this.

sideshowking24 · Post #52 » by **sideshowking24** » Mon May 7, 2007 8:22 pm

kloo7 wrote:As someone who works with kids affected by tragedies similar to this, I find very naive and very ridiculous for people to state that Hancock's death simply affects only his own life.

He is leaving behind a greiving family, not to mention the tow truck driver and others on the scene when it happened who now have to have that image in their heads for the rest of their lives. Also the paramedics, police, fire fighters, fans, teamates, etc, etc, etc. who now all have to deal with a situation that was stupid, preventable and idiotic.

A death like this <b> never </b> punishes just the person who died.

And the "what ifs" in a case like this ring very true. In this circumstance we are lucky that no others were killed by his stupid decisions. Hitting up 3 bars in one night, as some of the rumors state, and then insisting you are ok to drive is idiotic.

I don't feel better that he is dead, however I don't really mourn his death as much as I would other athletes, and I do hope that this incident can be used to prevent possible future accidents like this.

...that was all I was getting at. all of the people who posting about this incident were making it seem as if they felt that he was better off dead. for people to say they don't give a s*** about his death is ridiculus to me. dead is never better... I do though, understand how the decision to drive drunk effects more than just the driver, but I just feel that whenever someone loses their life, people should show a little bit of respect. after all, he did make a mistake, granted it was a big one, but it was a mistake.

edney2polynice_ · Post #53 » by **edney2polynice_** » Tue May 8, 2007 3:01 am

sideshowking24 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

...that was all I was getting at. all of the people who posting about this incident were making it seem as if they felt that he was better off dead. for people to say they don't give a s*** about his death is ridiculus to me. dead is never better... I do though, understand how the decision to drive drunk effects more than just the driver, but I just feel that whenever someone loses their life, people should show a little bit of respect. after all, he did make a mistake, granted it was a big one, but it was a mistake.

Bro, I went back and read all the prior post and did not find one poster who said he was better off dead. The only thing close to that was ppl were stating that luckily he was the only one who died.

Killing & raping a person is a " big mistake" too, should they be showed the same sympathy after they kill themselves or they are put to death?

edney2polynice_ · Post #54 » by **edney2polynice_** » Tue May 8, 2007 3:03 am

sideshowking24 wrote:yes, that very easily could have happened, but it didn't. stop making up what ifs to justify what you are saying about him. the man made a mistake and he payed the ultimate price for it so that should be punishment enough... now, if he really did kill a family of 5, then I would give you my opinion about that, be he didn't, so I'm not.

Well it happens everyday in America, everyday. I know because I'm scraping innocent victims body parts off the road way.

sideshowking24 · Post #55 » by **sideshowking24** » Tue May 8, 2007 4:04 am

ok, so maybe the better off dead thing was an exaggeration. to me, its just what a few of all seem to be getting at. this was said though...

edney2polynice_ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Sorry, but like I said, I feel for his family and that is all. I really don't give a sh*t that he died, I've seen too many of these go the other way -- the DUI driver gets a scratch and takes away three innocent lives.

... I didn't exaggerate that. and man I get the fact that drinking and driving happenes way to often in this world. I'm not and never have said that it was ok to do either. I just felt that people weren't respecting the death of a human being, and that bothered me. thats all.

edney2polynice_ · Post #56 » by **edney2polynice_** » Tue May 8, 2007 5:01 am

sideshowking24 wrote:ok, so maybe the better off dead thing was an exaggeration. to me, its just what a few of all seem to be getting at. this was said though...

-= original quote snipped =-

... I didn't exaggerate that. and man I get the fact that drinking and driving happenes way to often in this world. I'm not and never have said that it was ok to do either. I just felt that people weren't respecting the death of a human being, and that bothered me. thats all.

Respect is given where respect is received. He didn't respect his own life, why should I? He didn't respect the lives of others, so why should I respect his?

We'll have to agree to disagree, I feel that respect is earned.

sideshowking24 · Post #57 » by **sideshowking24** » Tue May 8, 2007 4:40 pm

you have a good point there. I won't argue with that... you're right we'll just agree to disagree.

Post #58 » by **lpsevier** » Tue May 8, 2007 5:35 pm

This thread reeks of self righteousness.

Post #59 » by **Basketball Jesus** » Tue May 8, 2007 5:41 pm

lpsevier wrote:This thread reeks of self righteousness.

WEFFPIM · Post #60 » by **WEFFPIM** » Tue May 8, 2007 7:13 pm

lpsevier wrote:This thread reeks of self righteousness.