Rate my "no-strategy" team (12-Team Standard)

[SeniorWalker]

2nd year fantasy football player. Was supposed to be the 11th pick in this league, a 2-division/24 team (winner of each play in the superbowl. Each division is treated as its own entity until then) but a mishap by the commish ended up having me at the 6th slot in the other of the 2 divisions. My preparation went to waste and I improvised.


QB - Aaron Rodgers
RB1 - Frank Gore
RB2 - DeAngelo Williams
RB3 - Jonathan Stewart
WR1 - Jeremy Maclin
WR2 - Percy Harvin
WR3 - Santana Moss
TE - Rob Gronowski
D/ST - Patriots
K - Robbie Gould
RB4 - James Starks
RB5 - Jason Snelling
RB6 - Derrick Ward (Dropped WR Roy Williams)
WR4 - Jacoby Ford
WR5 - Deion Branch

>I know I'm hoping for a lot of injury replacement upside here, especially with the Williams/Stewart duo.
>I took A. Rodgers first after passing on Arian Foster. I think I'll end up having made the right move, as he's obviously got some concerns and I don't think he would have replicated last year anyway.
>Frank Gore gets hurt, but he doesn't have any legit threat behind him and can be a top 5 back.
>Starks has some shot of replacing Ryan Grant in Green Bay and would become a legit RB2 (that injury upside thing again)
>Maclin isn't exactly a WR1 (though close), but IIRC he was the best option left out there at my position and I had to grab a decent WR before too long. I also think Harvin and Moss are gonna do fine.
>I'm not sure about Derrick Ward, since Ben Tate is being talked about as the Foster injury step-in, but he's done well before and I think he'd still get minutes in that scenario. I only grabbed him because Roy Williams is being thought lowly of these days.
>Tom Brady likes to throw to Deion Branch, doesn't he? Not a lot of potential with other WR threats in NE, but of course I'll be scouting for other options anyway.


Thoughts and Comments please.

[Bank Shot]

I'm slightly confused on the set up of the league. I'm guessing its two seperate 12 team leagues with the winners playing eachother. If this is a 24 team league then you're money and ignore all of what I'm about to say

I'm not crazy over the team. IMO, when you go QB early, you end up with holes in too many places and I think you can see that with this team. I don't mind Gore and DeAngelo as your 1/2 RB. Its good but not great. I like DeAngelo this year and if Gore stays healthy, then you'll get good value out of that pick. I don't like having Stewart paired with DeAngelo. It limits your team's upside and its tough having two starters linked to a potentially poor offense. It looks like DeAngelo will be taking a greater percentage of the touches this year (going by what I've seen in preseason plus that contract) so I'd try to see what Stewart's value is around the league and move him if the price is right.

You're WRs are good but not great as well. I'm not a huge fan of Maclin (too many mouths to feed) but I do like Harvin a lot, even though this isn't PPR. Moss is fine as a WR3.

I do like you're bench, there's some nice upside there. I think Starks takes over as GB's RB at some point this year so if you do get rid of Stewart, he'll be a nice replacement. I'd actually try to package Stewart plus one of your top 2 WRs to get a WR upgrade. I think Starks will produce just as much if not more than Stewart right out of the gate so you wouldn't lose anything at RB. Snelling has nice potential but he is basically just a handcuff. If Turner goes down you're money though. Hold Ward until we get a better picture of what's going on with Foster's hammy. Ford and Branch are both solid plug ins for bye weeks.

[SeniorWalker]

I'm slightly confused on the set up of the league. I'm guessing its two seperate 12 team leagues with the winners playing eachother. If this is a 24 team league then you're money and ignore all of what I'm about to say

I'm not crazy over the team. IMO, when you go QB early, you end up with holes in too many places and I think you can see that with this team. I don't mind Gore and DeAngelo as your 1/2 RB. Its good but not great. I like DeAngelo this year and if Gore stays healthy, then you'll get good value out of that pick. I don't like having Stewart paired with DeAngelo. It limits your team's upside and its tough having two starters linked to a potentially poor offense. It looks like DeAngelo will be taking a greater percentage of the touches this year (going by what I've seen in preseason plus that contract) so I'd try to see what Stewart's value is around the league and move him if the price is right.

You're WRs are good but not great as well. I'm not a huge fan of Maclin (too many mouths to feed) but I do like Harvin a lot, even though this isn't PPR. Moss is fine as a WR3.
I'd actually try to package Stewart plus one of your top 2 WRs to get a WR upgrade.

For starters, the league set-up is simple, really. 2 divisions of 12 teams (standard, really). The winner of each division will face off in week 16.


About that trade....

Me (Outgoing): WR Maclin, RB Stewart

for

Option 1: WR Mike Wallace, RB Ladainian Tomlinson

Option 2: WR Calvin Johnson, RB Jerome Harrison

Option 3: WR Larry Fitzgerald, RB Javon Ringer

Option 4: WR Vincent Jackson, RB Delone Carter


Just to throw some possibilities out there. Not sure about Stewart's value yet either, but maybe I could get an early taker? Do you think these WRs options are too high value to be pursuing, or do I have it right? (Going off of roster need by my league. Some teams don't "need" more RB strength.)


Edit: Actually, I just realized that I could offer my 2 players while only expecting back a WR1 (but only 1 player) and have a greater shot of the trade being accepted. Would I be losing too much in that scenario?

[vincecarter4pres]

No one is doing a single one of those trades unless they're smoking crack, you absolutely own in all of them it isn't even close.

Stewart is almost worthless unless DeAngelo Williams goes down, if anything all those backs alone are better then him and the receivers you're looking to swap will all be in the top 10 if they don't get injured by the end of the year.

I would argue options 2 through 4 will all be top 5 fantasy WR's this year with Mario Manningham and Andre Johnson rounding it out along with some random guy like Kenny Britt competing with those 5 to sneak in there and take their place.

Roddy White, Wayne, Bowe and Mike Wallace should all be up there as well, but I have high, high hopes for all three of the guys, either way I think you're reaching although there is nothing wrong with offering those deals and hoping someone is stupid.

As for your team, I don't like some of your specific picks but in a 24 team league your squad is beyond solid.

To tell you the truth though, if I'm you, I'm offering something along the lines of Maclin, Rodgers, Gore or Williams and Stewart to a team with a different top QB, one of those Receivers you're looking at and a good back.

I don't know the shape of your league and so if any deal like this would be possible, but say:

Rodgers/Maclin/Gore/Stewart for Roethlisberger or Schaub/Forte or Blount/Fitzgerald

I'm not buying the hype on Rodgers fantasy wise.

I think he's fantastic in real life but his value doesn't equal out to where he's getting picked.

Even if he happened to be the #1 fantasy QB this year I'm not seeing some run away historical season like Brady or Manning in their career years, I'm seeing something like last year where in basic formats even if Rodgers was #1 the separation between him and the next 5 QB's was next to nothing.

But his name value should make people contemplate trades where they think the RB swap is basically even, but they downgrade their receiver a lot but gain a possible nice extra RB in Stewart.

In a 24 team league there is so little depth available on the waiver wire that a lot of guys may see that as a coup cause the guy they're dropping to make the trade legal is next to worthless.

So do something like this...

Find a team with one of each of these 3 groups:
Romo
Schaub
Roethlisberger
Brees
Ryan

Forte
Blount
Felix Jones
Hillis
Steven Jackson
Mendenhall
Bradshaw
Moreno
Turner

Calvin Johnson
Andre Johnson
Fitzgerald
Vincent Jackson
Roddy White
Wayne
Mike Wallace
Maybe Dwyane Bowe, Stevie Johnson or Hakeem Nicks or Manningham

Then offer:
Rodgers
Gore or Williams
Stewart
Moss

If they don't bite or counter with Maclin in there do it.

[SeniorWalker]

I forgot to elaborate on the 2 12-team divisions that are basically treated as their own entities. This means that there were 2 separate drafts for each division ( for example: I will not face anyone from the other division unless I make it all the way to to the superbowl) and one random guy in the other division could hypothetically have the same players as I. So no, I am not in a 24-team league or else, yeah, I'd be killing it.

[SeniorWalker]

No one is doing a single one of those trades unless they're smoking crack, you absolutely own in all of them it isn't even close.

Stewart is almost worthless unless DeAngelo Williams goes down, if anything all those backs alone are better then him and the receivers you're looking to swap will all be in the top 10 if they don't get injured by the end of the year.
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I had mentioned that I wasn't sure where Stewart's value would lay at this point, week 1. I would certainly change the offer to my 2 players for their one WR1, if that would get the job done.

[vincecarter4pres]

That's a 12 team league team? Ugh... I absolutely hate your team.

Yeah if I'm you I'm consolidating as many times as possible to get down to a Big 4 of starters and fill the rest with patch work starters off your bench and the waiver wires until some of them turn into studs, you can still make a strong run at it and wind up with a true top team by the end.

[vincecarter4pres]

No one is doing a single one of those trades unless they're smoking crack, you absolutely own in all of them it isn't even close.

Stewart is almost worthless unless DeAngelo Williams goes down, if anything all those backs alone are better then him and the receivers you're looking to swap will all be in the top 10 if they don't get injured by the end of the year.
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I had mentioned that I wasn't sure where Stewart's value would lay at this point, week 1. I would certainly change the offer to my 2 players for their one WR1, if that would get the job done.

In a 12 team league I see Stewart as having ultra low value, but hey, obviously everyone doesn't think alike, so if I was you I would throw out offers early and often until one gets accepted.

[SeniorWalker]

Alright I went out heavy with trade offers yesterday and got this one back:

Me (Outgoing): QB Aaron Rodgers

for

Guy (Incoming):
QB Kyle Orton
RB Felix Jones
WR Brandon Marshall
RB Bernard Scott

I'd have to go with either Kevin Kolb or Orton as my QB

[AGNT190]

Alright I went out heavy with trade offers yesterday and got this one back:

Me (Outgoing): QB Aaron Rodgers

for

Guy (Incoming):
QB Kyle Orton
RB Felix Jones
WR Brandon Marshall
RB Bernard Scott

I'd have to go with either Kevin Kolb or Orton as my QB

First of all, never look at a trad that way. Always determine who you are going to have to drop in order to make that trade possible. This will help you determine the real value of the trade. To me I would not do this. I think you can get more for Rogers. To me the trade would be this:

Rodgers
snelling
Ford
Derrick Ward

For

Orton (probably doesn't hold onto the job all year)
Jones( Injury risk who has never shown he can be effective for a whole year and with a full workload)
Marshall (Love the skill set but only had 1 TD last year and in the first game once again looked like he won't score much)
B. Scott (back up who is unproven)

From your team I do like Rodgers and think Ford will have a good season. Snelling and Ward aren't that good. Still, what you pay for with rodgers is consistency. You get a guy you know will perform above average everytime he takes the field. Unfortunately none of the players you are getting back have shown that type of consistency, so I would pass. I'd much rather hitch my fantasy dreams to Rodgers and Ford than the bunch he/she is offering you.