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Post#1 » by studcrackers » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:47 pm

Ok so this is my important league, my money league quick rundown of scoring and setup

1 qb, 2 rb's, 2 wr's, 1 te, 1 flex, 1 k, 1 team def.

1 pt. for 25 passing yards 6 pts. for pass td 5 pts. for 300+ yards passing (wish more leagues would do this)

1. pt. for 10 rushing or receiving 6 pts. for rush/rec. td 5 pts. for 100+ yards rushing or receiving

10 teams this year i had the 2nd pick (god i didnt like the 2nd pick, almost got my dad to trade the 1st pick but i couldnt be happier w/my 1st 3 picks)

1. matt forte
2. peyton manning
3. steve smith
4. marion barber
5. knowshon moreno
6. braylon edwards
7. owen daniels
8. antonio bryant
9. freddie jackson
10. big ben
11. sammy morris
12. zach miller
13. nyg defense
14. steve breaston
15. ryan longwell
16. justin fargas

sucked that we only had 10 teams instead of 12 seems like there was still plenty of talent undrafted but oh well. took a risk not getting 2 rb's in the 1st 3 picks but smith was a top 3 wr so i like that i got a top 3 guy at 3 positions.

hope knowshon is starting and bryant can do what he did last year or braylon can rebound from last year.
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Post#2 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:20 pm

I'll be dead honest, I think your team sucks balls for the 2nd overall pick in a 10 man league.
I like Forte a lot, but no way I take him over AP or Turner.
Your recievers are trash, I don't like you RBBC backs and your backups are terrible for a 10 team.
Just my honest opinion...
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Post#3 » by AKBlazerFan » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:28 pm

Manning was your second rounder?? I hope Brady and Brees were both gone. I would have spent that 2nd rounder on a STUD WR or really nice RB.

Also, Steve smith is a top 3 WR? I would easily take Fitz, Moss, Calvin and Andre Johnson over him. Smith is on par with Boldin, Jennings, White, and Wayne in my opinion.

Man, I do not like your team at all. Smith is injured (supposedly coming back for week 1), Barber is going to split with Choice and Jones, and I would have taken Turner or AP with the #2 if its not a PPR...
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Post#4 » by studcrackers » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:00 am

all those guys u mention blazer were taken. as for smith, maybe i overstated his case a little but the magazine i got has him ranked 3rd, he had 1400 yards in 14 games last year and 8 hundred yard games last year (tied most in the league and remember this league rewards 100 yard games)

barber isnt gonna lose much from choice and a little from jones, he's still the goalline back

as for forte over turner, i understand i just dont feel to safe with turner, plus he's facing a much tougher schedule and isnt a double threat. i tried to get the #1 pick to get peterson but it wasnt happening.

i may have overdrafted moreno but he's a rookie rb that could start, nothing wrong w/that, only negative was missing out on tony gonzalez (i like owen daniels to keep improving.) also i do get freddie jackson for at least the 1st 3 games w/marshawn lynch out

i dont see that big a problem with my wr's especially if bryant picks up where he left off.


it's not my best team ive ever had but with my big 3 up top it'll allow me to contend on any given week
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Post#5 » by Sinistar6 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:38 am

To get Barber in the 4th is a steel. I think you will do well this year.
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Post#6 » by Cliff Levingston » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:07 pm

Cliff Levingston would've sat on the QB a little bit longer unless they were all coming off the board that early. You could've probably got Schaub, Romo or McNabb a couple rounds later and not have experienced much a drop-off from Manning.

Cliff Levingston isn't too high on Turner either and would take Forte (and Jones-Drew) over Turner 10 times out of 10 in a normal league. The extra points for a 100 yard game make it interesting though as Turner stands a decent chance at out rushing Forte this year.

I think you took Fred Jackson and Sammy Morris way too high, but we'll see. Jackson will be a nice play while Lynch is suspended, but after that, he's a strict backup quality guy at best. Cliff Levingston is avoiding New England running backs like the plague since they have 4 of them that could feasibly all split time. Also, pick up Michael Bush instead of Fargas if he's there because Fargas will probably end up being the third back in Oakland. However, Cliff Levingston would pick up a guy like James Davis long before Michael Bush though.
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Post#7 » by OMPunk » Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:47 pm

studcrackers wrote:Ok so this is my important league, my money league quick rundown of scoring and setup

1 qb, 2 rb's, 2 wr's, 1 te, 1 flex, 1 k, 1 team def.

1 pt. for 25 passing yards 6 pts. for pass td 5 pts. for 300+ yards passing (wish more leagues would do this)

1. pt. for 10 rushing or receiving 6 pts. for rush/rec. td 5 pts. for 100+ yards rushing or receiving

10 teams this year i had the 2nd pick (god i didnt like the 2nd pick, almost got my dad to trade the 1st pick but i couldnt be happier w/my 1st 3 picks)

1. matt forte
2. peyton manning
3. steve smith
4. marion barber
5. knowshon moreno
6. braylon edwards
7. owen daniels
8. antonio bryant
9. freddie jackson
10. big ben
11. sammy morris
12. zach miller
13. nyg defense
14. steve breaston
15. ryan longwell
16. justin fargas

sucked that we only had 10 teams instead of 12 seems like there was still plenty of talent undrafted but oh well. took a risk not getting 2 rb's in the 1st 3 picks but smith was a top 3 wr so i like that i got a top 3 guy at 3 positions.

hope knowshon is starting and bryant can do what he did last year or braylon can rebound from last year.


Just stating the obvious here....I would have went Turner or AP with the second pick, whichever was left. Knowshon was picked too high for my tastes and your RB situation is gonna really hurt on bye weeks or if Forte goes down. I just think Chicago is going to be way more pass oriented with a great QB.
Love Peyton and I would draft him second round if he was still available, but most of my leagues reward QBs pretty well.
For a ten team league though you should have been stacked at most positions...for instance in my ten team league I managed with the 9th pick.

Starters
QB: Drew Brees
WR: TJ/Roddy White/Anthony Gonzalez
RB: Frank Gore/Ronnie Brown
TE: Chris Cooley
K: David Akers
DEF: Giants

with a bench of

Matt Cassell
Jericho Cotchery
Bernard Berian
Marshawn Lynch (he fell WAY low)
Darren Sproles
Heath Miller

I think 10 team leagues are too small, I prefer the 12-14 teams, makes you pay more attention to the guys on the next tier (below the stars).
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Post#8 » by hermes » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:49 pm

i don't have a problem with forte #2, turner isn't going to be what he was last year. should still be a top back but Ryan is going to improve, throw the ball more, and turners touches should go down so they can save him some

manning is always good, so you can't really go wrong there- and waiting on a qb probably wouldn't have been an option because the scoring system weighs qb's pretty heavy so the good ones were going to go fast. not thrilled about big ben as a back up

not a fan of the wr's. smith will be good, but i've never really liked him, edwards sucks, and the rest aren't anything special

rb's are ok, i like forte, and moreno this year, barber should be good and jackson should be good early

i also really like owen daniels

i think there is a lot of room for improvment, k, d, te, starting qb, and rbs are pretty solid
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Post#9 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:18 am

If this was a 12 team league I would say he had drafted a very good team, but he should have much better quality after the 1st few rounds in a ten team.
I took Moreno in a competitive private league 12 teamer today in the 7th round and that might have been a little early.
Looking at his team at face value it's not so bad, but when he posts rosters of other teams in such a deep league is when you start facepalming.

I want to post my roster in this thread even though I might start another one, just to give example to how bad his team looks in relation(7th overall pick,12 team, round in paranthesis):

QB Aaron Rodgers(3)
WR Randy Moss(2)
WR TJ Houshmanzadeh(4)
WR Braylon Edwards(5)
RB Steven Jackson(1)
RB Darren McFadden(6)
TE Jeremy Shockey(8)
WR/RB Knowshon Moreno(7)
WR/TE Tony Ginn Jr.(10)
K Nate Kaeding(17)
DEF San Diego(12)

My bench might even yield some of my starters:
Beannie Wells(9)
Donald Brown(11)
Kyle Orton(13)
Troy Williamson(14)
Jamaal Charles(15)
Patrick Crayton(16)

Again, this is a competitive 12 team league where some normal sleepers were going early.

If just one of my running backs, let alone 2, pan out after S Jax, my team is extremely competitive and this is why I loaded up on running backs with potential with a lot of picks because I sacrificed another stud RB to stack my recievers. It is a PPR league with bonuses as well.
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Post#10 » by hermes » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:43 pm

your wr's aren't that stacked. moss is obviously great, and housh should be pretty good but edwards sucks and williamson sucks too

ginn is ok, and crayton is decent

though with brady being back that should bring up moss's numbers to offset what your not going to get from braylon
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Post#11 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:23 pm

I think Housh will be an absolute beast this year, something like catches in the 90's to 100's, double digit TD's over 1000 yards.
Braylon I expect to be around 80 catches, 1100 yards and 9 or 10 TD's.
Ginn is only my flex spot guy and he has steadily improved and it is his 3rd year and that 3rd year thing seems to hold true like 75% of the time on WR's that have shown potential(I think I might be exaggerating a little, lol).
Just thought my team has crazy balance and is pretty stacked top to bottom.
In hindsight, as super high as I am on Rodgers, I might have went with a stud WR or RB at that point, but Greg Jennings was the last of the guys I thought of as real studs left at WR that couldn't be had later, and he was taken literally the pick before I took Rodgers.
Roddy White, Dwayne Bowe and Colston were there, but with the exception of Colston I am not really mad at my decision.
Basically, I already had Moss and there was a rush on recievers right before and after Rodgers.
It is a PPR league and most of the top recievers are more valuable then the top RB's with the exception of maybe the top 5 RB's and Fitz and Andre Johnson were still the highest scoring players besides QB's.
The QB's had tier levels too and after Rodgers there was a pretty serious dive and I have a lot of faith in him.
I could easily be wrong, but I like all the specific guys I got.
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Post#12 » by hermes » Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:18 am

i also think rodgers is going to have a big year

but you had a chance at Roddy White and didn't pull the trigger? i see him as having a better year than housh
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Post#13 » by Zabriskie » Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:51 pm

The team it's OK, especially with the bonus points for the 100 yard mark. Smith might not grab many TD's but he'll easily have 1300 yards.

Moreno is going to start, but i don't think he'll get all the goal line carries, but he'll compensate nicely in the passing game.

The one pick that I really don't like is Owen Daniels. With Johnson and Walter I don't think he'll grab many TD's.

Also I think the Falcons players are overrated this year. The schedule is brutal. Tony G's adition doesn't help eaither. The only solid pick from them is Ryan.
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Post#14 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:03 pm

Zabriskie wrote:especially with the bonus points for the 100 yard mark. Smith might not grab many TD's but he'll easily have 1300 yards.

Agreed.

Moreno is going to start, but i don't think he'll get all the goal line carries, but he'll compensate nicely in the passing game.

I'm starting to sour on Moreno. He isn't going to start till at least week 2 and I doubt that. His knee is mangled, but supposedly doesn't need surgery. Buckhalter is a beast who if never injured would have been fantastic through his career. That's a big if, but it still means he is the ultimate fill in when he is healthy and the guy he is paid to backup isn't. I know this isn't Shannohan, but if Buckhalter gets the first 2 starts by default(which he is) and blows up, they will go with a committee with a majority going to Correll till he gets hurt.
I picked him myself in a couple leagues and I am scouring to get Buckhalter until I see what is happening and I am offering Moreno in all types of trades, although I doubt anyone bites, cause I am not truly selling low and have Buckhalter myself. Although I would package them, that's two roster spots the recieving team needs to use for one of my trades.

The one pick that I really don't like is Owen Daniels. With Johnson and Walter I don't think he'll grab many TD's.

I think he took him too early. There had to be better options in the 7th round, 2nd pick, such as Cooley, who will be a PPR monster even if he goes brick with touch downs again.
That doesn't mean that I don't like Daniels, cause I do, as long as Schaub stays healthy, that is key.
Schaub is nasty. If he is healthy, everyone important in that offense is a must start.

Also I think the Falcons players are overrated this year. The schedule is brutal. Tony G's adition doesn't help eaither. The only solid pick from them is Ryan.

Agreed.
Roddy White will have a solid year, but nothing better then last. Turner is an animal and I would still take him top 5, but against a tougher schedule he is not going to match last year's production.
I also question why they don't use him more often out of the backfield. He was very good in that aspect while in San Diego and there is just no excuse for completely igonoring that.
Gonzalez definitely snatches goal line opps from everyone and receptions in general.
Jenkins is so-so in general.
Even Ryan is just so-so in fantasy. In real life he is better, but I wouldn't want him as more then a backup on my team. Wouldn't even want him as part of a QBBC.
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Post#15 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:10 pm

hermes wrote:but you had a chance at Roddy White and didn't pull the trigger? i see him as having a better year than housh

I don't think too highly of him this season fantasy wise.
I think at best he matches his production from last year, which is very good, but I'm saying.
Their schedule is brutal, they added Gonzo and there is no way they ignore Turner's ability to catch the ball out of the backfield this year like they did last.

Housh on the other hand...watch out.
If Hassellback is really healthy, and I think he is, and he stays healthy, Housh is going to be a flatout stud and maybe top 5 in PPR leagues.
I predict 90 to 100 catches, over 10 yards per catch, so 1000+ yards and between 9 and 12 TD's.
That's a lot of points...
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Post#16 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:55 am

hermes wrote:your wr's aren't that stacked. moss is obviously great, and housh should be pretty good but edwards sucks.

I know it is only preseason and I'm not getting too excited, but damn my team would have lit it up this week if this was the regular season.
And that's with most of them playing one half or 3 quarters.
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