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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#281 » by Onus » Tue Jan 2, 2024 6:02 am

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Just like klay will regain his shot, the starters will start making shots again and kerr will try to win on the backs of that. Bomb some 3s and hit a good %. Winning while giving up 125.

It's fools gold, just like the winning streak that most mostly composed of bottom 10 teams.

Last and only time kerr prioritized system and 2 way play, was the 1 game moody started. It wasn't pretty.....for the other team because our defense was legit.

When did Kerr give up on defense?


The majority of the moves he makes ignores defense.

I feel like he gave up on it last year. When Mike brown left. But I’m not sure if it started earlier or not.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#282 » by Onus » Tue Jan 2, 2024 6:04 am

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Onus wrote:This team is broken and Kerr is clueless at how to fix it. The dark ages have already begun.

you get 3 guys want to get paid - JK, Moody and Klay...and wiggins who does not care...i dont understand why we are not making trades because clearly nobody is on the same page here


Unless you believe Mt and slater are lying, they singled out wiggins as the one guy who is fighting, caring, and being selfless.

And no reason to include moody either. He doesn't even play, he doesnt complain, nor is he the one that visibly pouts on the court. He's been a consumate team player even with his livelihood on the line. If anything, he deserves to take minutes from klay and jk who are cut from the same cloth as poole.

It’s clear it’s jk and Klay. And they’re the ones tanking us yet they continue to get more and more time. Kerr is living in bizarro world where he’s starting less deserving players because they act out and are bringing down the team.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#283 » by Onus » Tue Jan 2, 2024 6:05 am

Seriously mdj needs to send Klay home for conduct detrimental to the team. Or just fire Kerr and bringing in someone who will put Klays entitled ass in check.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#284 » by Onus » Tue Jan 2, 2024 6:08 am

After this Next game against Orlando it will be 40% of the season. It’s time Kerr. You can’t let Klay bring down the whole season
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#285 » by Crazy-Canuck » Tue Jan 2, 2024 6:10 am

Onus wrote:Seriously mdj needs to send Klay home for conduct detrimental to the team. Or just fire Kerr and bringing in someone who will put Klays entitled ass in check.


I dont think he needs to be taken out. He's been great with cp3 vs bench units all year. Even when he goes off, vs other starters, it's generally vs bad teams.

And when he plays well, then he can close. It's his unconditional minutes that's the problem.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#286 » by Onus » Tue Jan 2, 2024 1:49 pm

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Onus wrote:Seriously mdj needs to send Klay home for conduct detrimental to the team. Or just fire Kerr and bringing in someone who will put Klays entitled ass in check.


I dont think he needs to be taken out. He's been great with cp3 vs bench units all year. Even when he goes off, vs other starters, it's generally vs bad teams.

And when he plays well, then he can close. It's his unconditional minutes that's the problem.

Yea that’s true but Kerr isn’t going to do that unless Klay is somehow absent and the team performs better without him.

If he and jk are giving off negative vibes and everyone is talking about it, it gives incentive to just send them home so we Kerr can build a larger sample size and get to the root of the issue rather than this charade of taking everyone else out of the starting lineup.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#287 » by Onus » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:43 pm

I didn't watch the world championships but were the lineups just as whacky then as they are on the warriors? I know there was a lot of chatter about lineups but i didn't actually watch.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#288 » by SpreeChokeJob » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:48 pm

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Gp2 gets it, but kerr keeps doing the opposite.

This team is broken and Kerr is clueless at how to fix it. The dark ages have already begun.

you get 3 guys want to get paid - JK, Moody and Klay...and wiggins who does not care...i dont understand why we are not making trades because clearly nobody is on the same page here


The way I see it JK and Moody should get their chance for promotion. They haven’t got their opportunity to earn, and it will be good incentive for them to follow team goals with the contract as carrot.

I don’t know why Klay is angling for a contract. He must know it’s over, but wants what every veteran want, that last payday. His net worth is listed at 70 million, more than enough if he invests after his career. Sure he can’t get a mega yacht to host a group of instathots, but that’s not the team’s problems. In the old days, the Warriors sent Bogut along his way when he tried to hustle his last contract.

The issue is Klay is old and while he is still good, Curry and Klay can’t play at the same time because it’s a defensive disaster. If Klay could score at the clip he could before they could try to out score their opponent, but that isn’t the case.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#289 » by CDM_Stats » Tue Jan 2, 2024 5:08 pm

JK hasn’t had a chance?? He’s gotten so much undeserved rope that I can only assume it’s a showcase
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#290 » by CDM_Stats » Tue Jan 2, 2024 5:10 pm

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Gp2 gets it, but kerr keeps doing the opposite.


It’s getting way more embarrassing than I thought it could
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#291 » by Onus » Tue Jan 2, 2024 5:58 pm

CDM_Stats wrote:JK hasn’t had a chance?? He’s gotten so much undeserved rope that I can only assume it’s a showcase

I can only assume jk is starting so we can dump him
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#292 » by Onus » Tue Jan 2, 2024 6:32 pm

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Kerr searching for 2 way combinations and he ended up with cp3, curry, klay, jk, tjd. LMAO He's not even trying
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Post#293 » by HiRez » Tue Jan 2, 2024 6:49 pm

Onus wrote:Kerr searching for 2 way combinations and he ended up with cp3, curry, klay, jk, tjd. LMAO He's not even trying

TJD and JK you could say are 2-way players. Now yes, both have various issues there that they need to work on, and they need better consistency, but they both have shown at least the ability to competently work both ends at times. CP3 also, although his age and size will limit his defensive abilities against certain matchups. Steph and Klay are very problematic on defensive this year. In Steph's case, you have to keep him on the floor since his offense is still overall stellar. But Klay isn't compensating for his diminished defense with his shooting any longer. But it's OK since Kerr is going to play Moody for 25-30 minutes a night and once the OG trade goes through, it'll solve all those issues.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#294 » by Sleepy51 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 7:19 pm

Blaming "vibes" for Klay going 1 for 11... lol

Kerr was blaming the lack of dapmasters for the starters choking away games last year too.

The vibes are bad because people in leadership roles have have been bad leaders not the other way around
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Post#295 » by Onus » Tue Jan 2, 2024 7:21 pm

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Onus wrote:Kerr searching for 2 way combinations and he ended up with cp3, curry, klay, jk, tjd. LMAO He's not even trying

TJD and JK you could say are 2-way players. Now yes, both have various issues there that they need to work on, and they need better consistency, but they both have shown at least the ability to competently work both ends at times. CP3 also, although his age and size will limit his defensive abilities against certain matchups. Steph and Klay are very problematic on defensive this year. In Steph's case, you have to keep him on the floor since his offense is still overall stellar. But Klay isn't compensating for his diminished defense with his shooting any longer. But it's OK since Kerr is going to play Moody for 25-30 minutes a night and once the OG trade goes through, it'll solve all those issues.

JK is a very specific 2 way player. He's played much better on offense recently. His defense on the ball has improved to where he's functional. Off ball defense and rebounding though still very much a work in progress.

Same thing with CP3. Defensively he's decent on the ball, he's allowed to foul to play defense on the ball. In rotation, close outs, off ball he's basically a negative and he can't rebound.

These 2 players that you consider as 2 way players are very limited in what they provide defensively.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#296 » by cpower » Tue Jan 2, 2024 7:43 pm

this is what Steve Kerr is trying to work with (per 36):
1. Steph and Podz dont work together, -0.5
2. Steph and Klay dont work together -2.4
3. Steph and Kuminga dont work too -0.5
3. JK and AW really dont work together -18
4. CP3 is saving a lot of the lineups, turning 2 and 3 around. Klay Curry CP3 + 9, Kuminga Curry CP3 + 14

You can see why CP3 is played heavily and he is by far the 2nd best player for us this season. I also dont believe CP3 will be traded he is too important for us right now
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Post#297 » by jozef » Tue Jan 2, 2024 8:01 pm

Steph struggles at SG so he should be moved to the bench. Adding few of fans suggestion into the mix and our starting lineup could be: PG Paul, SG Podziemski, SF Moody, PF Kuminga, C Looney/Saric. Backup lineup is a bit done and washed up: PG Curry, SG Thompson, SF Wiggins, PF Green, C Jackson-Davis.
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Post#298 » by Onus » Tue Jan 2, 2024 8:53 pm

cpower wrote:this is what Steve Kerr is trying to work with (per 36):
1. Steph and Podz dont work together, -0.5
2. Steph and Klay dont work together -2.4
3. Steph and Kuminga dont work too -0.5
3. JK and AW really dont work together -18
4. CP3 is saving a lot of the lineups, turning 2 and 3 around. Klay Curry CP3 + 9, Kuminga Curry CP3 + 14

You can see why CP3 is played heavily and he is by far the 2nd best player for us this season. I also dont believe CP3 will be traded he is too important for us right now

We should just trade steph and build around cp3 huh?
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#299 » by Impuniti » Tue Jan 2, 2024 9:44 pm

cpower wrote:this is what Steve Kerr is trying to work with (per 36):
1. Steph and Podz dont work together, -0.5
2. Steph and Klay dont work together -2.4
3. Steph and Kuminga dont work too -0.5
3. JK and AW really dont work together -18
4. CP3 is saving a lot of the lineups, turning 2 and 3 around. Klay Curry CP3 + 9, Kuminga Curry CP3 + 14

You can see why CP3 is played heavily and he is by far the 2nd best player for us this season. I also dont believe CP3 will be traded he is too important for us right now

CP shouldn't be traded but expiring contracts have a lot of value, and my gut tells me this wannabe elite organization is going to trade 1 big money expiring contract, and it's not going to be Klay.

You know, for loyalty! :lol:
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#300 » by CDM_Stats » Wed Jan 3, 2024 1:14 am

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