Draymond continuing to do stupid Draymond things...How long before he implodes?

[floppymoose]

Draymond saying GSW was not winning as many games last year, but are winning this year. Somewhere at the 5:30 mark

FTFY

There will be a losing streak at some point and then criticizing Kerr's rotations will be en vogue again.

[Old_Blue]

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Draymond saying Kerr was not good at in game adjustments, but has improved. Somewhere at the 5:30 mark

I think Draymond is aspiring to be the NBA's first player/coach/podcaster. Would the League give its blessing to Draymond strapping a GoPro to his ass so that he could live stream while playing/coaching?

[michaelm]

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Draymond saying Kerr was not good at in game adjustments, but has improved. Somewhere at the 5:30 mark

I think Draymond is aspiring to be the NBA's first player/coach/podcaster. Would the League give its blessing to Draymond strapping a GoPro to his ass so that he could live stream while playing/coaching?

He was probably correct though, and it demonstrates he is invested in this season which is a good thing.

[michaelm]

You can spin it all you want, but you know what happened.

There is a difference between stepping on someone by mistake and a stomp and you know it.

Go act clever with someone else mate, for me it's boring.

I’m not saying he didn’t stomp on sabonis. I’m saying sabonis grabbed his foot when he was starting to run and then green stomped on his chest. Very similar to what green did to edey which the nba later gave green a flagrant 1 for. Yes green acted out.

Then we agree.

All i'm saying is Green is viewed and treated differently cause of his antics history, so he should know better.

Yes, and everyone acknowledges it has cost GSW more than a few games and possibly a championship, bogus though the LeBron thing was. If it is all about pride for him allowing himself to be suckered by LeBron into a suspension should have been a bigger personal insult than being tea-bagged by him.

What I dispute on the GB is that Draymond is some sort of psychopath who goes out onto an NBA court to deliberately cause career threatening injuries as several posters there are wont to claim. He doesn’t do so and hasn’t done so, and the Sabonis thing wasn’t an attempt to do so. I needed to see it live to have a strong opinion, I only saw video footage after I had already read several accounts of the incident, but Sabonis was definitely on the floor because of his own actions, a consequence of trying to pull Klay Thompson down iirc, and Green in my view was mainly trying to get free of him to get down the other end of the court as I said. The actual action was a strange bunny hop, he very definitely didn’t stop to gratuitously stomp Sabonis hard just because he had the opportunity. Most Draymond despisers at the time focussed on how much weight on the sternum of Sabonis was involved because it was very obviously not a forceful deliberate stomp by means of which he attempted to injure Sabonis.

[Zvaart]

I’m not saying he didn’t stomp on sabonis. I’m saying sabonis grabbed his foot when he was starting to run and then green stomped on his chest. Very similar to what green did to edey which the nba later gave green a flagrant 1 for. Yes green acted out.

Then we agree.

All i'm saying is Green is viewed and treated differently cause of his antics history, so he should know better.

Yes, and everyone acknowledges it has cost GSW more than a few games and possibly a championship, bogus though the LeBron thing was. If it is all about pride for him allowing himself to be suckered by LeBron into a suspension should have been a bigger personal insult than being tea-bagged by him.

What I dispute on the GB is that Draymond is some sort of psychopath who goes out onto an NBA court to deliberately cause career threatening injuries as several posters there are wont to claim. He doesn’t do so and hasn’t done so, and the Sabonis thing wasn’t an attempt to do so. I needed to see it live to have a strong opinion, I only saw video footage after I had already read several accounts of the incident, but Sabonis was definitely on the floor because of his own actions, a consequence of trying to pull Klay Thompson down iirc, and Green in my view was mainly trying to get free of him to get down the other end of the court as I said. The actual action was a strange bunny hop, he very definitely didn’t stop to gratuitously stomp Sabonis hard just because he had the opportunity. Most Draymond despisers at the time focussed on how much weight on the sternum of Sabonis was involved because it was very obviously not a forceful deliberate stomp by means of which he attempted to injure Sabonis.

I agree with both your points, beside the Sabonis incident. Looking at it back then it seemed to me intentional as hell. The stomp seemed unnecessary to me.
1.He hurt us in several occasions.
and
2.He is not dirty per se. He only reacts when he is provoked or thinks he was done wrong. But then he retaliate sometimes out of proportion and without thinking of consequences. of course he is not a psychopath. But he is a narcissist. His emotional intelligence is the one betraying him.
His last statement seems to confirm it:
“People want to try to deem me as this dumb guy. I’m smarter than you. They want to deem me as this guy who’s out of control. I’m in way better control than you are of yourself."
Just like a toddler.
When you do something wrong, just shut de f. up and let it slide.

[michaelm]

Then we agree.

All i'm saying is Green is viewed and treated differently cause of his antics history, so he should know better.

Yes, and everyone acknowledges it has cost GSW more than a few games and possibly a championship, bogus though the LeBron thing was. If it is all about pride for him allowing himself to be suckered by LeBron into a suspension should have been a bigger personal insult than being tea-bagged by him.

What I dispute on the GB is that Draymond is some sort of psychopath who goes out onto an NBA court to deliberately cause career threatening injuries as several posters there are wont to claim. He doesn’t do so and hasn’t done so, and the Sabonis thing wasn’t an attempt to do so. I needed to see it live to have a strong opinion, I only saw video footage after I had already read several accounts of the incident, but Sabonis was definitely on the floor because of his own actions, a consequence of trying to pull Klay Thompson down iirc, and Green in my view was mainly trying to get free of him to get down the other end of the court as I said. The actual action was a strange bunny hop, he very definitely didn’t stop to gratuitously stomp Sabonis hard just because he had the opportunity. Most Draymond despisers at the time focussed on how much weight on the sternum of Sabonis was involved because it was very obviously not a forceful deliberate stomp by means of which he attempted to injure Sabonis.

I agree with both your points, beside the Sabonis incident. Looking at it back then it seemed to me intentional as hell. The stomp seemed unnecessary to me.
1.He hurt us in several occasions.
and
2.He is not dirty per se. He only reacts when he is provoked or thinks he was done wrong. But then he retaliate sometimes out of proportion and without thinking of consequences. of course he is not a psychopath. But he is a narcissist. His emotional intelligence is the one betraying him.
His last statement seems to confirm it:
“People want to try to deem me as this dumb guy. I’m smarter than you. They want to deem me as this guy who’s out of control. I’m in way better control than you are of yourself."
Just like a toddler.
When you do something wrong, just shut de f. up and let it slide.

We largely agree then, he has this strange code or mindset that he has to pay back any slight or wrong he sees as having been done to him, and will do so regardless of cost to himself or his team and in ways which are at least perceived as disproportionate. He doesn't do stuff like the Brooks hit on GP2, or any number of players including Toronto's Green on Klay Thompson in the 2019 finals or even Lebron himself on James Wiseman in his rookie year, recklessly or carelessly taking out people in the air which is what leads to serious knee injuries and the like.

[brandon87]

But he is a narcissist. His emotional intelligence is the one betraying him.
His last statement seems to confirm it:
“People want to try to deem me as this dumb guy. I’m smarter than you. They want to deem me as this guy who’s out of control. I’m in way better control than you are of yourself."
Just like a toddler.
When you do something wrong, just shut de f. up and let it slide.

It’s Trumpian.

[whatisacenter]

It’s Trumpian.

I can't listen to either one of them speak.