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Game 38: Dubs (19-18) @ Pacers (20-18), 01/10, 4:00 pm

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Re: Game 38: Dubs (19-18) @ Pacers (20-18), 01/10, 4:00 pm 

Post#41 » by Onus » Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:28 pm

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HiRez wrote:Warriors are #16 in 3P% and you say OK, that's not as bad as I felt it is. Problem is they're also #4 in 3 point attempts. They keep relying on this mantra that 3 pointers are worth more and are a more efficient way to score than getting points in the paint, but when you take a ton of them with mediocre efficiency it turns out it's not a good way to win games.

They have the worst percentage on layups and fts and you want to what take more layups and fts?

I still think you gotta pull people off the 3 point line by going inside, even if they're smoking layups that's still creating a little more space, which should help create cleaner shots from deep. But really I just want them to get better players. If they aren't doing a full rebuild, then at least everyone except Steph should be on the table. Yes, that includes Draymond, and Wiggins, and everyone else. This team sucks and they need a full reset. Start with a Steph-Zion core, and a head coach who isn't allergic to running pick and rolls.

We really need a stretch big or a big that actually has some usefulness other than screening on the roster. Teams can literally guard the paint with 1 big and shut down both our of 4 and 5 positions on multiple possessions in the paint. Our guards and wings continually get met at the rim because no one has to guard our bigs. Then we don't play our only real shooters together (Steph and Buddy) to open up the paint since those 2 are the only ones that defenders won't leave. When they play together we get uncontested layups and dunks, but why would we want that when we can play Schroeder who teams don't have to guard at the 3 just making drives even more congested.

Yes in theory driving should open up 3s, but we don't really have anyone that can drive and score efficiently at the rim that forces teams to actually leave our non shooters even more open shots. Teams literally just let Draymond shoot, they're barely closing out to him again. So you can clog up any driving lanes with his defender. Then you have TJD or Looney whom aren't shooting anything other than layups or dunks and they struggle to do one or the other. Schroeder isn't finishing over his man and a shot blocker and Dray's defender. JK can finish so he's been valuable but he can't really create his own shot well and you don't really have to build a wall the way you have to against zion/giannis.

I agree Zion is the only one available that can change the way defenses play us(that's reasonably gettable, Cam probably going to cost more so may as well get Zion).
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Re: Game 38: Dubs (19-18) @ Pacers (20-18), 01/10, 4:00 pm 

Post#42 » by HiRez » Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:03 pm

Did anyone hear Pat Spencer in the post-game press comments? I've never heard him talk before. He's really sharp, dude talks like a head coach.
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Re: Game 38: Dubs (19-18) @ Pacers (20-18), 01/10, 4:00 pm 

Post#43 » by whatisacenter » Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:44 pm

HiRez wrote:Did anyone hear Pat Spencer in the post-game press comments? I've never heard him talk before. He's really sharp, dude talks like a head coach.


I would be more than willing to put Podz in a trade package and convert Spencer to a minimum contract.
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Re: Game 38: Dubs (19-18) @ Pacers (20-18), 01/10, 4:00 pm 

Post#44 » by thunderdunk » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:12 am

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HiRez wrote:Did anyone hear Pat Spencer in the post-game press comments? I've never heard him talk before. He's really sharp, dude talks like a head coach.


I would be more than willing to put Podz in a trade package and convert Spencer to a minimum contract.

...and I would be more than willing to package ANY of these guys not named Steph if it will improve the team. You maybe have to keep Draymond as well -- he's so core to the defense and feeding Steph. Everyone else on the roster should be available for the right trade. What they have clearly isn't enough. They need fewer, better pieces. Needs to be done soon. The new guy(s) need to learn to execute the playbook before the POs start. -- both sides of the ball.
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Re: Game 38: Dubs (19-18) @ Pacers (20-18), 01/10, 4:00 pm 

Post#45 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:48 am

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whatisacenter wrote:
HiRez wrote:Did anyone hear Pat Spencer in the post-game press comments? I've never heard him talk before. He's really sharp, dude talks like a head coach.


I would be more than willing to put Podz in a trade package and convert Spencer to a minimum contract.

...and I would be more than willing to package ANY of these guys not named Steph if it will improve the team. You maybe have to keep Draymond as well -- he's so core to the defense and feeding Steph. Everyone else on the roster should be available for the right trade. What they have clearly isn't enough. They need fewer, better pieces. Needs to be done soon. The new guy(s) need to learn to execute the playbook before the POs start. -- both sides of the ball.


If you exclude steph and dray, that's almost 80M of the 140M hard cap.

Wiggs makes 26M. How many players can do what he does on this club at the salary while being a clear upgrade?

Outside of wiggins, we have a bunch of smaller deals while hugging the hard cap.

Best hope was for Kerr to figure it out and he hasn't.

Lack of talent is just the simplest excuse. Without talent, you pivot to fit which we know works (2022 being the most recent example). Kerr just hasn't done that for whatever reason.

The suns are worse than we are and they went for talent with no regard to fit. The 6ers are in the same boat. Both teams have top 3 options better than us.
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Re: Game 38: Dubs (19-18) @ Pacers (20-18), 01/10, 4:00 pm 

Post#46 » by CDM_Stats » Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:48 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
HiRez wrote:Did anyone hear Pat Spencer in the post-game press comments? I've never heard him talk before. He's really sharp, dude talks like a head coach.


I would be more than willing to put Podz in a trade package and convert Spencer to a minimum contract.


Podz was doing much, much better ever since the Schroder trade that didnt make him the primary backup PG anymore

That said, his style is at odds w/Schroders, at least so far in his career. Schroder needs the PnR spammed, Podz relies mostly on motion to get open and to beat anyone off the dribble. If Podz' spot-up game gets better though, it could work. But its all theoretical as the Warriors still force the motion with the reserves, and guys like Schroder and JK wont be their best versions until that stops. Only Podz and maybe Looney, if he's a bench guy, profile as good motion players among the likely bench. Hield too, I guess

But a big part of why I'd want Hield and Looney to start is because it draws a clear line in the sand - these guys are the motion guys, these guys are the halfcourt guys
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Re: Game 38: Dubs (19-18) @ Pacers (20-18), 01/10, 4:00 pm 

Post#47 » by CDM_Stats » Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:50 pm

A backup unit of Schroder/Podz/(Lindy/Moody/GP2)/JK/Post, on paper, is something really worth looking at. If Post can hold his own defensively at all, its a nicely balanced backup unit of cutters and shooters. Especially since Post actually sets screens, unlikely TJD's shove-screens, and that opens up Schroder's inside vision and/or JK's downhill vision

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