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Could the Warriors have gotten 3 1st Rounders for 1?

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Re: Could the Warriors have gotten 3 1st Rounders for 1? 

Post#41 » by Coxy » Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:50 pm

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Romulus wrote:Almost anyone on here could do so little to improve the team as Dunleavy and Lacob.

They're frauds and fakes. They're disgusting.


:rofl2:

No, no they couldn't. That pesky thing called 'real life' gets in the way of your theory. Most people couldn't make even a junior executive position in a professional NBA sports franchise, let alone be the GM or owner. Get a grip, the adults in the room are doing their best. If you think you can do better, get your CV together.


just another in a line of dumpster tier posts. i miss when you mostly just memed


I'm always surprised when I see posts of yours these days. I thought an NBA team would have snapped you up by now, with all of your amazing guru-like insights on this internet board.

Meh, who needs real life anyway, as long as the internet knows your brilliance, that's enough for sure.
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Re: Could the Warriors have gotten 3 1st Rounders for 1? 

Post#42 » by Jester_ » Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:09 pm

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:rofl2:

No, no they couldn't. That pesky thing called 'real life' gets in the way of your theory. Most people couldn't make even a junior executive position in a professional NBA sports franchise, let alone be the GM or owner. Get a grip, the adults in the room are doing their best. If you think you can do better, get your CV together.


just another in a line of dumpster tier posts. i miss when you mostly just memed


I'm always surprised when I see posts of yours these days. I thought an NBA team would have snapped you up by now, with all of your amazing guru-like insights on this internet board.

Meh, who needs real life anyway, as long as the internet knows your brilliance, that's enough for sure.


Nah, I readily admit when I'm a dumbass

You're the weirdo who admits he doesn't watch games but for some reason pops in here every few weeks to give the FO a drive-by handy
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Re: Could the Warriors have gotten 3 1st Rounders for 1? 

Post#43 » by Twinkie defense » Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:26 am

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Remember when Ainge swung for the fences and traded out of the 1st pick to draft Tatum? Remember when we swung for the fences and chucked our all star guard away for a perennially injured center in Milwaukee?

you're being intentionally dense

Andrew Bogut? :lol: That was one of the best trades in the modern era of Warriors basketball - and notably, this was a pre-Bob Myers trade :nod:

Of course in neither of those did Celtics or Warriors send out multiple first-round picks for aging players.


yes the point is it was considered a swing. like i said quite moving goalposts and being deliberately obtuse

you don't win jack without taking swings.

This discussion is in the context of teams sending out a bunch of picks for older players - Suns and Jimmy Butler, Nets and Paul Pierce and KG. And people justifying those kinds of trades by saying you need to swing for the fences. The Tatum and Bogut trades are nothing like the trades being discussed in this thread :dontknow:
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Re: Could the Warriors have gotten 3 1st Rounders for 1? 

Post#44 » by Jester_ » Fri Jan 24, 2025 1:33 am

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Twinkie defense wrote:Andrew Bogut? :lol: That was one of the best trades in the modern era of Warriors basketball - and notably, this was a pre-Bob Myers trade :nod:

Of course in neither of those did Celtics or Warriors send out multiple first-round picks for aging players.


yes the point is it was considered a swing. like i said quite moving goalposts and being deliberately obtuse

you don't win jack without taking swings.

This discussion is in the context of teams sending out a bunch of picks for older players - Suns and Jimmy Butler, Nets and Paul Pierce and KG. And people justifying those kinds of trades by saying you need to swing for the fences. The Tatum and Bogut trades are nothing like the trades being discussed in this thread :dontknow:


OK if you want the exact

Raptors traded 1st round pick, franchise superstar and the guy they picked 9th overall a year earlier for a 1 year rental of Kawhi and won a chip with it

Lakers threw their entire youth and multiple first round picks and pick swaps to get AD and won a chip the next year

Bucks gave THREE first round picks and 2 pick swaps for Jrue Holiday and then won a ring the next year

besides, who's advocating for Jimmy Butler here? pretty sure most people are against getting Jimmy. We DO want to trade for someone like Zion even if it means "mortgaging" our future whatever that even means
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Re: Could the Warriors have gotten 3 1st Rounders for 1? 

Post#45 » by GQ Hot Dog » Fri Jan 24, 2025 1:49 am

Jester_ wrote:besides, who's advocating for Jimmy Butler here? pretty sure most people are against getting Jimmy. We DO want to trade for someone like Zion even if it means "mortgaging" our future whatever that even means


Is that a serious comment? You want to trade for Zion? What would you be willing to give up for him?
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Re: Could the Warriors have gotten 3 1st Rounders for 1? 

Post#46 » by Jester_ » Fri Jan 24, 2025 1:57 am

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Jester_ wrote:besides, who's advocating for Jimmy Butler here? pretty sure most people are against getting Jimmy. We DO want to trade for someone like Zion even if it means "mortgaging" our future whatever that even means


Is that a serious comment? You want to trade for Zion? What would you be willing to give up for him?



Yes many people here do.
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Re: Could the Warriors have gotten 3 1st Rounders for 1? 

Post#47 » by GQ Hot Dog » Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:00 am

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Jester_ wrote:besides, who's advocating for Jimmy Butler here? pretty sure most people are against getting Jimmy. We DO want to trade for someone like Zion even if it means "mortgaging" our future whatever that even means


Is that a serious comment? You want to trade for Zion? What would you be willing to give up for him?



Yes many people here do.

That sheds some light on some of the headscratching takes people pony up here. Coxy is right. Dunleavy and the rest of the brain trust are light years ahead...of the fanbase at least.
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Re: Could the Warriors have gotten 3 1st Rounders for 1? 

Post#48 » by Twinkie defense » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:22 am

Jester_ wrote:Raptors traded 1st round pick, franchise superstar and the guy they picked 9th overall a year earlier for a 1 year rental of Kawhi and won a chip with it

Lakers threw their entire youth and multiple first round picks and pick swaps to get AD and won a chip the next year

Bucks gave THREE first round picks and 2 pick swaps for Jrue Holiday and then won a ring the next year

besides, who's advocating for Jimmy Butler here? pretty sure most people are against getting Jimmy. We DO want to trade for someone like Zion even if it means "mortgaging" our future whatever that even means

Kawhi and AD were in their 20s.

IDK what else was involved but by itself, 3 1st round picks + 2 pick swaps is an overpay for Jrue.

If Warriors can trade for a 20-something superstar - say for example Shai Gilgeous-Alexander - they should absolutely send out a boatload of picks.
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Re: Could the Warriors have gotten 3 1st Rounders for 1? 

Post#49 » by Jester_ » Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:49 am

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Is that a serious comment? You want to trade for Zion? What would you be willing to give up for him?



Yes many people here do.

That sheds some light on some of the headscratching takes people pony up here. Coxy is right. Dunleavy and the rest of the brain trust are light years ahead...of the fanbase at least.


done more with the least talent available of any FO in the history of the game. :lol:
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Re: Could the Warriors have gotten 3 1st Rounders for 1? 

Post#50 » by Jester_ » Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:58 am

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Jester_ wrote:Raptors traded 1st round pick, franchise superstar and the guy they picked 9th overall a year earlier for a 1 year rental of Kawhi and won a chip with it

Lakers threw their entire youth and multiple first round picks and pick swaps to get AD and won a chip the next year

Bucks gave THREE first round picks and 2 pick swaps for Jrue Holiday and then won a ring the next year

besides, who's advocating for Jimmy Butler here? pretty sure most people are against getting Jimmy. We DO want to trade for someone like Zion even if it means "mortgaging" our future whatever that even means

Kawhi and AD were in their 20s.

IDK what else was involved but by itself, 3 1st round picks + 2 pick swaps is an overpay for Jrue.

If Warriors can trade for a 20-something superstar - say for example Shai Gilgeous-Alexander - they should absolutely send out a boatload of picks.


It clearly wasn't an overpay because they won a championship out of it

KG was 32 when he went to Boston. Shaq was 32 when he went to Miami.

Clyde was 34 when the Rockets threw young players and picks to grab him and won a ring with him.

your entire decision framework doesn't make sense. age is irrelevant, the question is whether or not you have a shot at a championship. the problem with Jimmy is making up the salary, if you brought him on without having to give up a bunch of current talent he'd immediately make us a championship team
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