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Game 49: 2/3 Magic (24-26) @ Warriors (24-24) 7pm PST

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Re: Game 49: 2/3 Magic (24-26) @ Warriors (24-24) 7pm PST 

Post#81 » by TB » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:12 am

EvanZ wrote:Have we ever seen this lineup? I doubt it


Guessing we are all talking about that Steph, Wiggins, Moody, Dray, Loon lineup (writing it that way because I think Kerr sees wiggins as the 2 in that situation).

Had to go back and check since its something we all have been wanting:

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Re: Game 49: 2/3 Magic (24-26) @ Warriors (24-24) 7pm PST 

Post#82 » by watch1958 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:17 am

EvanZ wrote:The best unit I’ve seen in years lol

Curry Green Wiggins Looney Moody down the stretch.

Kerr hits a lineup that no one else would have thought of,
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Re: Game 49: 2/3 Magic (24-26) @ Warriors (24-24) 7pm PST 

Post#83 » by DAWill1128 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:26 am

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DAWill1128 wrote:Team is a 2nd scoring option away from contending. They have guys can who can play great defense and Steph always attracts a ton of attention which makes it easier for others.

Franz kinda reminds me of Kukoc, he is just a big guy who is a really great free flowing player. He can dribble, pass, move well. Certain guys just have a great team ball feel like Bogut and even guys like Looney and GP2 have. If we had held onto Poole having him and Franz running a two man game when Steph and Dray sub out would have been amazing. Pooles 3 level scoring quickness with Franz size and understanding of pace. He is a tough matchup, so many posessions where a small ends up on him and he backs down a couple dribbles and has this huge size mismatch. Banchero is a truckload to deal with as a big power forward, but Franz creates these mismatches.


Yes, but how does trading wiggins for that no.2 make us that much better since we will need to attach assets to make up any salary difference?


The problem is you probably really need four great players and with the way we've managed contracts and the draft we can only have three with Steph, Wiggins, and Dray. I don't think OKC is this juggernaut but the Celtics with Tatum, Brown, Holiday, Porzingis is really tough.
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Re: Game 49: 2/3 Magic (24-26) @ Warriors (24-24) 7pm PST 

Post#84 » by RUN-TJM » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:56 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:Team is a 2nd scoring option away from contending. They have guys can who can play great defense and Steph always attracts a ton of attention which makes it easier for others.

Franz kinda reminds me of Kukoc, he is just a big guy who is a really great free flowing player. He can dribble, pass, move well. Certain guys just have a great team ball feel like Bogut and even guys like Looney and GP2 have. If we had held onto Poole having him and Franz running a two man game when Steph and Dray sub out would have been amazing. Pooles 3 level scoring quickness with Franz size and understanding of pace. He is a tough matchup, so many posessions where a small ends up on him and he backs down a couple dribbles and has this huge size mismatch. Banchero is a truckload to deal with as a big power forward, but Franz creates these mismatches.


Yes, but how does trading wiggins for that no.2 make us that much better since we will need to attach assets to make up any salary difference?

I’m not a MDJ fan but you’ve just described his biggest issue. Our depth is extremely poor. If we go for a trade for a big time scorer, we’ll be in the same predicament. No depth beyond our top 2 scorers.
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Re: Game 49: 2/3 Magic (24-26) @ Warriors (24-24) 7pm PST 

Post#85 » by DonaldSanders » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:01 am

So this is what it is like to be the Lakers! Wow that FT line.

Big Moses game, you love to see it. Post with a strong game as well -- it's time for the young guys to shine! And of course Wiggins was the player of the game.
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Re: Game 49: 2/3 Magic (24-26) @ Warriors (24-24) 7pm PST 

Post#86 » by floppymoose » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:09 am

Steph my all time fav; but he stank. Full on hero-ball most of the game. Finally with 1:07 remaining he made the right play, leading to the Moody 3 that put GS in control.
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Post#87 » by Crazy-Canuck » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:10 am

This could have been the last home game for wiggins, loon, and gp2.
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Post#88 » by Onus » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:16 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Weve had talks about zion, wow. Make it happen mjd.

Did they say this on the broadcast?
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Post#89 » by Onus » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:17 am

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Crazy-Canuck wrote:If this is our starting unit and IF IF post and buddy can hit shots, we might actually have something. Especially if jk can come back and be that 6th man weapon.

That’s a massive IF re Buddy. He is a shell of the player from the first month.

We just need someone that can hit some 3s. It really doesn’t matter who it is.
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Post#90 » by Crazy-Canuck » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:19 am

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Crazy-Canuck wrote:Weve had talks about zion, wow. Make it happen mjd.

Did they say this on the broadcast?


It was reported that the Warriors have talked in house about zion and Ingram to see what it would take.
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Post#91 » by floppymoose » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:20 am

Buddy is exactly the player he was in the first month. Except for the shooting. But i’ve liked the rest of his game all year long.

This is a tank year anyway so at least his slump came at the right time.
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Post#92 » by whatisacenter » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:22 am

Decent win against a young team. Orlando is mid and Franz's 3pt shot is UGLY.
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Post#93 » by Onus » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:30 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Onus wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Weve had talks about zion, wow. Make it happen mjd.

Did they say this on the broadcast?


It was reported that the Warriors have talked in house about zion and Ingram to see what it would take.

That’s good at least it should be an option. He’s by far the best option of available players.
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Post#94 » by superunknown » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:42 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:Team is a 2nd scoring option away from contending. They have guys can who can play great defense and Steph always attracts a ton of attention which makes it easier for others.

Franz kinda reminds me of Kukoc, he is just a big guy who is a really great free flowing player. He can dribble, pass, move well. Certain guys just have a great team ball feel like Bogut and even guys like Looney and GP2 have. If we had held onto Poole having him and Franz running a two man game when Steph and Dray sub out would have been amazing. Pooles 3 level scoring quickness with Franz size and understanding of pace. He is a tough matchup, so many posessions where a small ends up on him and he backs down a couple dribbles and has this huge size mismatch. Banchero is a truckload to deal with as a big power forward, but Franz creates these mismatches.


Yes, but how does trading wiggins for that no.2 make us that much better since we will need to attach assets to make up any salary difference?


why need to trade wiggins for that? dubs have something like 55M between KA, hield, schroder, GPII, Looney (not that I'm advocating trading these last 2 but just to say), and kuminga they can use.
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Post#95 » by Onus » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:43 am

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Crazy-Canuck wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:Team is a 2nd scoring option away from contending. They have guys can who can play great defense and Steph always attracts a ton of attention which makes it easier for others.

Franz kinda reminds me of Kukoc, he is just a big guy who is a really great free flowing player. He can dribble, pass, move well. Certain guys just have a great team ball feel like Bogut and even guys like Looney and GP2 have. If we had held onto Poole having him and Franz running a two man game when Steph and Dray sub out would have been amazing. Pooles 3 level scoring quickness with Franz size and understanding of pace. He is a tough matchup, so many posessions where a small ends up on him and he backs down a couple dribbles and has this huge size mismatch. Banchero is a truckload to deal with as a big power forward, but Franz creates these mismatches.


Yes, but how does trading wiggins for that no.2 make us that much better since we will need to attach assets to make up any salary difference?


why need to trade wiggins for that? dubs have something like 55M between KA, hield, schroder, GPII, Looney (not that I'm advocating trading these last 2 but just to say), and kuminga they can use.


Of those 5 all we really need to keep is looney.
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Re: Game 49: 2/3 Magic (24-26) @ Warriors (24-24) 7pm PST 

Post#96 » by superunknown » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:46 am

RUN-TJM wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:Team is a 2nd scoring option away from contending. They have guys can who can play great defense and Steph always attracts a ton of attention which makes it easier for others.

Franz kinda reminds me of Kukoc, he is just a big guy who is a really great free flowing player. He can dribble, pass, move well. Certain guys just have a great team ball feel like Bogut and even guys like Looney and GP2 have. If we had held onto Poole having him and Franz running a two man game when Steph and Dray sub out would have been amazing. Pooles 3 level scoring quickness with Franz size and understanding of pace. He is a tough matchup, so many posessions where a small ends up on him and he backs down a couple dribbles and has this huge size mismatch. Banchero is a truckload to deal with as a big power forward, but Franz creates these mismatches.


Yes, but how does trading wiggins for that no.2 make us that much better since we will need to attach assets to make up any salary difference?

I’m not a MDJ fan but you’ve just described his biggest issue. Our depth is extremely poor. If we go for a trade for a big time scorer, we’ll be in the same predicament. No depth beyond our top 2 scorers.


not true, you'd still have some depth. podz (he seems improving lately), moody (who can score), post (need more reps, but he can score), santos, waters, maybe kuminga plus whoever else is left after trades from the bench. that's your depth. not the best in the world but you gotta compromise somewhere somehow to add some value to this roster.
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Re: Game 49: 2/3 Magic (24-26) @ Warriors (24-24) 7pm PST 

Post#97 » by EvanZ » Tue Feb 4, 2025 10:59 am

superunknown wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:Team is a 2nd scoring option away from contending. They have guys can who can play great defense and Steph always attracts a ton of attention which makes it easier for others.

Franz kinda reminds me of Kukoc, he is just a big guy who is a really great free flowing player. He can dribble, pass, move well. Certain guys just have a great team ball feel like Bogut and even guys like Looney and GP2 have. If we had held onto Poole having him and Franz running a two man game when Steph and Dray sub out would have been amazing. Pooles 3 level scoring quickness with Franz size and understanding of pace. He is a tough matchup, so many posessions where a small ends up on him and he backs down a couple dribbles and has this huge size mismatch. Banchero is a truckload to deal with as a big power forward, but Franz creates these mismatches.


Yes, but how does trading wiggins for that no.2 make us that much better since we will need to attach assets to make up any salary difference?


why need to trade wiggins for that? dubs have something like 55M between KA, hield, schroder, GPII, Looney (not that I'm advocating trading these last 2 but just to say), and kuminga they can use.


It’s very hard to trade five contracts. Would certainly need to involve three or maybe even four teams.
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Re: Game 49: 2/3 Magic (24-26) @ Warriors (24-24) 7pm PST 

Post#98 » by ILOVEIT » Tue Feb 4, 2025 11:11 pm

Analyzing the pluses and minuses of last nights win is like picking through garbage for something to eat.
That was awful...AWFUL hoops and it took Moody - a guy Kerr has refused to give minutes - to save their sorry asses.
WTF is wrong with Curry. He's either just turned 40 or is completely depressed over a coming trade :(

I can only hope it involves Draymond . . . :nod:
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